Knixkik wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:Luka to the lakers. What a gift for them. It’s not a knock on AD, but this trade completely bailed them out from what things may look like in a few years when lebron is gone and AD is declining. Luka sets them up for the foreseeable future. Suddenly they can trade their future picks for upgrades without holding their breath. No situation like the Suns are in. Luka changes it all. I get the conditioning concerns, but it’s a gamble you take. This trade is even more lopsided than Randle and Donte for KAT. No matter how smart these execs are, the dumb franchises seem to make questionable decisions when it’s all said and done.
Don't quite me on this, but the Lakers don't have much control of their picks either. I'm curious how they build the rest of their roster out.
They will continue to gain future picks each year. Guys will want to go there. It’s not going to be hard for them to build out the roster for the most part.
Unless they trade LeBron or Reaves, which probably won't happen, I don't see a path for them to replenish the roster quickly. They only have one pick left to trade this year. And that roster has a lot of holes. As for the guys wanting to there, guys wanted to go there before the trade.But the new CBA makes it difficult to draw in anyone of consequence.
BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:Luka to the lakers. What a gift for them. It’s not a knock on AD, but this trade completely bailed them out from what things may look like in a few years when lebron is gone and AD is declining. Luka sets them up for the foreseeable future. Suddenly they can trade their future picks for upgrades without holding their breath. No situation like the Suns are in. Luka changes it all. I get the conditioning concerns, but it’s a gamble you take. This trade is even more lopsided than Randle and Donte for KAT. No matter how smart these execs are, the dumb franchises seem to make questionable decisions when it’s all said and done.
Don't quite me on this, but the Lakers don't have much control of their picks either. I'm curious how they build the rest of their roster out.
They will continue to gain future picks each year. Guys will want to go there. It’s not going to be hard for them to build out the roster for the most part.
Unless they trade LeBron or Reaves, which probably won't happen, I don't see a path for them to replenish the roster quickly. They only have one pick left to trade this year. And that roster has a lot of holes. As for the guys wanting to there, guys wanted to go there before the trade.But the new CBA makes it difficult to draw in anyone of consequence.
We are talking about a team that landed Luka out of nowhere. There will always be GMs that take pennies on the dollar and different was to fill out a roster when you have a player like Luka. And I’m not saying this year, I’m talking future years.
Whiny b!tch on the court, classy off it.
Yes, it's nice for the Lakers now and in the future. And no, we could not have traded Mitchell Robinson fur him. Not even if we included Sims.
ramtour420 wrote:Yes, it's nice for the Lakers now and in the future. And no, we could not have traded Mitchell Robinson fur him. Not even if we included Sims.
Probably not, but this certainly proves it never hurts to ask!
Did LA just pay cash under the table to the execs in Dallas that made this deal ?
Alpha1971 wrote:Did LA just pay cash under the table to the execs in Dallas that made this deal ?
I'd guess that they got something from the NBA front office.
Dallas saw Luka as a risk.
If they win a chip with AD, then it makes sense.
this trade is not as lopsided as thought. Dallas devalued Luka for a reason. Anyone think Zion and Pels love happily ever after?
They too will get cents on the dollar. If Zion, or Luka were seen as an albatross potential then you move on.
Luka next 5 years might not be so kind to him.
BigDaddyG wrote:Whiny b!tch on the court, classy off it.
Nice PR job. he still had to approve it. Nothing wrong.
BigDaddyG wrote:Philc1 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:Luka to the lakers. What a gift for them. It’s not a knock on AD, but this trade completely bailed them out from what things may look like in a few years when lebron is gone and AD is declining. Luka sets them up for the foreseeable future. Suddenly they can trade their future picks for upgrades without holding their breath. No situation like the Suns are in. Luka changes it all. I get the conditioning concerns, but it’s a gamble you take. This trade is even more lopsided than Randle and Donte for KAT. No matter how smart these execs are, the dumb franchises seem to make questionable decisions when it’s all said and done.
Don't quite me on this, but the Lakers don't have much control of their picks either. I'm curious how they build the rest of their roster out.
They have Luka, Lebron and Hachimura that’s a pretty darn good 3 to have as a roster foundation. The heat were able to win championships with guys like The Birdman coming off the street as bench role players
Hach is mid and is clearly behind Reaves in terms of importance. And now they're even worse defensively. I don't see them challenging OKC this year. The year after? You really want to forecast the future with a 40 y/o who could leave? Also, the Lakers couldn't even build properly with AD and LeBron. We're so supposed to think Pelinka is going to up his game now?
Lebron is going nowhere especially now that Luka is there. His son is on the team, he wants to be in movies and it’s LA. I’m sure Silver isn’t done sending more players to the lakers in bs asinine trades.
Alpha1971 wrote:Did LA just pay cash under the table to the execs in Dallas that made this deal ?
Mavs will luckily win the draft lottery at least twice next 5-7 years.
Nalod wrote:Dallas saw Luka as a risk.
If they win a chip with AD, then it makes sense.
this trade is not as lopsided as thought. Dallas devalued Luka for a reason. Anyone think Zion and Pels love happily ever after?
They too will get cents on the dollar. If Zion, or Luka were seen as an albatross potential then you move on.
Luka next 5 years might not be so kind to him.
Luka is 6’6 230 Zion is 6’6 290. Luka went to a NBA Finaks last season. Zion has never sniffed a NBA Finals. Zion has played 65 or more games one season his entire career. Luka has done it 5 out of the first 6 seasons of his career.
Yeah totally the same guy.
So what can the Lakers gives us for Mitch?
ToddTT wrote:So what can the Lakers gives us for Mitch?
A highly protected future second
Nalod wrote:Dallas saw Luka as a risk.
If they win a chip with AD, then it makes sense.
this trade is not as lopsided as thought. Dallas devalued Luka for a reason. Anyone think Zion and Pels love happily ever after?
They too will get cents on the dollar. If Zion, or Luka were seen as an albatross potential then you move on.
Luka next 5 years might not be so kind to him.
Risk meaning health?
Don’t think Dallas trading Luka had anything to do with how Dallas viewed his game or future health risk. Nor the size of his contract. If so, a mistake imo.
He is a top 4 All NBA player who is 25. and who will be the face of any franchise (NBA) for years to come.
Not sure if it is what you meant, but the only thing I feel Dallas could have been worried about, was NO contract after next year.
No one knows what went on behind the scenes but they may have had some info on his intent to not extend.
If so, They quickly pivoted to getting back another All NBA player who can still give them a chance to win the chip and who has more years under contract.
ToddTT wrote:So what can the Lakers gives us for Mitch?
I would love to look at a Vanderbilt/Mitch deal if they'd be open. We could use Vanderbilt as an OG protection play. Both are injury risks, maybe this works because they really need a 5 man and we need someone who can swing at PF and guard the perimeter behind OG.
Seeing the Supermax numbers!!
how do you build a team around a supermax guy at like 70/year?
Biggest problem if you are a Mav fans is not the WHY but the HOW.
Not reaching out to any other team is strange.
Alpha1971 wrote:Did LA just pay cash under the table to the execs in Dallas that made this deal ?
this is the only thing worth discussing, and how much.
This is not a basketball trade.. this is a cash trade. We know the Mavs ownership doesnt really care about the BB team. Cuban is out. Someone from that side sold Luka to the Lakers. My guess is 200-300mm in cash value. Would not be surprised if real estate or other assets included.
From everything I've read, it seems like Dallas management believes Luka is going to end up like Embiid/LAC version of Kawhi and they didn't want to commit long term. Which is fine and their right to do what they think is best. The issue is only trading with the Lakers and not even entertaining offers from other teams. It looks really suspect and I think there would be a good chance the trade gets vetoed if David Stern was still alive and running things. But we all know Adam Silver is a cuck and gutless.
AD is a really REALLY good player and without a doubt a future HOFer but he's 6 years old and at the tail end of his career. It might be a decent trade for Dallas for a year or two but their window is extremely short. They are also banking on that psycho Kyrie being on his best behavior. I don't like their odds.
Ultimately I hate this trade for Dallas and love it for the Lakers. Guys like Luka do not come around often. He's a generational talent. He's not perfect and I'm fully aware of the weight issues and the lack of 100% commitment to his craft but the talent is there and it's not like he hasn't produced. He almost won a ring last season! This also sets up the Lakers for life after LeBum. The hardest thing to do, as we all know here, when you're building a team is getting the main guy and they have it. Everything else from co-star, to supporting cast to finding guys that just fit are much easier now. Call it luck but teams just always seem to help the Lakers. Just wait for the next few days when some team gifts them a good Center for peanuts.
VDesai wrote:ToddTT wrote:So what can the Lakers gives us for Mitch?
I would love to look at a Vanderbilt/Mitch deal if they'd be open. We could use Vanderbilt as an OG protection play. Both are injury risks, maybe this works because they really need a 5 man and we need someone who can swing at PF and guard the perimeter behind OG.
We are not helping the Lakers! F them! If we are trading Mitch, we need a Center in return.
