Knicks · R.J. Barrett vs. Kobe Bryant (1st 4 Years of NBA Play). (page 2)
joec32033 wrote:How about this one?19-22 RJ to a 21-24 Pierce
https://stathead.com/tiny/8K8yYHere is 19-22 RJ to 19-22 Wiggins
https://stathead.com/tiny/HFtBj
Here's Ingram....same ages
https://stathead.com/tiny/a3DFgPaul George from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/h8DFUKawai from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/TS22m
The Kawaii, George and Pierce comparisons start falling apart once you dive deeper into the advanced stats. You want to say Wiggins, that's fair. Ingram is close too. But again, I'd say Ingram is probably unrealistic due to the difference in physical tools between the two. Demar DeRozan is probably the best comparison I've seen for making the case toward RJ's path toward stardom. But even then, you have to consider that DeRozan came into the league as a better athlete.
joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a fair comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
I have no problem since RJ did have a lot more developmental minutes in the NBA the LeVert. Yeah, it's not a straight apples to apples comparison, but it's a lot closer than a Kobe comparison. Wouldn't you agree?
BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:How about this one?19-22 RJ to a 21-24 Pierce
https://stathead.com/tiny/8K8yYHere is 19-22 RJ to 19-22 Wiggins
https://stathead.com/tiny/HFtBj
Here's Ingram....same ages
https://stathead.com/tiny/a3DFgPaul George from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/h8DFUKawai from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/TS22mThe Kawaii, George and Pierce comparisons start falling apart once you dive deeper into the advanced stats. You want to say Wiggins, that's fair. Ingram is close too. But again, I'd say Ingram is probably unrealistic due to the difference in physical tools between the two. Demar DeRozan is probably the best comparison I've seen for making the case toward RJ's path toward stardom. But even then, you have to consider that DeRozan came into the league as a better athlete.
So now we get to pick and choose which stats we follow?
But comparing a 22 year old who came in the league at 19 to a 25 year-old who came into the league at 22 is ok though?
BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a fair comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
I have no problem since RJ did have a lot more developmental minutes in the NBA the LeVert. Yeah, it's not a straight apples to apples comparison, but it's a lot closer than a Kobe comparison. Wouldn't you agree?
No. I think IF you are going to use this type of comparison, you need to be equal as possible. Ages, time in the league, physical development....that all matters. Comparing a 22 year old to a 25 year old in this league like comparing a 20 year old to a 40 year old in real life.
I think comparisons are dumb because players develop different, team usage is different. I can look at a guyvand say he reminds me of this guy style wise or body type wise....but to try a predict the development of a player based on the development of another player is useless to me.
None of the players I put up will have any effect on how RJ develops. You could put up anyone in that type of comparison and make any point you want.
joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:How about this one?19-22 RJ to a 21-24 Pierce
https://stathead.com/tiny/8K8yYHere is 19-22 RJ to 19-22 Wiggins
https://stathead.com/tiny/HFtBj
Here's Ingram....same ages
https://stathead.com/tiny/a3DFgPaul George from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/h8DFUKawai from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/TS22mThe Kawaii, George and Pierce comparisons start falling apart once you dive deeper into the advanced stats. You want to say Wiggins, that's fair. Ingram is close too. But again, I'd say Ingram is probably unrealistic due to the difference in physical tools between the two. Demar DeRozan is probably the best comparison I've seen for making the case toward RJ's path toward stardom. But even then, you have to consider that DeRozan came into the league as a better athlete.
So now we get to pick and choose which stats we follow?
But comparing a 22 year old who came in the league at 19 to a 25 year-old who came into the league at 22 is ok though?
No, but I think most fans have become sophisticated that raw stats alone aren't enough to determine actual production on the court. Yes, they do carry some importance, but not as much weight as you want to place on them. I did acknowledge that LeVert was older, but I also countered that RJ did also have more developmental minutes early on. You have to have a more a nuanced look at these numbers, not just cherry pick whatever stats fit your narrative. That's how you come up with out there Kobe comparisons.
BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:How about this one?19-22 RJ to a 21-24 Pierce
https://stathead.com/tiny/8K8yYHere is 19-22 RJ to 19-22 Wiggins
https://stathead.com/tiny/HFtBj
Here's Ingram....same ages
https://stathead.com/tiny/a3DFgPaul George from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/h8DFUKawai from 20-23
https://stathead.com/tiny/TS22mThe Kawaii, George and Pierce comparisons start falling apart once you dive deeper into the advanced stats. You want to say Wiggins, that's fair. Ingram is close too. But again, I'd say Ingram is probably unrealistic due to the difference in physical tools between the two. Demar DeRozan is probably the best comparison I've seen for making the case toward RJ's path toward stardom. But even then, you have to consider that DeRozan came into the league as a better athlete.
So now we get to pick and choose which stats we follow?
But comparing a 22 year old who came in the league at 19 to a 25 year-old who came into the league at 22 is ok though?
No, but I think most fans have become sophisticated that raw stats alone aren't enough to determine actual production on the court. Yes, they do carry some importance, but not as much weight as you want to place on them. I did acknowledge that LeVert was older, but I also countered that RJ did also have more developmental minutes early on. You have to have a more a nuanced look at these numbers, not just cherry pick whatever stats fit your narrative. That's how you come up with out there Kobe comparisons.
I guess I just disagree with the reliance on the numbers. There might be an advanced shooting metric, or some PER 38 or 40 or 36 to try to even stuff out, but numbers are always secondary to me to what I see.
And I'm the first to admit I'm not always 100% right....although I should be.
joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a fair comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
I have no problem since RJ did have a lot more developmental minutes in the NBA the LeVert. Yeah, it's not a straight apples to apples comparison, but it's a lot closer than a Kobe comparison. Wouldn't you agree?
No. I think IF you are going to use this type of comparison, you need to be equal as possible. Ages, time in the league, physical development....that all matters. Comparing a 22 year old to a 25 year old in this league like comparing a 20 year old to a 40 year old in real life.
I think comparisons are dumb because players develop different, team usage is different. I can look at a guyvand say he reminds me of this guy style wise or body type wise....but to try a predict the development of a player based on the development of another player is useless to me.
None of the players I put up will have any effect on how RJ develops. You could put up anyone in that type of comparison and make any point you want.
No. There's a huge difference. Yes, Levert was older, but he had a lot injuries earlier on in his college career and his early NBA years. This also plays into development and I will say that RJ has an edge there. In fact, RJs durability and ability to eat up a lot of minutes is one of his strengths.
You may have a point about comparisons. But the fact remains that every NBA franchise uses some sort of comparison model to make decisions on the draft, free agency etc. And they're a lot more advanced than what we're doing here. You can ignore them if you want, but it's the direction the league is heading.
BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a fair comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
I have no problem since RJ did have a lot more developmental minutes in the NBA the LeVert. Yeah, it's not a straight apples to apples comparison, but it's a lot closer than a Kobe comparison. Wouldn't you agree?
No. I think IF you are going to use this type of comparison, you need to be equal as possible. Ages, time in the league, physical development....that all matters. Comparing a 22 year old to a 25 year old in this league like comparing a 20 year old to a 40 year old in real life.
I think comparisons are dumb because players develop different, team usage is different. I can look at a guyvand say he reminds me of this guy style wise or body type wise....but to try a predict the development of a player based on the development of another player is useless to me.
None of the players I put up will have any effect on how RJ develops. You could put up anyone in that type of comparison and make any point you want.
No. There's a huge difference. Yes, Levert was older, but he had a lot injuries earlier on in his college career and his early NBA years. This also plays into development and I will say that RJ has an edge there. In fact, RJs durability and ability to eat up a lot of minutes is one of his strengths.
You may have a point about comparisons. But the fact remains that every NBA franchise uses some sort of comparison model to make decisions on the draft, free agency etc. And they're a lot more advanced than what we're doing here. You can ignore them if you want, but it's the direction the league is heading.
Yea...but never to correlate a player's development to another player's development.
fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmc
I'll agree to disagree.
Because R.J. Barrett is in a league of his own alongside the likes of only Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, LeBron James, Tracy McGrady, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant and Luka Doncic in regards to POINTS/REBOUNDS/ASSISTS @ the age of only 22.
Don't believe me?
Research and look it up.
It's true.
joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a fair comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
I have no problem since RJ did have a lot more developmental minutes in the NBA the LeVert. Yeah, it's not a straight apples to apples comparison, but it's a lot closer than a Kobe comparison. Wouldn't you agree?
No. I think IF you are going to use this type of comparison, you need to be equal as possible. Ages, time in the league, physical development....that all matters. Comparing a 22 year old to a 25 year old in this league like comparing a 20 year old to a 40 year old in real life.
I think comparisons are dumb because players develop different, team usage is different. I can look at a guyvand say he reminds me of this guy style wise or body type wise....but to try a predict the development of a player based on the development of another player is useless to me.
None of the players I put up will have any effect on how RJ develops. You could put up anyone in that type of comparison and make any point you want.
No. There's a huge difference. Yes, Levert was older, but he had a lot injuries earlier on in his college career and his early NBA years. This also plays into development and I will say that RJ has an edge there. In fact, RJs durability and ability to eat up a lot of minutes is one of his strengths.
You may have a point about comparisons. But the fact remains that every NBA franchise uses some sort of comparison model to make decisions on the draft, free agency etc. And they're a lot more advanced than what we're doing here. You can ignore them if you want, but it's the direction the league is heading.Yea...but never to correlate a player's development to another player's development.
Yeah, but a large enough sample size has been built up over the years to allow teams to make pretty good guesses. Is it perfect? Ask the Golden State Warriors how that Wiseman pick is working out.
4,358 Points. ✔️
1,339 Rebounds. ✔️
692 Assists.
Caris LeVert 1st 4 Years (@ a much older age).
2,715 Points.
788 Rebounds.
764 Assists✔️
You can make all the excuses in the world for LeVert but RJ's 1st 4 years are 10x more closer to Kobe Bryant's 1st 4 years than that of "Caris LeVert's".
joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a far comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
they are similar players in terms of stats and impact... more impact. Comparing RJ/Kobe is.... well it's Friday so I'll be nice.
RJ has been the same player for the last 3 years. Literally what's he better at since his sophomore/rookie season? (and I like him)
BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a fair comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
I have no problem since RJ did have a lot more developmental minutes in the NBA the LeVert. Yeah, it's not a straight apples to apples comparison, but it's a lot closer than a Kobe comparison. Wouldn't you agree?
No. I think IF you are going to use this type of comparison, you need to be equal as possible. Ages, time in the league, physical development....that all matters. Comparing a 22 year old to a 25 year old in this league like comparing a 20 year old to a 40 year old in real life.
I think comparisons are dumb because players develop different, team usage is different. I can look at a guyvand say he reminds me of this guy style wise or body type wise....but to try a predict the development of a player based on the development of another player is useless to me.
None of the players I put up will have any effect on how RJ develops. You could put up anyone in that type of comparison and make any point you want.
No. There's a huge difference. Yes, Levert was older, but he had a lot injuries earlier on in his college career and his early NBA years. This also plays into development and I will say that RJ has an edge there. In fact, RJs durability and ability to eat up a lot of minutes is one of his strengths.
You may have a point about comparisons. But the fact remains that every NBA franchise uses some sort of comparison model to make decisions on the draft, free agency etc. And they're a lot more advanced than what we're doing here. You can ignore them if you want, but it's the direction the league is heading.Yea...but never to correlate a player's development to another player's development.
Yeah, but a large enough sample size has been built up over the years to allow teams to make pretty good guesses. Is it perfect? Ask the Golden State Warriors how that Wiseman pick is working out.
I'm just a little old school I guess. The numbers have a meaning on their own. I'm saying they lose significance when used to try to chart a players development using another player's chart.
fishmike wrote:joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a far comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
they are similar players in terms of stats and impact... more impact. Comparing RJ/Kobe is.... well it's Friday so I'll be nice.RJ has been the same player for the last 3 years. Literally what's he better at since his sophomore/rookie season? (and I like him)
First off I agree he is nothing like Kobe.
Second question...his 3 point shooting is better. Defense is worse. I think he is more comfortable in the clutch and isn't a horrible passer. This season alone within the past month or so he has been dunking to finish, but his finishing around the basket needs major work.
Factors like physical development are subjective. Is RJ not going to physically develop any more?
Im seeing more in traffic dunks this year. His 3pt shot has tightend up. I see him going to the rim and getting fouled more, and Im seeing more misses too, but....We have really good offensive rebounding numbers and his coach is ok with it. We are over .500 which is an improvement over last year.
Paul Pierce is heading to HOF.
Lavert is the low bar.
What I think and what I hope are not the same. Im suspect on RJ like many of you, but Im really ok with what happening. Its progressing. Destination unknown.
I think it's becoming obvious RJ is going to be at best that third player on a good team. He's a work horse so his shooting will keep improving slightly but he's never going to be a reliable knock down shooter. I actually think he needs to dial it back and stop trying to be an All-Star and concentrate more on being a more complete player, especially on defense. I think right now he's too obsessed with getting shots up and scoring 20 ppg that it takes away from his defense and playmaking. Someone needs to get in his ear and tell him a 15-18 ppg player on better efficiency and much better defense and playmaking is way better then a 22-25 ppg scorer in poor efficiency and no defense.
NYKMentality wrote:I'll agree to disagree.Because R.J. Barrett is in a league of his own alongside the likes of only Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, LeBron James, Tracy McGrady, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant and Luka Doncic in regards to POINTS/REBOUNDS/ASSISTS @ the age of only 22.
Don't believe me?
Research and look it up.
It's true.
Nah, he's much closer to Tyreke Evans than any of the HOFers you just mentioned:
https://stathead.com/tiny/ga9bW
joec32033 wrote:why do you say his 3 point shooting is better? He was 40% his 2nd year. Its been 34% the following two years. That's not good or a good sign. His FG% is better at the rim. That's the only real plus I am seeing these days. His EFG% and TS% are just not very good. Looks like the hot stretch to finish his 2nd year was outlier because we havent seen that kind of shooting since.fishmike wrote:joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:https://stathead.com/tiny/2lwzrits retarded.. and they are nothing alike. Kobe's ascension was stardom. RJ looks like a good NBA bucket better and rotation guy. LeVert is more realistic but hopefully as healthy version.If you take a closer look at advance stats and factor in that Kobe only played like 16 minutes a game his rookie season, then I'd say this a pipedream. While RJ has made incremental improvements over the course of his career, Kobe SKYROCKETED during his four year spurt. No need for straw man arguments. Why not make a more reasonable RJ comparison, like Caris LeVert? I'm rooting for RJ, but he projects a ceiling of being a solid wing if you look at it objectively. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely not an untouchable.
Caris LeVert comparison: https://stathead.com/tiny/flXGuRJ is 23 soon... the hope is just he can be better BB player. Smarter plays, less TOs and better shots. Basically just be a better player
Phucking Kobe.. this is him reading this post
https://imgur.com/a/gD1VYmcSo a far comparison is a 19-22 year old RJ to a 22-25 year old Lavert?
they are similar players in terms of stats and impact... more impact. Comparing RJ/Kobe is.... well it's Friday so I'll be nice.RJ has been the same player for the last 3 years. Literally what's he better at since his sophomore/rookie season? (and I like him)
First off I agree he is nothing like Kobe.
Second question...his 3 point shooting is better. Defense is worse. I think he is more comfortable in the clutch and isn't a horrible passer. This season alone within the past month or so he has been dunking to finish, but his finishing around the basket needs major work.
Wiggins is 100% the guy if you wan to compare. Seemingly good stats, but isnt much of an impact player. God I hope I am wrong with RJ. He's young and works hard and plays hard. He's a good guy but I'm just calling it like I see it which is he's not showing the growth that says he's taking it to the next level. I mean Randle/Brunson have shown more improvements in their games this year than RJ has.