gradyandrew wrote:Wow what an exciting signature win for the home team!
Do signature wins include allowing a -2 half-time deficit balloon to -21 in less than a quarter?
I would say what an exciting & lucky win with Bam/Jimmy going ~1-11 down the stretch.
ToddTT@ 11/25/2023 10:50 AM
For you fair-weather fans that checked out early...
ToddTT@ 11/25/2023 10:50 AM
So glad we didn't lose to a pirate and a bunch of role players.
LivingLegend@ 11/25/2023 10:56 AM
gradyandrew wrote:I just rewatched the end of 3rd and 4th. I almost feel sorry for Doris that Jimmy and Jaquez couldn't get the win! It's pretty funny how effusive she especially was when the Heat were up big and silent for about 8 minutes of the 4th when the Knicks went on the big run. I would love to see a video of Mike rolling his eyes at Clyde in the other booth.
I agree on Doris but I think Breen is guilty of the same thing with overly effusive praise of Knick opponents.
Green’s a good egg but he comes across less than genuine in overtly praising opponents IMO where with Marv I thought he had the perfect balance of praise/criticism depending how the game was playing out.
Doris is so meh - enjoyed her for a few years but see no growth and respect her opinion less today.
I always turn sound off on Breen national games and most Breen Knick games. Actually enjoy Gus Johnson broadcast the most.
LivingLegend@ 11/25/2023 11:00 AM
blkexec wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:Looking over the stars for the game, the Knicks lost in a lot of areas. Their big strength was points in the paint and the bench. Randle seemed really out of it for the second game in a row; just no hustle in his game at all really. Last year he seemed to really get into the matchup with Butler but this game Q Grimes matched up for most of it.
Quickly is making a strong case for a bigger role. I get the logic of him coming off the bench for reasons of balance, but he's just such an electric player you have to wonder about the benefits of him getting 25 minutes a game vs. last seasons 29. This has been a topic since his rookie year. At some point the benefits of winning now outweigh developmental minutes for Grimes. DDV seems like a suitable replacement for IQs spark plug role.
Knicks survived bad games by 3/5 starters. Kudos to Thibs for getting a strong 4th quarter out of these guys.
Was the 4th quarter a future look at the Knicks if Randle is traded? I believe he came back in the 4th around 4 mins left? His ups and downs should not have so much control on wins and losses since we are deep now. Kudos to Thibs for sitting Randle longer than normal before he came back in the 4th. Otherwise we lose this game!
Why kudos when he still brought him back when he is a TO and defensive lapse waiting to happen. We need smart players on the court - not high usage low efficiency…low IQ players. J- Hart played well and under control —- just leave him out there with Hart/Hart/RJ/IQ/Brunson 5.
LivingLegend@ 11/25/2023 11:00 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I just rewatched the end of 3rd and 4th. I almost feel sorry for Doris that Jimmy and Jaquez couldn't get the win! It's pretty funny how effusive she especially was when the Heat were up big and silent for about 8 minutes of the 4th when the Knicks went on the big run. I would love to see a video of Mike rolling his eyes at Clyde in the other booth.
How could you watch it on ESPN ? During the first few minutes of the game all the crew did was talk about how great Miami has been but no one mentioned the strength of schedules for the Knicks vs the Heat so far.
SOUND OFF - ALWAYS
LivingLegend@ 11/25/2023 11:01 AM
Alpha1971 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:I just rewatched the end of 3rd and 4th. I almost feel sorry for Doris that Jimmy and Jaquez couldn't get the win! It's pretty funny how effusive she especially was when the Heat were up big and silent for about 8 minutes of the 4th when the Knicks went on the big run. I would love to see a video of Mike rolling his eyes at Clyde in the other booth.
How could you watch it on ESPN ? During the first few minutes of the game all the crew did was talk about how great Miami has been but no one mentioned the strength of schedules for the Knicks vs the Heat so far.
I watch it on the Chinese app Tencent because I live in China. They have one English stream per game. It's not bad as I have found absence makes the heart grow fonder. I really get a kick out of Mike and Clyde. I think Mike did a good job compensating for Doris and Doc. Doc spends a fair amount of time reminding viewers of previous things he's said that have come true. For Doris it's tough. I always wonder if my dislike is rooted in some deep seated misogyny; I think there are other women whom I enjoy so I hope it's just her hagiographic style.
Doris is bad. She is the Susan Waldman of Basketball.
LOL - now that is harsh.
LivingLegend@ 11/25/2023 11:10 AM
nycericanguy wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Randall is great when he is going well. Bench piece, a forward who can move the ball and shoot it, who can be inserted when Randall is playing off his meds is essential.
Josh Hart is exactly that.
the issue to me is more can Randle ever be counted on to play well in the playoffs? If not he needs to be replaced period, he's not going to be benched for backups.
No Hart is not. Hart is a 2/3. Has always been to pretend he is a reliable back up 4 against good teams is a mistake.
The numbers dont support that, our defense and rebounding have been elite and we have yet to be outrebounded ANY game this year which is truly amazing.
This team is better having quickness on the perimeter defensively and guys that get at it on the boards like Hart and DDV vs someone else like Obi just because he's taller.
Not sure what issues you think a backup PF taking mins from Hart is going to fix.
Agree with NYC-GUY prototypical size Randle has cost us far more vs undersized J-Hart. Hart’s size rarely has hurt us while guy like Randle perfectly sized is often out of position, late on rotations or doesn’t care. We need smart, tough, dependable vs guys that might look the part.
Now if we could steal a J- McDaniels from Minny - I’m down.
LivingLegend@ 11/25/2023 11:12 AM
SergioNYK wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Randall is great when he is going well. Bench piece, a forward who can move the ball and shoot it, who can be inserted when Randall is playing off his meds is essential.
Randle was so bad in the 3rd. I think those turnovers and effort spear headed the cHeat's run. But I'll give him credit, he was good in the 4th. He moved the ball and rebounded and did not try to play hero ball. But he's gotta chill with the turnovers. A lot of it is the cHeat's defense but he's a vet and needs to do better. You cannot hold onto the ball and spin or jump to pass against that team.
I thought he was on bench entire 4th until 3;30 left and Brunson.RJ.IQ finished game off.
Clean@ 11/25/2023 11:15 AM
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I think Heat scored only 2 points in that 3 minutes.
Alpha1971@ 11/25/2023 12:10 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Randall is great when he is going well. Bench piece, a forward who can move the ball and shoot it, who can be inserted when Randall is playing off his meds is essential.
Josh Hart is exactly that.
the issue to me is more can Randle ever be counted on to play well in the playoffs? If not he needs to be replaced period, he's not going to be benched for backups.
No Hart is not. Hart is a 2/3. Has always been to pretend he is a reliable back up 4 against good teams is a mistake.
The numbers dont support that, our defense and rebounding have been elite and we have yet to be outrebounded ANY game this year which is truly amazing.
This team is better having quickness on the perimeter defensively and guys that get at it on the boards like Hart and DDV vs someone else like Obi just because he's taller.
Not sure what issues you think a backup PF taking mins from Hart is going to fix.
Agree with NYC-GUY prototypical size Randle has cost us far more vs undersized J-Hart. Hart’s size rarely has hurt us while guy like Randle perfectly sized is often out of position, late on rotations or doesn’t care. We need smart, tough, dependable vs guys that might look the part.
Now if we could steal a J- McDaniels from Minny - I’m down.
Hart is best at the 2 or 3. Believe your eyes people... Get a good 6'7 - 6 "9" forward. Randall plays more then he needs to because we have no other size. Believe you eyes... When Hart is there at the 4 we are vulnerable against good teams. I didn't say any scrub. We have assets let's use them ideally. But at the very least get a player who can round out a five man unit who plays differently then Julius. Sure we can beat the Wizards and Hornets all day ... But we want to be able to beat the Timberwolves, Celtics, and even the Magic right ???? Be complacent if you want but I'm aiming for the team to have more versatility and effectiveness.
