Knicks · Hypothetical: Mitch for #6? (page 1)

martin @ 6/21/2024 1:22 PM
nycericanguy @ 6/21/2024 1:24 PM
I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value
EwingsGlass @ 6/21/2024 1:27 PM
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

nycericanguy @ 6/21/2024 1:30 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

Not many centers would command that kind of return, and certainly not an injury prone one with no offensive game. Centers aren't valued that much.

martin @ 6/21/2024 1:44 PM
nycericanguy wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

Not many centers would command that kind of return, and certainly not an injury prone one with no offensive game. Centers aren't valued that much.

It’s true. But you also have to consider their circumstance too. How else can you upgrade that position if Jonas leaves?

It’s a weak draft. No player they draft would help them in the short term. Mitch has a great contract.

What is their landscape for trading for another impact C?

I don’t know how teams value possible strong short term value versus a weak draft draftee at #6? Bird in hand with Mitch.

Minny grossly overpaid for a C and it kinda finally worked?

EwingsGlass @ 6/21/2024 1:44 PM
nycericanguy wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

Not many centers would command that kind of return, and certainly not an injury prone one with no offensive game. Centers aren't valued that much.

What player at 6 is better than Mitch? Not joking.

TheMTL @ 6/21/2024 1:45 PM
I still think Knicks need Mitch for certain matchups like Sixerrs.
EwingsGlass @ 6/21/2024 1:51 PM
TheMTL wrote:I still think Knicks need Mitch for certain matchups like Sixerrs.

You forget they are going to trade #6 and other assets for Embiid.

franco12 @ 6/21/2024 2:00 PM
Larry Nance 10 years ago would have been nice!
nycericanguy @ 6/21/2024 2:02 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

Not many centers would command that kind of return, and certainly not an injury prone one with no offensive game. Centers aren't valued that much.

What player at 6 is better than Mitch? Not joking.

IDK, i'm no scout, when it's all said and done i'm sure there will be quite a few better than Mitch available at #6. #6 picks have alot of value even in bad drafts.

nycericanguy @ 6/21/2024 2:03 PM
martin wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

Not many centers would command that kind of return, and certainly not an injury prone one with no offensive game. Centers aren't valued that much.

It’s true. But you also have to consider their circumstance too. How else can you upgrade that position if Jonas leaves?

It’s a weak draft. No player they draft would help them in the short term. Mitch has a great contract.

What is their landscape for trading for another impact C?

I don’t know how teams value possible strong short term value versus a weak draft draftee at #6? Bird in hand with Mitch.

Minny grossly overpaid for a C and it kinda finally worked?

I mean listen I hope so!... I'd do Mitch + 24 to more anywhere in the lotto as long as we had a good target there. Just don't see it.

newyorknewyork @ 6/21/2024 2:51 PM
Hornets have the #6 picks not the Pelicans. I am confused?
martin @ 6/21/2024 3:05 PM
martin @ 6/21/2024 3:06 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Hornets have the #6 picks not the Pelicans. I am confused?

Yeah, it’s a 2 trade deal in mock

BigDaddyG @ 6/21/2024 3:18 PM
martin wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

Not many centers would command that kind of return, and certainly not an injury prone one with no offensive game. Centers aren't valued that much.

It’s true. But you also have to consider their circumstance too. How else can you upgrade that position if Jonas leaves?

It’s a weak draft. No player they draft would help them in the short term. Mitch has a great contract.

What is their landscape for trading for another impact C?

I don’t know how teams value possible strong short term value versus a weak draft draftee at #6? Bird in hand with Mitch.

Minny grossly overpaid for a C and it kinda finally worked?

This goes both ways. I don't think the Knicks would want a lottery pick in this draft. Given their MO, I'd think the Knicks would want someone who could help them now (Thibs) or a pick down the line (Brock).

BigDaddyG @ 6/21/2024 3:20 PM
KnickDanger @ 6/21/2024 3:26 PM
If you're selling high on Mitch then maybe but coming off so many injuries? All just food for thought I know and we'll see what really happens.
Chandler @ 6/21/2024 3:58 PM
Centers will come back in vogue if they are great defenders
martin @ 6/21/2024 4:11 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I mean that's a no brainer but I don't see Mitch having that type of value

Why not?

Not many centers would command that kind of return, and certainly not an injury prone one with no offensive game. Centers aren't valued that much.

It’s true. But you also have to consider their circumstance too. How else can you upgrade that position if Jonas leaves?

It’s a weak draft. No player they draft would help them in the short term. Mitch has a great contract.

What is their landscape for trading for another impact C?

I don’t know how teams value possible strong short term value versus a weak draft draftee at #6? Bird in hand with Mitch.

Minny grossly overpaid for a C and it kinda finally worked?

This goes both ways. I don't think the Knicks would want a lottery pick in this draft. Given their MO, I'd think the Knicks would want someone who could help them now (Thibs) or a pick down the line (Brock).

100%

This would absolutely have to be that Kawhi trade up move type scenario.

franco12 @ 6/21/2024 4:27 PM
Mitch is getting paid $14M and then $13m the following year! That is just a smidge more than pick#6 which is something like $6.2m.

So even hurt, I think Mitch has great value to the right team, including the Knicks.

VDesai @ 6/21/2024 4:36 PM
What role does Stephen Castle play here? He wants to be a PG/wants the ball in his hands. If I'm trading Mitch it's not to move up in this draft IMO.
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