Knicks · [Game Thread 5/2/23] 2nd Round Game 2 vs Heat 7:30PM TNT (page 16)

HofstraBBall @ 5/4/2023 8:04 AM
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I felt like the Knicks got a lot of help from the refs to win this one. I think NY needs to go back to it's original rotation of starting Grimes and bringing Josh off the bench. Hopefully that does something for Quickly. If Quickly can't get back on track, I'm nervous about the Knicks prospects.

That does a lot for the entire team. He still gets his 30+ mins per game, so I don't see the big deal. Knick fans love him, and he's playing with Brunson in an impactful role as a swiss army knife. But for the same reasons I did not like RJ and Randle together. I don't like Hart in that starting unit, as far as the offensive flow. But Thibs will figure out how to balance that out with his substitution patterns. Thibs is leaning on defense more than offense. The issue is Deuce is on the bench and hes our best PG defender on the team. Hart is better at guarding SGs and SFs. But there's nobody in the starting lineup who can guard quick PGs who can shoot.

This is why I felt IQ would've been a better replacement for Grimes. Then you have Hart passing to Grimes and Obi, which will get them going, especially Grimes.

Disagree with Hart not fitting with starting line up. Think he fits better with them than Grimes. Being he does not need the ball in his hands or needs to score. He helps the offense leaning JB, RJ and Randle on the defensive end. Feel Grimes struggles have been that he does not know how to fit in with such ball dominant players. He is better in the second unit. Where he would be a top two go to guy. Especially if coaching staff can remind IQ he is still in a PG role with the second unit. Sometimes IQ is too offensive minded and forgets his job is still to run the offense and get others going.

Who is this Deuce you keep talking about? Do not think we need anyone to stop a "quick" PG. For the most part the challenge has been to stop the good ball movement and ball rotation that has resulted in open shots for the Heat. Dont think it has been about stopping a quick PG who is going one on one. Do think that Deuce should get some more time but more so to run the second unit better than IQ. An of course to do his thing on defense.

Brunson - mid range shooter who scores in the paint
Hart - scores at the rim
RJ - scores at the rim
Mitch - scores at the rim
Randle - injured same ankle twice, which impacts his legs and shooting

Grimes just started to play better before he got injured. Hart is starting because grimes is injured not because he’s a better fit. You will see on Saturday because thibs is not changing anything especially after a win. Just watch hart on offense in half court. He doesn’t fit. In the second unit, Obi IQ they run more. Add RJ to the second unit rotation and they score in transition. That’s harts game.

Hart is starting because he is playing better. Period.
Don't know what you have been watching but Grimes has not been effective.
JHart looked like a pretty good fit during the big moments of the game when he sank those critical threes.

We can go back and forth about who we "Think" fits better but that is all personal opinion.
You are also talking about JHart like he has not typically been a starter.
Envisioning JHart playing better with the second unit and thinking Grimes fits better in the first has nothing to do with what has been the case recently. And Thibs will coach on actualities not what we think may happen. Still believe in Grimes long term but, like I have said all year, we need a proven player at SG. JHart has proven he is a much bigger impact than Grimes thus far. Also believe that Grimes has a better chance of getting his stroke back in the second unit where he will get more touches. Which would help out biggest weakness right now. Our second unit.

fishmike @ 5/4/2023 8:10 AM
joec32033 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:RJ last 5…

23/5/4

62 ts%, 53% Fg and 37% 3fg

This is the RJ we have all been waiting for

yeah and Thibs got him out right before he could fumble passes, lose him man at the 3pt line or dribbling into the zone. He was playing GREAT but you could see bone headed RJ starting to poke out from his shell and Thibs said "Grimes.. you up"

Give credit to the Heat AND the Knicks. Heat executed a fantastic plan and stayed in the game. Knicks didnt let that beat them, stayed close and executed in crunch time. That's how it's supposed to look

Randle showed his value today. They ran the ball through him because Heat refused to let Brunson operate with space and I thought Randle sliced them up pretty well. To me he's why we win this series. We cant really stop Bam from doing his thing but he's GOT to deal with Mitch/Hart which leaves Jules free to do his thing while being covered by a wing.

I know Thibs loves Josh but he cant play him 48 minutes. We need a strong performance from the bench which we clearly arent getting. IDK how that changes.

I feel GREAT about winning a game or two in Miami

Damn Bro. Did RJ kick your dog in a past life or something?

RJ's a tough kid but most of my dogs would have eaten him. Why do you ask?
martin @ 5/4/2023 8:55 AM
joec32033 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:My goodness this game thread was a trip.
The game was awful because some of you just want to see winning, not the art of the contest?
Heat get this far regardless of the lack of names and draft positions they should be respected.
This was how it was for years and year when heat are in playoffs. Some years they are good, some not so. YOu meet them in the playoffs they will drag you down and exact influence.

Thibs coached a great game. It was ugly. But the passing was there and keeping grimes fresh legs in the 4th mattered. He played great!!!
Randle ankle loosened up and he was great.
JB was not himself, but he came up big.
RJ you can see was struggling. HIs legs looked tired in the 3rd. Kid had a great game.
Great game! Heat took out Mitch somewhat and Isiah Hart was a wrecker!!!
WE go back to southbeach tied. Great series!!!!

Great game to watch and good game to turn off at spots. Lol
For those that don't appreciate a tough PF beast that demands double teams, you saw why you should last night. Randle as I have been saying is an elite physical PF.
Albeit, a "Wild" beast at times. It is something a chip team needs. We don't win the game without him.
IHart played great. Like Randle, brought the physicality. Beat up Bam all game and kept him under control. IHart is that big who does the "little" things a chip team needs. We don't win the game without him.
RJ was unstoppable going to the basket. Have always said he is elite getting to the rim. Also have said that if he makes his threes, he is an All Star. He was that last night. We don't win the game without him.
JHart is that glue guy, dog mentality player a chip team needs. He was also the "upgrade PG" I have been asking for all year, with his clutch shooting, last night. We don't win the game without him.
But MOST of all it was mother fucking Jalen Brunson. Kid is our MVP. He won't let us lose. Kid made big shot after big shot. Proving that last year was not a fluke. We definitely don't win the game without him.

Win was a quintessential team win! All around good game from our big three and a couple from our role guys. Need to figure out how to cool Miami's three point shooting. If they continue to make that many threes and Butler comes back, we will have a tough time moving on. Also need our bench, besides the two Harts to wake up. It was our strength during the regular season and now our weakness. A reminder to those that love the yoots but don't understand that the vets are the ones who can continue their regular season success into the pressure packed playoffs.

I agree with everything but the bolded part. It should be Jalen Mother Fuckin' Brunson.

+1

KnickDanger @ 5/4/2023 9:06 AM
Psyched for the game tonight! Oh wait, not until Saturday? Huh?

Anyway, I'm a guy who turns off the game when we fall behind too. It hurts. And then we get our dumplings and turn it back on. But what I'll say is who before the season would have layed money the Knicks would play at least five second round play off games?

My last thought - this team wins so ugly. Reminds me a lot of a Knicks team of a somewhat recent decade. We can do our pissing and moaning about Randle's spin or RJ's three point shot or that Thibs doesn't put in Fournier, but dammit they do not fold. Love this team. Don't want to trade any of them for KAT or Dillon Brooks or whomever the hell, sorry.

Panos @ 5/4/2023 9:09 AM
martin wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:My goodness this game thread was a trip.
The game was awful because some of you just want to see winning, not the art of the contest?
Heat get this far regardless of the lack of names and draft positions they should be respected.
This was how it was for years and year when heat are in playoffs. Some years they are good, some not so. YOu meet them in the playoffs they will drag you down and exact influence.

Thibs coached a great game. It was ugly. But the passing was there and keeping grimes fresh legs in the 4th mattered. He played great!!!
Randle ankle loosened up and he was great.
JB was not himself, but he came up big.
RJ you can see was struggling. HIs legs looked tired in the 3rd. Kid had a great game.
Great game! Heat took out Mitch somewhat and Isiah Hart was a wrecker!!!
WE go back to southbeach tied. Great series!!!!

Great game to watch and good game to turn off at spots. Lol
For those that don't appreciate a tough PF beast that demands double teams, you saw why you should last night. Randle as I have been saying is an elite physical PF.
Albeit, a "Wild" beast at times. It is something a chip team needs. We don't win the game without him.
IHart played great. Like Randle, brought the physicality. Beat up Bam all game and kept him under control. IHart is that big who does the "little" things a chip team needs. We don't win the game without him.
RJ was unstoppable going to the basket. Have always said he is elite getting to the rim. Also have said that if he makes his threes, he is an All Star. He was that last night. We don't win the game without him.
JHart is that glue guy, dog mentality player a chip team needs. He was also the "upgrade PG" I have been asking for all year, with his clutch shooting, last night. We don't win the game without him.
But MOST of all it was mother fucking Jalen Brunson. Kid is our MVP. He won't let us lose. Kid made big shot after big shot. Proving that last year was not a fluke. We definitely don't win the game without him.

Win was a quintessential team win! All around good game from our big three and a couple from our role guys. Need to figure out how to cool Miami's three point shooting. If they continue to make that many threes and Butler comes back, we will have a tough time moving on. Also need our bench, besides the two Harts to wake up. It was our strength during the regular season and now our weakness. A reminder to those that love the yoots but don't understand that the vets are the ones who can continue their regular season success into the pressure packed playoffs.

I agree with everything but the bolded part. It should be Jalen Mother Fuckin' Brunson.

+1



Jalen is a bad MFer. He's Shaft.

martin @ 5/4/2023 9:26 AM

martin @ 5/4/2023 9:32 AM
Game wouldn't have ended right if we didn't have Josh Hart sneakin some food

martin @ 5/4/2023 10:09 AM
I would expect iHart to have a much bigger involvement in everything next year.

fishmike @ 5/4/2023 10:11 AM
martin wrote:I would expect iHart to have a much bigger involvement in everything next year.

if he was on the Hear IHart would be who is because of Spoel's genius. I guess we just lucky :)
martin @ 5/4/2023 10:15 AM
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:I would expect iHart to have a much bigger involvement in everything next year.

if he was on the Hear IHart would be who is because of Spoel's genius. I guess we just lucky :)

Right, especially considering Thibs never develops or plays younger guys

blkexec @ 5/4/2023 11:19 AM
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I felt like the Knicks got a lot of help from the refs to win this one. I think NY needs to go back to it's original rotation of starting Grimes and bringing Josh off the bench. Hopefully that does something for Quickly. If Quickly can't get back on track, I'm nervous about the Knicks prospects.

That does a lot for the entire team. He still gets his 30+ mins per game, so I don't see the big deal. Knick fans love him, and he's playing with Brunson in an impactful role as a swiss army knife. But for the same reasons I did not like RJ and Randle together. I don't like Hart in that starting unit, as far as the offensive flow. But Thibs will figure out how to balance that out with his substitution patterns. Thibs is leaning on defense more than offense. The issue is Deuce is on the bench and hes our best PG defender on the team. Hart is better at guarding SGs and SFs. But there's nobody in the starting lineup who can guard quick PGs who can shoot.

This is why I felt IQ would've been a better replacement for Grimes. Then you have Hart passing to Grimes and Obi, which will get them going, especially Grimes.

Disagree with Hart not fitting with starting line up. Think he fits better with them than Grimes. Being he does not need the ball in his hands or needs to score. He helps the offense leaning JB, RJ and Randle on the defensive end. Feel Grimes struggles have been that he does not know how to fit in with such ball dominant players. He is better in the second unit. Where he would be a top two go to guy. Especially if coaching staff can remind IQ he is still in a PG role with the second unit. Sometimes IQ is too offensive minded and forgets his job is still to run the offense and get others going.

Who is this Deuce you keep talking about? Do not think we need anyone to stop a "quick" PG. For the most part the challenge has been to stop the good ball movement and ball rotation that has resulted in open shots for the Heat. Dont think it has been about stopping a quick PG who is going one on one. Do think that Deuce should get some more time but more so to run the second unit better than IQ. An of course to do his thing on defense.

Brunson - mid range shooter who scores in the paint
Hart - scores at the rim
RJ - scores at the rim
Mitch - scores at the rim
Randle - injured same ankle twice, which impacts his legs and shooting

Grimes just started to play better before he got injured. Hart is starting because grimes is injured not because he’s a better fit. You will see on Saturday because thibs is not changing anything especially after a win. Just watch hart on offense in half court. He doesn’t fit. In the second unit, Obi IQ they run more. Add RJ to the second unit rotation and they score in transition. That’s harts game.

Yep, Grimes is the better fit when he's on his game. A three and D guard who doesn't hesitate to shoot the open three is what we need. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case. I'd love to see Hart creating one man fast breaks with Obi, Hart and IQ, especially in this series where easy looks are hard to come by. But Grimes needs to step in order for that to happen. Every possession matters now and we can't afford empty minutes.

I think Randle should be the one checking Butler. Maybe there's a mismatch down the line somewhere, but Randle and Butler spent time going at it in the regular season so I'm not sure if it's a problem. RJ can cover K Love defensively because Love just hangs on the perimeter.

I like that idea. It will be difficult for Jimmy Buckets to back down Randle or shoot over him. But I'm sure Thibs Rather use RJ or Hart, if thats the starting unit. And put Randle on Love to preserve his ankle from rolling again. I cringe now whenever I see Randle in traffic making plays or rebounding. And I'm sure Thibs does not want another Randle injury right now. But I agree. Especially in crunch time. Gives Butler a different look. Thibs has to keep them guessing. Otherwise Miami's real time strategies and adjustments are on point.

Nalod @ 5/4/2023 12:43 PM
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I felt like the Knicks got a lot of help from the refs to win this one. I think NY needs to go back to it's original rotation of starting Grimes and bringing Josh off the bench. Hopefully that does something for Quickly. If Quickly can't get back on track, I'm nervous about the Knicks prospects.

That does a lot for the entire team. He still gets his 30+ mins per game, so I don't see the big deal. Knick fans love him, and he's playing with Brunson in an impactful role as a swiss army knife. But for the same reasons I did not like RJ and Randle together. I don't like Hart in that starting unit, as far as the offensive flow. But Thibs will figure out how to balance that out with his substitution patterns. Thibs is leaning on defense more than offense. The issue is Deuce is on the bench and hes our best PG defender on the team. Hart is better at guarding SGs and SFs. But there's nobody in the starting lineup who can guard quick PGs who can shoot.

This is why I felt IQ would've been a better replacement for Grimes. Then you have Hart passing to Grimes and Obi, which will get them going, especially Grimes.

Disagree with Hart not fitting with starting line up. Think he fits better with them than Grimes. Being he does not need the ball in his hands or needs to score. He helps the offense leaning JB, RJ and Randle on the defensive end. Feel Grimes struggles have been that he does not know how to fit in with such ball dominant players. He is better in the second unit. Where he would be a top two go to guy. Especially if coaching staff can remind IQ he is still in a PG role with the second unit. Sometimes IQ is too offensive minded and forgets his job is still to run the offense and get others going.

Who is this Deuce you keep talking about? Do not think we need anyone to stop a "quick" PG. For the most part the challenge has been to stop the good ball movement and ball rotation that has resulted in open shots for the Heat. Dont think it has been about stopping a quick PG who is going one on one. Do think that Deuce should get some more time but more so to run the second unit better than IQ. An of course to do his thing on defense.

Brunson - mid range shooter who scores in the paint
Hart - scores at the rim
RJ - scores at the rim
Mitch - scores at the rim
Randle - injured same ankle twice, which impacts his legs and shooting

Grimes just started to play better before he got injured. Hart is starting because grimes is injured not because he’s a better fit. You will see on Saturday because thibs is not changing anything especially after a win. Just watch hart on offense in half court. He doesn’t fit. In the second unit, Obi IQ they run more. Add RJ to the second unit rotation and they score in transition. That’s harts game.

Yep, Grimes is the better fit when he's on his game. A three and D guard who doesn't hesitate to shoot the open three is what we need. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case. I'd love to see Hart creating one man fast breaks with Obi, Hart and IQ, especially in this series where easy looks are hard to come by. But Grimes needs to step in order for that to happen. Every possession matters now and we can't afford empty minutes.

I think Randle should be the one checking Butler. Maybe there's a mismatch down the line somewhere, but Randle and Butler spent time going at it in the regular season so I'm not sure if it's a problem. RJ can cover K Love defensively because Love just hangs on the perimeter.

I like that idea. It will be difficult for Jimmy Buckets to back down Randle or shoot over him. But I'm sure Thibs Rather use RJ or Hart, if thats the starting unit. And put Randle on Love to preserve his ankle from rolling again. I cringe now whenever I see Randle in traffic making plays or rebounding. And I'm sure Thibs does not want another Randle injury right now. But I agree. Especially in crunch time. Gives Butler a different look. Thibs has to keep them guessing. Otherwise Miami's real time strategies and adjustments are on point.

I think Butler gets different players on him but the last few years I thought RJ has been on him a great deal of time.

BigDaddyG @ 5/4/2023 1:05 PM
Nalod wrote:
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I felt like the Knicks got a lot of help from the refs to win this one. I think NY needs to go back to it's original rotation of starting Grimes and bringing Josh off the bench. Hopefully that does something for Quickly. If Quickly can't get back on track, I'm nervous about the Knicks prospects.

That does a lot for the entire team. He still gets his 30+ mins per game, so I don't see the big deal. Knick fans love him, and he's playing with Brunson in an impactful role as a swiss army knife. But for the same reasons I did not like RJ and Randle together. I don't like Hart in that starting unit, as far as the offensive flow. But Thibs will figure out how to balance that out with his substitution patterns. Thibs is leaning on defense more than offense. The issue is Deuce is on the bench and hes our best PG defender on the team. Hart is better at guarding SGs and SFs. But there's nobody in the starting lineup who can guard quick PGs who can shoot.

This is why I felt IQ would've been a better replacement for Grimes. Then you have Hart passing to Grimes and Obi, which will get them going, especially Grimes.

Disagree with Hart not fitting with starting line up. Think he fits better with them than Grimes. Being he does not need the ball in his hands or needs to score. He helps the offense leaning JB, RJ and Randle on the defensive end. Feel Grimes struggles have been that he does not know how to fit in with such ball dominant players. He is better in the second unit. Where he would be a top two go to guy. Especially if coaching staff can remind IQ he is still in a PG role with the second unit. Sometimes IQ is too offensive minded and forgets his job is still to run the offense and get others going.

Who is this Deuce you keep talking about? Do not think we need anyone to stop a "quick" PG. For the most part the challenge has been to stop the good ball movement and ball rotation that has resulted in open shots for the Heat. Dont think it has been about stopping a quick PG who is going one on one. Do think that Deuce should get some more time but more so to run the second unit better than IQ. An of course to do his thing on defense.

Brunson - mid range shooter who scores in the paint
Hart - scores at the rim
RJ - scores at the rim
Mitch - scores at the rim
Randle - injured same ankle twice, which impacts his legs and shooting

Grimes just started to play better before he got injured. Hart is starting because grimes is injured not because he’s a better fit. You will see on Saturday because thibs is not changing anything especially after a win. Just watch hart on offense in half court. He doesn’t fit. In the second unit, Obi IQ they run more. Add RJ to the second unit rotation and they score in transition. That’s harts game.

Yep, Grimes is the better fit when he's on his game. A three and D guard who doesn't hesitate to shoot the open three is what we need. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case. I'd love to see Hart creating one man fast breaks with Obi, Hart and IQ, especially in this series where easy looks are hard to come by. But Grimes needs to step in order for that to happen. Every possession matters now and we can't afford empty minutes.

I think Randle should be the one checking Butler. Maybe there's a mismatch down the line somewhere, but Randle and Butler spent time going at it in the regular season so I'm not sure if it's a problem. RJ can cover K Love defensively because Love just hangs on the perimeter.

I like that idea. It will be difficult for Jimmy Buckets to back down Randle or shoot over him. But I'm sure Thibs Rather use RJ or Hart, if thats the starting unit. And put Randle on Love to preserve his ankle from rolling again. I cringe now whenever I see Randle in traffic making plays or rebounding. And I'm sure Thibs does not want another Randle injury right now. But I agree. Especially in crunch time. Gives Butler a different look. Thibs has to keep them guessing. Otherwise Miami's real time strategies and adjustments are on point.

I think Butler gets different players on him but the last few years I thought RJ has been on him a great deal of time.


RJ guarded decrepit regular season Jimmy. Playoff Jimmy is a different level of boss villain.

MaTT4281 @ 5/4/2023 1:32 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
RJ guarded decrepit regular season Jimmy. Playoff Jimmy is a different level of boss villain.

But Playoff RJ has also ascended!

BigDaddyG @ 5/4/2023 1:39 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
RJ guarded decrepit regular season Jimmy. Playoff Jimmy is a different level of boss villain.

But Playoff RJ has also ascended!


True... But we need to kick some life into playoff IQ.
Nalod @ 5/4/2023 3:31 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I felt like the Knicks got a lot of help from the refs to win this one. I think NY needs to go back to it's original rotation of starting Grimes and bringing Josh off the bench. Hopefully that does something for Quickly. If Quickly can't get back on track, I'm nervous about the Knicks prospects.

That does a lot for the entire team. He still gets his 30+ mins per game, so I don't see the big deal. Knick fans love him, and he's playing with Brunson in an impactful role as a swiss army knife. But for the same reasons I did not like RJ and Randle together. I don't like Hart in that starting unit, as far as the offensive flow. But Thibs will figure out how to balance that out with his substitution patterns. Thibs is leaning on defense more than offense. The issue is Deuce is on the bench and hes our best PG defender on the team. Hart is better at guarding SGs and SFs. But there's nobody in the starting lineup who can guard quick PGs who can shoot.

This is why I felt IQ would've been a better replacement for Grimes. Then you have Hart passing to Grimes and Obi, which will get them going, especially Grimes.

Disagree with Hart not fitting with starting line up. Think he fits better with them than Grimes. Being he does not need the ball in his hands or needs to score. He helps the offense leaning JB, RJ and Randle on the defensive end. Feel Grimes struggles have been that he does not know how to fit in with such ball dominant players. He is better in the second unit. Where he would be a top two go to guy. Especially if coaching staff can remind IQ he is still in a PG role with the second unit. Sometimes IQ is too offensive minded and forgets his job is still to run the offense and get others going.

Who is this Deuce you keep talking about? Do not think we need anyone to stop a "quick" PG. For the most part the challenge has been to stop the good ball movement and ball rotation that has resulted in open shots for the Heat. Dont think it has been about stopping a quick PG who is going one on one. Do think that Deuce should get some more time but more so to run the second unit better than IQ. An of course to do his thing on defense.

Brunson - mid range shooter who scores in the paint
Hart - scores at the rim
RJ - scores at the rim
Mitch - scores at the rim
Randle - injured same ankle twice, which impacts his legs and shooting

Grimes just started to play better before he got injured. Hart is starting because grimes is injured not because he’s a better fit. You will see on Saturday because thibs is not changing anything especially after a win. Just watch hart on offense in half court. He doesn’t fit. In the second unit, Obi IQ they run more. Add RJ to the second unit rotation and they score in transition. That’s harts game.

Yep, Grimes is the better fit when he's on his game. A three and D guard who doesn't hesitate to shoot the open three is what we need. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case. I'd love to see Hart creating one man fast breaks with Obi, Hart and IQ, especially in this series where easy looks are hard to come by. But Grimes needs to step in order for that to happen. Every possession matters now and we can't afford empty minutes.

I think Randle should be the one checking Butler. Maybe there's a mismatch down the line somewhere, but Randle and Butler spent time going at it in the regular season so I'm not sure if it's a problem. RJ can cover K Love defensively because Love just hangs on the perimeter.

I like that idea. It will be difficult for Jimmy Buckets to back down Randle or shoot over him. But I'm sure Thibs Rather use RJ or Hart, if thats the starting unit. And put Randle on Love to preserve his ankle from rolling again. I cringe now whenever I see Randle in traffic making plays or rebounding. And I'm sure Thibs does not want another Randle injury right now. But I agree. Especially in crunch time. Gives Butler a different look. Thibs has to keep them guessing. Otherwise Miami's real time strategies and adjustments are on point.

I think Butler gets different players on him but the last few years I thought RJ has been on him a great deal of time.


RJ guarded decrepit regular season Jimmy. Playoff Jimmy is a different level of boss villain.

RJ hung 46 on Heat last season! He fears not the JImmy of post season!!!!
You want to be the man, you got to play the man.

ToddTT @ 5/4/2023 4:52 PM
martin wrote:Game wouldn't have ended right if we didn't have Josh Hart sneakin some food

Just hysterical.

joec32033 @ 5/4/2023 11:25 PM
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:RJ last 5…

23/5/4

62 ts%, 53% Fg and 37% 3fg

This is the RJ we have all been waiting for

yeah and Thibs got him out right before he could fumble passes, lose him man at the 3pt line or dribbling into the zone. He was playing GREAT but you could see bone headed RJ starting to poke out from his shell and Thibs said "Grimes.. you up"

Give credit to the Heat AND the Knicks. Heat executed a fantastic plan and stayed in the game. Knicks didnt let that beat them, stayed close and executed in crunch time. That's how it's supposed to look

Randle showed his value today. They ran the ball through him because Heat refused to let Brunson operate with space and I thought Randle sliced them up pretty well. To me he's why we win this series. We cant really stop Bam from doing his thing but he's GOT to deal with Mitch/Hart which leaves Jules free to do his thing while being covered by a wing.

I know Thibs loves Josh but he cant play him 48 minutes. We need a strong performance from the bench which we clearly arent getting. IDK how that changes.

I feel GREAT about winning a game or two in Miami

Damn Bro. Did RJ kick your dog in a past life or something?

RJ's a tough kid but most of my dogs would have eaten him. Why do you ask?

No reason. Just a hunch.

joec32033 @ 5/4/2023 11:34 PM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:Game wouldn't have ended right if we didn't have Josh Hart sneakin some food

Just hysterical.

Brunson has the "defeated dad/"what the fuck are you up to now, kid" schtick down cold.

I would love to see (shameless recruitment to do something I am too lazy/to unskilled to do) a video highlight package of all their press conferences. I think that would be totally worth it.

fishmike @ 5/5/2023 8:47 AM
joec32033 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:RJ last 5…

23/5/4

62 ts%, 53% Fg and 37% 3fg

This is the RJ we have all been waiting for

yeah and Thibs got him out right before he could fumble passes, lose him man at the 3pt line or dribbling into the zone. He was playing GREAT but you could see bone headed RJ starting to poke out from his shell and Thibs said "Grimes.. you up"

Give credit to the Heat AND the Knicks. Heat executed a fantastic plan and stayed in the game. Knicks didnt let that beat them, stayed close and executed in crunch time. That's how it's supposed to look

Randle showed his value today. They ran the ball through him because Heat refused to let Brunson operate with space and I thought Randle sliced them up pretty well. To me he's why we win this series. We cant really stop Bam from doing his thing but he's GOT to deal with Mitch/Hart which leaves Jules free to do his thing while being covered by a wing.

I know Thibs loves Josh but he cant play him 48 minutes. We need a strong performance from the bench which we clearly arent getting. IDK how that changes.

I feel GREAT about winning a game or two in Miami

Damn Bro. Did RJ kick your dog in a past life or something?

RJ's a tough kid but most of my dogs would have eaten him. Why do you ask?

No reason. Just a hunch.

prolly best not to trust those
martin @ 5/5/2023 10:12 AM
This is part of how Obi needs to do better. Rebound first, outlet after you know you are not part of the rebounding effort.

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