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Nalod @ 10/16/2024 10:27 PM
What a great game. Lynx defense is intense and they slammed the Libs up 16 in the 1st period. Libs grand it out.
Ionescue clutch threes were incredible in a record crowd in Minny. Stewart 30-10 game.
technomaster @ 10/17/2024 8:41 AM
That was some sick execution in the last 2 minutes to take the lead off an 8-0 run... that was after falling behind by 4 in a back and forth battle. The Liberty had a lot of TOs thought. The one I thought might break them was on inbounds after a time out, but they recovered.
Now we're one game away from a title.

BTW, I was just reading about how they put together a super team in 2023 - they have two former MVPs in Stewart (signed as FA) and Jones (traded) plus the pre-Caitlin Clark sensation Ionescu. Plus also picked up Vandersloot, a former all-star/all-WNBA player. I haven't looked up how the cap and salaries work in the WNBA... but with max salary peaking at around $240k, it seems as if players are banking on the extra exposure from the NY Media to squeeze out sponsorship deals.

Nalod @ 10/17/2024 8:56 AM
technomaster wrote:That was some sick execution in the last 2 minutes to take the lead off an 8-0 run... that was after falling behind by 4 in a back and forth battle. The Liberty had a lot of TOs thought. The one I thought might break them was on inbounds after a time out, but they recovered.
Now we're one game away from a title.

BTW, I was just reading about how they put together a super team in 2023 - they have two former MVPs in Stewart (signed as FA) and Jones (traded) plus the pre-Caitlin Clark sensation Ionescu. Plus also picked up Vandersloot, a former all-star/all-WNBA player. I haven't looked up how the cap and salaries work in the WNBA... but with max salary peaking at around $240k, it seems as if players are banking on the extra exposure from the NY Media to squeeze out sponsorship deals.

Many of these girls play overseas in the winter and earn more money also. Minny has had 4 championships and they just broke their own attendance record. No Clark on the court drawing. The TV ratings have been good even without her.
Im not suggesting the WNBA is on the verge becoming a major sport. But its drawing in new fans and some of those will also tune in on the NBA if they did not previously. Are these games of interest overseas? Maybe a bit.
Lots of girls tuning in, and perhaps the sport of the LBGT crowd. Little girls see this and are playing more basketball.

Womens tennis is not about them being better than men, but its a more fundamental version than the power men have. Its different.
Womens golf? They are playing the course so its not the same.

I think I have watched about 10 WNBA games this season including the playoffs. Mostly Aces and Liberty.
Was fun watching Clark this season but Lexi Hull is not too bad herself!!!

WNBA has taken a long view and seems to be succeeding slowly.

technomaster @ 10/17/2024 12:58 PM
Nalod wrote:
technomaster wrote:That was some sick execution in the last 2 minutes to take the lead off an 8-0 run... that was after falling behind by 4 in a back and forth battle. The Liberty had a lot of TOs thought. The one I thought might break them was on inbounds after a time out, but they recovered.
Now we're one game away from a title.

BTW, I was just reading about how they put together a super team in 2023 - they have two former MVPs in Stewart (signed as FA) and Jones (traded) plus the pre-Caitlin Clark sensation Ionescu. Plus also picked up Vandersloot, a former all-star/all-WNBA player. I haven't looked up how the cap and salaries work in the WNBA... but with max salary peaking at around $240k, it seems as if players are banking on the extra exposure from the NY Media to squeeze out sponsorship deals.

Many of these girls play overseas in the winter and earn more money also. Minny has had 4 championships and they just broke their own attendance record. No Clark on the court drawing. The TV ratings have been good even without her.
Im not suggesting the WNBA is on the verge becoming a major sport. But its drawing in new fans and some of those will also tune in on the NBA if they did not previously. Are these games of interest overseas? Maybe a bit.
Lots of girls tuning in, and perhaps the sport of the LBGT crowd. Little girls see this and are playing more basketball.

Womens tennis is not about them being better than men, but its a more fundamental version than the power men have. Its different.
Womens golf? They are playing the course so its not the same.

I think I have watched about 10 WNBA games this season including the playoffs. Mostly Aces and Liberty.
Was fun watching Clark this season but Lexi Hull is not too bad herself!!!

WNBA has taken a long view and seems to be succeeding slowly.

I would say that if not for the spillover buzz from Caitlin Clark, I probably wouldn't be paying much attention to the WNBA. All of the buzz around Clark vs Reese spilled into social media, helping to spark greater awareness and familiarity.

The Liberty were in the finals last year and everyone on the superteam was already in place, but I'm pretty sure I watched 0 minutes of the WNBA playoffs and the entire season, and probably tuned out when it was mentioned on SportsCenter as if it were little league world series highlights.

This year, I watched chunks of the prior round and big bits of the finals,and have been tracking scores. Last night, I cared enough to research how we managed to acquire 2 MVPs - and learned that we are indeed a super team. And I learned that Stewart is pretty much the winningest player of all time across every level. Yeah
Some seeds were planted at the NBA all-star festivities when Ionescu took on Curry in a 3pt shooting contest.

All little bits of exposure, woven together. Heck, I even became aware of that the women in a car commercial were WNBA players... and that the State Farm guy is besties with Caitlin Clark.

All weird.

The last time I paid attention to the Liberty was back when Rebecca Lobo was on the team and we had the two Weatherspoons. (Funny that Theresa was Angel Reese's coach in Chicago, but was just fired) Oh actually, I paid a little bit of attention to Becky Hammon's teams - or at least was aware she was our PG. But hey, we ran into her as an asst coach for the Spurs, and it turns out she is now coach of the LV Aces (the team we beat in the prior round).

The thing is, maybe I'm a fan now. I have some knowledge of the history and "mythology" of some of the players.

I agree with you - there's something about the women's game that's cool - lots of fundamentally sound play. In the NBA, the freak athletes put in awe of something unattainable. No, I can never even imagine dunking like even the worst dunker in the league.

In the WNBA, there are some tall players that dominate with post up skills, but the players that are most impressive are the ones you play a bit more like Steph or Doncic - elite motors, killer footwork, ability to change directions on a dime, great skills and fundamentals.

These are things I can still strive for and incorporate into my play as a now 50yo 5'7" guy with shoulder pain. :)

DLeethal @ 10/17/2024 1:03 PM
I read Phil Jackson talk about how the women's game is a much more pure basketball game then the men's game and watching some of the WNBA playoffs I agree. The teamwork, fundamentals, cohesion is much more apparent than it is in the NBA. It's like when you take the dominant athleticism component out of the game what you are left with is the purest form of the game itself.
Nalod @ 10/17/2024 1:39 PM
I did watch some college march madness the last few years. The Hull twins and Cameron Brink were very successful. Brink defense at 6-4 I did not think would translate but Sparks took second and she was making an impact but got hurt real early.
Uconn girls are amazing program and newsworthy.

Last nights game was a good one! Lynx defense on Liberty is impressive. Ionescue passing and eventual heroics were impressive.
WNBA understands the impact of having a successful team in NY.

martin @ 10/17/2024 4:42 PM
EwingsGlass @ 10/17/2024 8:53 PM
martin wrote:

Stay humble.

Knicksfan @ 10/18/2024 3:34 AM
martin wrote:

Yeah, let’s just not mention the Giants right now…

martin @ 10/18/2024 8:47 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:

Stay humble.

Challenge accepted!

Rookie @ 10/18/2024 4:12 PM
Libert Finals or NYK Preseason game on at the same time - who you watching. The Liberty are fun and this series has been played tough. I’m watching the preseason game though. Knicks are my ride or die team
Knicksfan @ 10/18/2024 5:03 PM
Rookie wrote:Libert Finals or NYK Preseason game on at the same time - who you watching. The Liberty are fun and this series has been played tough. I’m watching the preseason game though. Knicks are my ride or die team

Both

martin @ 10/18/2024 6:46 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
Rookie wrote:Libert Finals or NYK Preseason game on at the same time - who you watching. The Liberty are fun and this series has been played tough. I’m watching the preseason game though. Knicks are my ride or die team

Both

Spoken like a man who has also already perfected dual screen setups with OnlyFans and PornHub both going at once, kudos!

BigDaddyG @ 10/18/2024 8:20 PM
martin wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:

Stay humble.

Challenge accepted!

Let's go Mets!

Rookie @ 10/18/2024 9:42 PM
Game on 4th Q. 2pt gameplay
GustavBahler @ 10/18/2024 10:08 PM
Damn
Clean @ 10/20/2024 8:32 AM
The best thing that could have happened to the Lib is me becoming a Fever fan. My teams never win so now they actually have a chance to win. I am actually going for the Lynx this series. Stewie was one of those girls trying to smear CC so I got to root against her even though I like Sab and Jonquel.
SergioNYK @ 10/20/2024 9:48 AM
Crazy the cheapest ticket to this game tonight is $166.
martin @ 10/20/2024 10:36 AM
Clean wrote:The best thing that could have happened to the Lib is me becoming a Fever fan. My teams never win so now they actually have a chance to win. I am actually going for the Lynx this series. Stewie was one of those girls trying to smear CC so I got to root against her even though I like Sab and Jonquel.

You go to games to catch?

Clean @ 10/20/2024 12:01 PM
martin wrote:
Clean wrote:The best thing that could have happened to the Lib is me becoming a Fever fan. My teams never win so now they actually have a chance to win. I am actually going for the Lynx this series. Stewie was one of those girls trying to smear CC so I got to root against her even though I like Sab and Jonquel.

You go to games to catch?

Never been to a WNBA game. Been super a casual fan that tunes in for the playoffs until this season. So casual that I never thought of going to the games. I watched the playoffs last season and of course the Libs lost in the finals. Watched the Libs because im from NY and I liked Sab but was never really a hardcore fan. Caitlin somehow roped me into being a Fever fan to the point that I care about them second only to the Knicks. The sad thing is that now I am no longer a casual I pay attention to everything and I can see how the WNBA old guard works so it turned me off to a lot of players and teams.

martin @ 10/20/2024 12:27 PM
Clean wrote:
martin wrote:
Clean wrote:The best thing that could have happened to the Lib is me becoming a Fever fan. My teams never win so now they actually have a chance to win. I am actually going for the Lynx this series. Stewie was one of those girls trying to smear CC so I got to root against her even though I like Sab and Jonquel.

You go to games to catch?

Never been to a WNBA game. Been super a casual fan that tunes in for the playoffs until this season. So casual that I never thought of going to the games. I watched the playoffs last season and of course the Libs lost in the finals. Watched the Libs because im from NY and I liked Sab but was never really a hardcore fan. Caitlin somehow roped me into being a Fever fan to the point that I care about them second only to the Knicks. The sad thing is that now I am no longer a casual I pay attention to everything and I can see how the WNBA old guard works so it turned me off to a lot of players and teams.

Go to a game and take it in! Maybe the tides turn to gold for you.

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