Knicks · Game Thread: Knicks @ Pelicans 8PM (page 4)

LivingLegend @ 12/22/2024 10:59 AM
martin wrote:Nice

He did and unfortunately Kat played like BAD KAT all night --- poor decisions, hacking and whining for soft fouls all night.

Thibs is playing Precious/Sims off each other and if one or the other doesn't bring great energy they get benched and next guy steps in.

LivingLegend @ 12/22/2024 11:02 AM
JesseDark wrote:Watched the game then looked at the box score and saw that Mikal Bridges played 45 minutes and didn’t have a single rebound. Seems odd to me to be on the court that long and not get a rebound.

I'll guess that he also had <2 FT attempts as well but he played pretty damn well and made some key buckets.

He's not a rebounder or free throw shooter and he dribbles/passes the ball like its a hand grenade but he's pretty damn good.

LivingLegend @ 12/22/2024 11:06 AM
My immediate thoughts watching this game....

- why does it always seem refs let other team be way more physical against us than us against them
- Kat 1st poor game/effort in a long time
- Jalen was pissing me off in 1st half and MAGNIFICENT in 2nd half
- OG playing on skates, shooting bricks all over and great on D
- Pelicans so athletic --- would love any of Herb, Murphy, Hawkins, Missi

martin @ 12/22/2024 11:23 AM
Knicksfan wrote:We keep having issues starting the game and I’m gonna say it: the starting lineup looks more balanced with Precious out there. Thibs is too stubborn so maybe in a few years unless we get a real PF. I love Hart, but he can still be a weapon off the bench. It’s just not great with OG at the 4 to me because he isn’t really a PF.

Ok win, I guess, thanks to Brun!

Precious only 7 games back after missing 20. It’ll take him another 10+ games to even find a groove no less fit in the bigger scheme of things.

I wouldn’t even expect anything to be considered until late January. That’ll be the crux point IMHO

martin @ 12/22/2024 11:24 AM
VDesai wrote:I like distributor Brunson, but I love I'm gonna take over the game and win it Brunson

Man Brunson is impressive and he and KAT have barely scratched the surface. Those dudes gonna be Knicks Gone Wild next year

martin @ 12/22/2024 11:29 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Is Herb auditioning to become a Knicks player? Hopefully

I love Herb but man that was some stat line he put up tonight.

True! I havent watched game yet, is he a better point of attack defender than Mikal?

martin @ 12/22/2024 11:42 AM
It’s a thing?

martin @ 12/22/2024 11:43 AM
Oh, not bad then

martin @ 12/22/2024 11:58 AM
Nalod @ 12/22/2024 12:07 PM
VDesai wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:Toronto & SA are next @ MSG, they are combined 5-18 on the road. Magic might have lost MO, then Wash Wash Utah. Keep eating Knicks.

Christmas day - national game - highlight game for the NBA's new star Wembanyama. Deck will he stacked against us by the league. Focus on winning the Toronto game - no let downs. Barnes is back.

Silver sitting in his lair, dressed head to toe in his evil black tunic with a white cat on his lap. No fur on him though. A wall of TV monitors adrorn his wall. He is Blowfeld from Ian Flemings James Bond. His bald resemblance to Dr Evil not lost on him but little he can do. There is no "Mini-Me" and he is not an idiot. Still, he smirks to himself in his swivel chair with fixed Botton console for convenience as is the preference for such super wealthy evil doers. He takes great comfort of his control that he can simply flip a switch and his minions in Secaucus New Jersey, just a few miles away from the NBA offices were the real power exists, he can control the out come of any game in the NBA. Fans the world over thinks refs are crooked or motivated by gambling opportunities. Not at all. Silver had cranial implants installed into each ref and can simply speak commands into the minds of a ref.
Silver alone in his thoughts thinks of all the fans in MSG for the 12noon start. Yes, 20,000 fans obediently in there seats and not home Christmas morning, instead getting currency drained in the worlds most famous arena paying hundreds of not thousands per seat to pay homage to the magnificent gods that stand tall and can fly in the air! In San Antonio it is 11am. children Still in pajamas playing with toys, parents enjoying the family time and all the while Silver plots............How to introduce the Alien, the one from the land of Fred Weis to America!

"I'll fuck over the fans in Manhattan! it is what is expected of me from paranoid knick fans anyway! No matter a contending team in NY is good for the league, no, I"ll defy logic and common sense and control the game from my perch of conspiracy! Down 28%? Ha I'll show them. Wemby will succeed and what of the knick fans? No doubt they will forget this little display as they go back to smoking weed and indulging in the luxury of gifts and food. All he while, millions of fans will be in awe and adapt Wemby as the new Lebron and ask for his jersey, sneakers, and use his dandruff shampoo. Rinse, Lather, Rinse, repeat! Muhahahahaha!

He looks over to the corner of his room and confers with his top advisor. Not a human, but a curious looking device with a glass dome with lights and probes filled with a thick liquid preserving what is David Sterns brain!. Flipping a switch from his cool arm console and speaking into a very thin microphone attached to a very graceful and even elegant extension that elevates the microphone from the console he speaks "David, can we make wemby into the new Jordan?" Sterns response is not in his voice as we remember it. Silver had it changed from a nasal NY accent to one more elegant. He chose an AI version of Hugh Grant. While not the most elegant or one that exudes authority he wanted one that was of the people and easy to dismiss if he choose to ignore the advice. Silver ponders the choice and instead looks at the menu of other voices he could use. Gilbert Godfrey? too grating? Marv Albert? No, Dolan is not listening so thats not the best, Trump? Too embellishing, He settles on Doris Burke as her words are tonally soothing. "Adam, He is French, and while thats a good thing the German Market won't respect him enough. The Brits, well, they too won't respect the Frenchman so the best way to promote him is to continue making him a Texan. After all, thats why we put him in Texas. In time We'll get him traded to the Los Angeles, not the Lakers, thats too cliche, we owe Balmer one."
Silver agrees then asks "David, what of the Knicks, we say were are fans, but......", The Brain responds: "We gave Charles Dolan Ewing. We did open a window for them when we suspended Jordan but most unfortunate Hakeem came to power! Just so much we can do! Try as we did to remove Dolan we do owe them and its good for the league. Im thinking we get OKC one, then knicks. Spurs are a still a year away but we'll do his ACL, then get him traded to LA, in 5 years. Spurs can afford more heart ache. Knicks can't."

VDesai @ 12/22/2024 12:20 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
VDesai wrote:OG has been dreadful on offense for s few weeks now

He looks like an NFL defensive end dribbling the ball sometimes and the falling is just crazy --- on the defensive end however he is so balanced and physical (so good).

Mikal traded broke offensive games with OG. After the 40 point game they decide to switch.

That said OGs defense especially in the 2nd half was incredible. He gets into these spurts where he will go like 4 or 5 possessions in a row fucking up everything. He is just such an insane weapon - especially when he does that to close games down the stretch like in the playoffs last year. He must absorb film because he knows where everyone is gonna go with the ball

NYStateOfMind @ 12/22/2024 12:38 PM
My thoughts, I've observed his play the past 2 weeks and think he has great positioning when not going under the pick but he also avoids reckless jumping and contact. I think it has been key to his Ironman streak, so I accept it. If he attacked the rim harder and looked for contact instead of fade shots, that would increase his chances of injury. On one play he was trailing the play and if he went all out could have done a Lebron block from behind, but would have probably gone into the crowd or landed on someone or the floor.

Availability is the best ability and his play reflects that. You take the small bad for the greater good. Hart, JB, & OG play pinball b-ball and often wind up on the floor or land on someone's foot. Healthy 82 games at 85-90% or 60-65 games at 95-100% and possibly hurt for the playoffs, pick your poison? Just my opinion.

LivingLegend wrote:
JesseDark wrote:Watched the game then looked at the box score and saw that Mikal Bridges played 45 minutes and didn’t have a single rebound. Seems odd to me to be on the court that long and not get a rebound.

I'll guess that he also had <2 FT attempts as well but he played pretty damn well and made some key buckets.

He's not a rebounder or free throw shooter and he dribbles/passes the ball like its a hand grenade but he's pretty damn good.

martin @ 12/22/2024 12:49 PM
martin @ 12/22/2024 1:10 PM
NYStateOfMind wrote:My thoughts, I've observed his play the past 2 weeks and think he has great positioning when not going under the pick but he also avoids reckless jumping and contact. I think it has been key to his Ironman streak, so I accept it. If he attacked the rim harder and looked for contact instead of fade shots, that would increase his chances of injury. On one play he was trailing the play and if he went all out could have done a Lebron block from behind, but would have probably gone into the crowd or landed on someone or the floor.

Availability is the best ability and his play reflects that. You take the small bad for the greater good. Hart, JB, & OG play pinball b-ball and often wind up on the floor or land on someone's foot. Healthy 82 games at 85-90% or 60-65 games at 95-100% and possibly hurt for the playoffs, pick your poison? Just my opinion.

LivingLegend wrote:
JesseDark wrote:Watched the game then looked at the box score and saw that Mikal Bridges played 45 minutes and didn’t have a single rebound. Seems odd to me to be on the court that long and not get a rebound.

I'll guess that he also had <2 FT attempts as well but he played pretty damn well and made some key buckets.

He's not a rebounder or free throw shooter and he dribbles/passes the ball like its a hand grenade but he's pretty damn good.

Interesting, good thought

VDesai @ 12/22/2024 3:28 PM
NYStateOfMind wrote:My thoughts, I've observed his play the past 2 weeks and think he has great positioning when not going under the pick but he also avoids reckless jumping and contact. I think it has been key to his Ironman streak, so I accept it. If he attacked the rim harder and looked for contact instead of fade shots, that would increase his chances of injury. On one play he was trailing the play and if he went all out could have done a Lebron block from behind, but would have probably gone into the crowd or landed on someone or the floor.

Availability is the best ability and his play reflects that. You take the small bad for the greater good. Hart, JB, & OG play pinball b-ball and often wind up on the floor or land on someone's foot. Healthy 82 games at 85-90% or 60-65 games at 95-100% and possibly hurt for the playoffs, pick your poison? Just my opinion.

LivingLegend wrote:
JesseDark wrote:Watched the game then looked at the box score and saw that Mikal Bridges played 45 minutes and didn’t have a single rebound. Seems odd to me to be on the court that long and not get a rebound.

I'll guess that he also had <2 FT attempts as well but he played pretty damn well and made some key buckets.

He's not a rebounder or free throw shooter and he dribbles/passes the ball like its a hand grenade but he's pretty damn good.


I think you are right, but its still an anomaly for a guy averaging 17-18 ppg to only be getting about 0.5 pts from the FT line. Thats less than 3 pct of his points from FT. Thats gotta be one of the lowest percentages ever for someone getting double digit PPG.

LivingLegend @ 12/22/2024 5:01 PM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Is Herb auditioning to become a Knicks player? Hopefully

I love Herb but man that was some stat line he put up tonight.

True! I havent watched game yet, is he a better point of attack defender than Mikal?

Yes he is IMO --- better laterally, better knee bend and also a lefty which helps contesting jump shots from right handed players.

Offensively he's a bit hit or miss.

LivingLegend @ 12/22/2024 5:03 PM
martin wrote:Oh, not bad then

Something really clicked early-mid 3rd quarter (?) and all of a sudden we were all flying around on D AND on offensive end (outside of Brunson dominance) we had a lot of nice cuts/movement that we would need vs top teams.

LivingLegend @ 12/22/2024 5:04 PM
VDesai wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
VDesai wrote:OG has been dreadful on offense for s few weeks now

He looks like an NFL defensive end dribbling the ball sometimes and the falling is just crazy --- on the defensive end however he is so balanced and physical (so good).

Mikal traded broke offensive games with OG. After the 40 point game they decide to switch.

That said OGs defense especially in the 2nd half was incredible. He gets into these spurts where he will go like 4 or 5 possessions in a row fucking up everything. He is just such an insane weapon - especially when he does that to close games down the stretch like in the playoffs last year. He must absorb film because he knows where everyone is gonna go with the ball

When OG reaches in -- the ball is coming out and if he doesn't get it on 1st or 2nd swipe he or someone else comes out with it on 3rd try.

martin @ 12/22/2024 5:12 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Is Herb auditioning to become a Knicks player? Hopefully

I love Herb but man that was some stat line he put up tonight.

True! I havent watched game yet, is he a better point of attack defender than Mikal?

Yes he is IMO --- better laterally, better knee bend and also a lefty which helps contesting jump shots from right handed players.

Offensively he's a bit hit or miss.

Ha so a perfect Knicks wing

martin @ 12/22/2024 5:34 PM
Nalod @ 12/22/2024 9:17 PM
I enjoyed the Nola guys that called the game. They complimented their team when they did well, and were very positive on knicks and were well informed. They loved Former Pelican josh hart!
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