Knicks · [Game Thread 12/23/23 @ 12:30PM] Knicks vs Bucks (page 2)

ToddTT @ 12/23/2023 2:26 PM
Rest RJ until… January.
BigDaddyG @ 12/23/2023 2:35 PM
Short A(R)m. J.
HofstraBBall @ 12/23/2023 2:43 PM
I remember when JHart consistently hit threes last year. (Except in the playoffs)
Ah....fond memories.
HofstraBBall @ 12/23/2023 2:43 PM
This is what a chip team looks like. EVERY player is a pro shooter.
HofstraBBall @ 12/23/2023 2:54 PM
ToddTT wrote:Rest RJ until… January.

Of what year?±

ramtour420 @ 12/23/2023 2:55 PM
We got whooped kinda
GustavBahler @ 12/23/2023 3:10 PM
Unfortunately it looks like some of RJ's progress was wiped out by those migraines. Hope he can get that confidence back. Unless he's still having them, it looks to be a confidence issue.
Clean @ 12/23/2023 3:11 PM
Could not watch the game but I see Randle had a good game against a top team. So I like that. Quick on the other hand had another bad game against a top team. Something to keep a watch for. If he wants that 25mil per he going to have to step up against good competition too.
nycericanguy @ 12/23/2023 3:29 PM
Clean wrote:Could not watch the game but I see Randle had a good game against a top team. So I like that. Quick on the other hand had another bad game against a top team. Something to keep a watch for. If he wants that 25mil per he going to have to step up against good competition too.

between this year and last years playoffs, IQ is showing he can't score against top defenses.

Brunson is really the only guy we have that can do it no matter what. We need a 2nd guy like that.

nycericanguy @ 12/23/2023 3:31 PM
We need to move RJ and IQ for a star, otherwise we are going to be paying them $50M+ combined.
LivingLegend @ 12/23/2023 4:03 PM
ToddTT wrote:

Only here for Todd’s pics and to support cheerleading across the globe.

LivingLegend @ 12/23/2023 4:05 PM
One day we can ALL tell our grandchildren we had a chance to witness RJ Barrett and his new shot-form pre Migraines
LivingLegend @ 12/23/2023 4:14 PM
Random thoughts……

- can Grimes shrink any further - going to be dwarf size soon
- Is IQ still dribbling the ball and are his blinders still on?
- I-Hart kind of played like I-Shart offensively today
- RJ is back and once again a Knick is tanking their trade value
- never once did it feel like the Knicks could control the game on defense/ including boards
- once again other team looks like 12 Steph Curry’s

LivingLegend @ 12/23/2023 4:16 PM
nycericanguy wrote:We need to move RJ and IQ for a star, otherwise we are going to be paying them $50M+ combined.

Knicks “hey we have 2 scrubs who are really killing their trade value but we’d gladly trade them for your star”

Clean @ 12/23/2023 4:23 PM

I wonder why we have 3 of their best 4 3pt shooting games this season.Could it be our scheme? Who knows.

ramtour420 @ 12/23/2023 4:54 PM
It feels like we are gonna only play against the Bucks for the rest of the season....this damn schedule
nycericanguy @ 12/23/2023 4:59 PM
Clean wrote:

I wonder why we have 3 of their best 4 3pt shooting games this season.Could it be our scheme? Who knows.

we struggle against teams with a floor spacing 5. BOS and MIL have killed us in large part b/c KP and Lopez

and of course those two teams are just flat out better than us.

KnickDanger @ 12/23/2023 8:24 PM
Clearly not in the same league with Bucks and Celtics, but not giving up hope because of that. Keep on growing.
blkexec @ 12/23/2023 8:39 PM
nycericanguy wrote:RJ & Randle 4 for 22

CANT BUILD A SOLID FOUNDATION
on top of two low efficient yet high volume 1 way scorers. Add in Brunson and now we have 3 offensive scorers who impacts with scoring and below average defenders.

Meaning, all it takes is one of the 3 to shoot a terrible % kills momentum because they are also on the floor the longest. This is where an OG type player who a low volume shooter and doesn’t need to high shooting attempts to impact the game.

We need to trade or move one of the 3 high volume scorers (RJ) to the bench. But our top 3 minutes players can’t all be low efficiency high volume scorers and below average defenders. OG fits and I’m sure there’s other low name wings that fit. Any high efficiency wing who’s above average defender.

Clean @ 12/23/2023 11:37 PM
blkexec wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:RJ & Randle 4 for 22

CANT BUILD A SOLID FOUNDATION
on top of two low efficient yet high volume 1 way scorers. Add in Brunson and now we have 3 offensive scorers who impacts with scoring and below average defenders.

Meaning, all it takes is one of the 3 to shoot a terrible % kills momentum because they are also on the floor the longest. This is where an OG type player who a low volume shooter and doesn’t need to high shooting attempts to impact the game.

We need to trade or move one of the 3 high volume scorers (RJ) to the bench. But our top 3 minutes players can’t all be low efficiency high volume scorers and below average defenders. OG fits and I’m sure there’s other low name wings that fit. Any high efficiency wing who’s above average defender.

You are starting to sound a lot like me. can't have 3 minus defenders in the starting lineup. can't have 3 high volume scorers each with a majority of the touches. 2 of the 3 are not consistantly good at spacing the floor so space is an issue when teams gameplan. Our best players just don't fit. They can get by in the regular season but once teams can gameplan things become infinitly harder.

HofstraBBall @ 12/24/2023 9:47 AM
blkexec wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:RJ & Randle 4 for 22

CANT BUILD A SOLID FOUNDATION
on top of two low efficient yet high volume 1 way scorers. Add in Brunson and now we have 3 offensive scorers who impacts with scoring and below average defenders.

Meaning, all it takes is one of the 3 to shoot a terrible % kills momentum because they are also on the floor the longest. This is where an OG type player who a low volume shooter and doesn’t need to high shooting attempts to impact the game.

We need to trade or move one of the 3 high volume scorers (RJ) to the bench. But our top 3 minutes players can’t all be low efficiency high volume scorers and below average defenders. OG fits and I’m sure there’s other low name wings that fit. Any high efficiency wing who’s above average defender.

Maybe.
But any good team needs a strong offensive player that plays down low, rebounds, draws double teams and is physical. Problem is Randle passes out to guys like RJ, JHart, Grimes etc. Low percentage 3pt shooters. And of course if you add MR, who clogs middle, Randle strengths can be taken away.
Agree that RJ is one dimensional. For now. Strong to basket but not much of anything else. His defense has improved this year though as has his free throw shooting. Already posted we need a upgrade at SF.
JB is definitely a high usage player. But feel he is elite and would be a key piece to any chip team. If you point to most high elite players in NBA, one can make the same complaint.
Easy to complain after playing a team that has a great chance of winning a chip.
Easy to say that changing one or two players would get us a chip. Don't see that
See a team that needs several pieces but is in the RIGHT direction. We have improved incrementally year over year . Especially in bringing in pieces that we needed. FO has done a great job making additions and then giving the new team a chance to show where other factors need to improve. No knee jerk fan Monday quarterbacking but instead careful patient analysis.
Think they are aware of needs and looking for sound solutions. Mainly, more consistent outside shooting.

Out of curiosity, who would you trade Randle and RJ for? What "more efficient" PG would you look to get?

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