Knicks · Big 3? Mid 3? Developing 3? Not a finished product 3? (page 2)

BigDaddyG @ 1/31/2023 2:38 PM
martin wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
VDesai wrote: RJ is the ? - can he still get better from here?
How can he, not get better? Popular to contrary-belief; R.J. Barrett is still the youngest player on our entire team.
Oh... so if it's a case of how CANT RJ get better than why ISNT he?

He's literally the same player year after year. Feel free to elaborate on how he's improved his game.

His analytics are bad. His EFF% numbers are bad. RJ is below league average in like everything. He's not a plus defender. He's a bulldozer who gets to the basket. He's got one outlier season shooting the 3 well that gave us hope. We have not seen anything like that sophomore season.

RJ is starting to remind me to Myles Turner... same guy year after year. He seems good but isnt really. I hope I'm wrong. RJ is a young guy and likable but he's been 100% "meh" for 4 years outside of the 2nd year where we were tricked

I'll agree to disagree.

His point scoring has increased every single year and here in 2022-2023 he's having a career year in True Shooting Percentage.

And technically speaking this year of 2022-2023 should only be his Rookie NBA season (had he stayed in school all 4 years).

PS: Both of his 2PT% and FT% percentages are @ a career high here in 2022-2023 so you're (downright) lying when claiming he's the "same player" he was as a Rookie.

Dont make me take out my per 36min or per 100 possessions calculator man!!!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...


He's made incremental improvements offensively, and the free throw rate is encouraging. But he's still below average offensively. And the declining defensive rating is worrisome.
Philc1 @ 1/31/2023 6:33 PM
RJ, Julius and Brunson are definitely a better big 3 than Kristaps, THJ and Frank
Panos @ 1/31/2023 7:46 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
VDesai wrote: RJ is the ? - can he still get better from here?
How can he, not get better? Popular to contrary-belief; R.J. Barrett is still the youngest player on our entire team.
Oh... so if it's a case of how CANT RJ get better than why ISNT he?

He's literally the same player year after year. Feel free to elaborate on how he's improved his game.

His analytics are bad. His EFF% numbers are bad. RJ is below league average in like everything. He's not a plus defender. He's a bulldozer who gets to the basket. He's got one outlier season shooting the 3 well that gave us hope. We have not seen anything like that sophomore season.

RJ is starting to remind me to Myles Turner... same guy year after year. He seems good but isnt really. I hope I'm wrong. RJ is a young guy and likable but he's been 100% "meh" for 4 years outside of the 2nd year where we were tricked

I'll agree to disagree.

His point scoring has increased every single year and here in 2022-2023 he's having a career year in True Shooting Percentage.

And technically speaking this year of 2022-2023 should only be his Rookie NBA season (had he stayed in school all 4 years).

PS: Both of his 2PT% and FT% percentages are @ a career high here in 2022-2023 so you're (downright) lying when claiming he's the "same player" he was as a Rookie.

Um... what NBA players stay in college for 4 years at this point? All the good ones leave after one. Stop gaslighting with that argument.

joec32033 @ 1/31/2023 11:18 PM
martin wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
VDesai wrote: RJ is the ? - can he still get better from here?
How can he, not get better? Popular to contrary-belief; R.J. Barrett is still the youngest player on our entire team.
Oh... so if it's a case of how CANT RJ get better than why ISNT he?

He's literally the same player year after year. Feel free to elaborate on how he's improved his game.

His analytics are bad. His EFF% numbers are bad. RJ is below league average in like everything. He's not a plus defender. He's a bulldozer who gets to the basket. He's got one outlier season shooting the 3 well that gave us hope. We have not seen anything like that sophomore season.

RJ is starting to remind me to Myles Turner... same guy year after year. He seems good but isnt really. I hope I'm wrong. RJ is a young guy and likable but he's been 100% "meh" for 4 years outside of the 2nd year where we were tricked

I'll agree to disagree.

His point scoring has increased every single year and here in 2022-2023 he's having a career year in True Shooting Percentage.

And technically speaking this year of 2022-2023 should only be his Rookie NBA season (had he stayed in school all 4 years).

PS: Both of his 2PT% and FT% percentages are @ a career high here in 2022-2023 so you're (downright) lying when claiming he's the "same player" he was as a Rookie.

Dont make me take out my per 36min or per 100 possessions calculator man!!!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...

So some of his quantifiable stats remained the same or got worse (rebounds, steals) his scoring is up by 6 points a game and his percentages, PER and True Shooting percentage have gotten better. And maintaing his numbers, especially while going from #2 option to #3 option...

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