Clean wrote:Please don't let us lose this game. I don't know if I could recovering from losing to the Heat without Bulter and Herro.
Yeah. I'd be open to make changes at every position except Mitch, Brunson and the Harts. Have to win tonight.
We are fortunate to be down by just 3.
RJ went nuts 1st qtr then passive 2d qtr. need RJ second half
CleaverGreene wrote:With no Butler, this should've been a statement effort by the Knicks, a game in which the Knicks assert themselves as a team.It might still end up being so, but right now, this team looks pretty lame against a no star Miami team.
Our offense depends on the 1/1 efforts of Brunson, Randle, and RJ, and their respective success scoring or dishing. Very little ball movement passing.
It has been torture to watch.
This is what scares me the most. It was like this every regular season game also. We could a big lead with ball movement but once 4th hits its ISO's all day. That is part of the reason why we have trouble holding leads. No creativity at all. We have the plays because we see them when our stars are injured. We just never use them.
CleaverGreene wrote:With no Butler, this should've been a statement effort by the Knicks, a game in which the Knicks assert themselves as a team.It might still end up being so, but right now, this team looks pretty lame against a no star Miami team.
Our offense depends on the 1/1 efforts of Brunson, Randle, and RJ, and their respective success scoring or dishing. Very little ball movement passing.
It has been torture to watch.
That's been the case all season. With 3 possessions per game by Hartenstein with some passing
Panos wrote:CleaverGreene wrote:With no Butler, this should've been a statement effort by the Knicks, a game in which the Knicks assert themselves as a team.It might still end up being so, but right now, this team looks pretty lame against a no star Miami team.
Our offense depends on the 1/1 efforts of Brunson, Randle, and RJ, and their respective success scoring or dishing. Very little ball movement passing.
It has been torture to watch.
Horrible. Like a scrub team.
We are a gutty group, no doubt about it, but when you compare our offense to Miami's, we look downright primitive at times.
Thibs is a good coach but, for my money, Spoelstra is better.
Would it really be so horrible to run a couple of pick and rolls?
Jesus.
The pass-around-the-horn-until-someone-launches-and-misses-a-3pt play has gotten old.
BigDaddyG wrote:Clean wrote:Please don't let us lose this game. I don't know if I could recovering from losing to the Heat without Bulter and Herro.
Yeah. I'd be open to make changes at every position except Mitch, Brunson and the Harts. Have to win tonight.
We need to find a tall PG that can distribute the ball with vision and let JB be a scorer.
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Heat 44-38 29 25 - - 54
Knicks 47-35 31 20 - - 51STARTERS MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
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G. Vincent G 18 3 1-7 1-5 0-0 0 2 2 4 0 0 0 2 6
M. Strus G 14 6 2-5 2-4 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -5
C. Martin F 17 12 4-6 2-2 2-2 1 4 5 1 0 0 0 2 -4
K. Love F 12 8 2-6 2-5 2-2 1 2 3 0 1 0 1 1 -3
B. Adebayo C 18 8 2-5 0-0 4-5 1 3 4 4 1 0 0 1 2
BENCH MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
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K. Lowry 14 4 2-6 0-3 0-0 0 2 2 2 0 0 1 0 4
H. Highsmith 11 5 2-3 1-2 0-1 2 1 3 2 1 1 0 1 1
D. Robinson 10 6 2-3 2-3 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 11
C. Zeller 3 2 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 3
STARTERS MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
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J. Brunson G 19 7 1-6 1-3 4-4 0 2 2 1 0 1 0 0 2
J. Hart G 16 2 1-4 0-1 0-0 0 6 6 5 1 1 0 1 2
R. Barrett F 21 19 6-10 4-6 3-5 1 2 3 1 2 0 0 0 -2
J. Randle F 17 18 6-12 2-5 4-4 0 4 4 3 1 0 0 1 3
M. Robinson C 10 3 1-4 0-2 1-4 3 1 4 0 0 0 0 3 2
BENCH MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
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I. Hartenstein 12 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 0 0 1 1 3 -5
Q. Grimes 10 0 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 2 2 0 0 0 1 1 -4
O. Toppin 6 0 0-2 0-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 -6
I. Quickley 5 2 1-3 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 -7
JB is kicking out almost every time he drives. The sore ankle isnt helping. Hope to see a lot more screens set in the second half. Mostly passing the ball around the perimeter. No cutting to speak of. Not creating opportunities for easy buckets.
GustavBahler wrote:JB is kicking out almost every time he drives. The sore ankle isnt helping. Hope to see a lot more screens set in the second half. Mostly passing the ball around the perimeter. No cutting to speak of. Not creating opportunities for easy buckets.
Nobody even moves off the ball.
ALSO, when is the last time someone ACTUALLY took the pick a big set for them instead of going the way the defender is free to stay on them?
Quickley and Grimes being non-factors on offense in the playoffs has really held us back. When those guys are hoopin we can beat anyone. When they aren’t there’s just not enough weapons and 3pt threats on this team.
Panos wrote:GustavBahler wrote:JB is kicking out almost every time he drives. The sore ankle isnt helping. Hope to see a lot more screens set in the second half. Mostly passing the ball around the perimeter. No cutting to speak of. Not creating opportunities for easy buckets.
Nobody even moves off the ball.
ALSO, when is the last time someone ACTUALLY took the pick a big set for them instead of going the way the defender is free to stay on them?
Seems like that hasn't happened once these playoffs for us
ToddTT wrote:JB ain't right.
Brunson should have probably sat out. Sucks to see him go out like this. 
Knixkik wrote:Quickley and Grimes being non-factors on offense in the playoffs has really held us back. When those guys are hoopin we can beat anyone. When they aren’t there’s just not enough weapons and 3pt threats on this team.
Hopefully they learn from it and get better for the future. It ain't our time.
WP76 wrote:Thibs is a good coach but, for my money, Spoelstra is better.
Spoelstra is better then everyone.
SergioNYK wrote:ToddTT wrote:JB ain't right.
Brunson should have probably sat out. Sucks to see him go out like this.
He injured his right ankle too, in the 2 quarter
