Clean wrote:I never seen anything like whas happened to OG. He was playihg like he normally does and one day said F this I am a superstar and been kiling it on both ends.
sure you have... Julius Randle comes to mind. Decent player. Under Thibs 2x all NBA and 3x all star in 4 years.
For a long time I never ever thought I'd ever see a 50 win season and now we've had back to back 50 win seasons! Do not take this granted Knicks fans! Winning is hard! This is a huge accomplishment and you should be proud!
OG is playing on another planet these last few weeks! He's doing stuff I never thought he was able to do! That cross over and dunk was just insane! And his three point shot is in a zone right now! I've seen enough! He's a flat out Super Star! Credit to him for his hard work and credit to the coaching staff for his development cause he was not doing this in Toronto. Loved RJ and IQ but this was such a great trade.
So good to have our Cap back! Brunson was rusty as expected but didn't force it and made a clutch 3 like he always does. KAT was dominant in that first half and it's so frustrating how he never gets calls when he drives and gets bumped or hit. Bridges with 20 and got to the line 4 times and hit 2 threes which is a bonus. And great to have Deuce back as well! Looks like the 9 player rotation is set!
fishmike wrote:Clean wrote:I never seen anything like whas happened to OG. He was playihg like he normally does and one day said F this I am a superstar and been kiling it on both ends.
sure you have... Julius Randle comes to mind. Decent player. Under Thibs 2x all NBA and 3x all star in 4 years.
Remember he was already starting to do some of this in December. He was getting 20 ppg on 50/40/80 and capped with that 40 bag against Denver, which was one of his best games. And then after that his legs seemed to go and he went on rollerskates. January was bad, he missed most of Feb with the injury and now he is back on track. Aside from keeping his balance and having his legs, I think the biggest thing he's learned to do is use his physicality to finish more effectively. And right now he has that 3 ball confidence again. What an amazing development here...
I think the biggest difference is OG is applying what makes him great defensively to offense. OG's combination of wingspan with stoutness is kind of unmatched. He is strong as a bull and can make himself wide/cover ground. It makes his drives to the basket difficult to stop, because a singular defender can't defend that width/strength. Now he is learning how to draw contact and its making his finishing better and drawing more fouls. The way he is getting to the basket reminds me of Giannis to some degree.
But beyond that, this great scoring is allowing him to be more of a playmaker. And he's hitting 3's and FTs at a great rate. Already one of the 5 best defenders in basketball. Now his contract is starting to look like a bargain!
2 games short of his career high too...
BTW Suns shot 4/34 from 3....got a little lucky!
VDesai wrote:fishmike wrote:Clean wrote:I never seen anything like whas happened to OG. He was playihg like he normally does and one day said F this I am a superstar and been kiling it on both ends.
sure you have... Julius Randle comes to mind. Decent player. Under Thibs 2x all NBA and 3x all star in 4 years.
Remember he was already starting to do some of this in December. He was getting 20 ppg on 50/40/80 and capped with that 40 bag against Denver, which was one of his best games. And then after that his legs seemed to go and he went on rollerskates. January was bad, he missed most of Feb with the injury and now he is back on track. Aside from keeping his balance and having his legs, I think the biggest thing he's learned to do is use his physicality to finish more effectively. And right now he has that 3 ball confidence again. What an amazing development here...
100%... we didnt see ANY of the bully-ball OG in Toronto or when he came last year. VDesai despite my Thibs-homer posting I do not think he's infallible or doesn't make mistakes. However it's ridiculous to me to listen the same guys complain about this coach for playing a guy 38 minutes vs. 33 minutes like that's gonna submarine our season. Meanwhile at the same time said player is unlocking new levels blossoming under said coach. It's more a balance thing
Thibs isnt perfect but he pushes these guys and the result is THEY GET BETTER. It's wild because our FO gets the right kind of guys. I honestly expect something similar from Mikal next year
fishmike wrote:VDesai wrote:fishmike wrote:Clean wrote:I never seen anything like whas happened to OG. He was playihg like he normally does and one day said F this I am a superstar and been kiling it on both ends.
sure you have... Julius Randle comes to mind. Decent player. Under Thibs 2x all NBA and 3x all star in 4 years.
Remember he was already starting to do some of this in December. He was getting 20 ppg on 50/40/80 and capped with that 40 bag against Denver, which was one of his best games. And then after that his legs seemed to go and he went on rollerskates. January was bad, he missed most of Feb with the injury and now he is back on track. Aside from keeping his balance and having his legs, I think the biggest thing he's learned to do is use his physicality to finish more effectively. And right now he has that 3 ball confidence again. What an amazing development here...
100%... we didnt see ANY of the bully-ball OG in Toronto or when he came last year. VDesai despite my Thibs-homer posting I do not think he's infallible or doesn't make mistakes. However it's ridiculous to me to listen the same guys complain about this coach for playing a guy 38 minutes vs. 33 minutes like that's gonna submarine our season. Meanwhile at the same time said player is unlocking new levels blossoming under said coach. It's more a balance thing Thibs isnt perfect but he pushes these guys and the result is THEY GET BETTER. It's wild because our FO gets the right kind of guys. I honestly expect something similar from Mikal next year
Yeah, Evan Fournier should demand a refund, because everyone else keeps getting career bests and raises on their contracts under Thibs
SergioNYK wrote:For a long time I never ever thought I'd ever see a 50 win season and now we've had back to back 50 win seasons! Do not take this granted Knicks fans! Winning is hard! This is a huge accomplishment and you should be proud! OG is playing on another planet these last few weeks! He's doing stuff I never thought he was able to do! That cross over and dunk was just insane! And his three point shot is in a zone right now! I've seen enough! He's a flat out Super Star! Credit to him for his hard work and credit to the coaching staff for his development cause he was not doing this in Toronto. Loved RJ and IQ but this was such a great trade.
So good to have our Cap back! Brunson was rusty as expected but didn't force it and made a clutch 3 like he always does. KAT was dominant in that first half and it's so frustrating how he never gets calls when he drives and gets bumped or hit. Bridges with 20 and got to the line 4 times and hit 2 threes which is a bonus. And great to have Deuce back as well! Looks like the 9 player rotation is set!
Good take. enjoy the season for what it is. No doubt the playoffs are a good metric to measure and we will have grumpy dudes if we don't go past 2 rounds but for most of us the season has been great fun.
As much as this season has been frustrating respective to the expectations, this team is really good and you can look at a team like PHX or Philly or even Minny and see that things can get much worse relative to expectations. Knicks had a really good season, and are not far off from being a legit contender.
haha Frank going hog wild
martin wrote:haha Frank going hog wild
Franco and Gustav are cooking up an analysis as we speak. "People are talking about it"
fishmike wrote:martin wrote:haha Frank going hog wild
Franco and Gustav are cooking up an analysis as we speak. "People are talking about it"
Gustav is waiting for Thibs to get to his first conference final in 14 years. Waiting for the Knicks to get to their first conference final in 25 years.
If Thibs cant, if we get another early exit. Then I hope the FO looks for another coach. Better that than hearing about a great coach who aint so great when it really matters.
GustavBahler wrote:fishmike wrote:martin wrote:haha Frank going hog wild
Franco and Gustav are cooking up an analysis as we speak. "People are talking about it"
Gustav is waiting for Thibs to get to his first conference final in 14 years. Waiting for the Knicks to get to their first conference final in 25 years.
If Thibs cant, if we get another early exit. Then I hope the FO looks for another coach. Better that than hearing about a great coach who aint so great when it really matters.
Doc Rivers? So assume you would also being replacing him someone who's been the finals? Or just give someone else a chance cause.... why not?
fishmike wrote:GustavBahler wrote:fishmike wrote:martin wrote:haha Frank going hog wild
Franco and Gustav are cooking up an analysis as we speak. "People are talking about it"
Gustav is waiting for Thibs to get to his first conference final in 14 years. Waiting for the Knicks to get to their first conference final in 25 years.
If Thibs cant, if we get another early exit. Then I hope the FO looks for another coach. Better that than hearing about a great coach who aint so great when it really matters.
Doc Rivers? So assume you would also being replacing him someone who's been the finals? Or just give someone else a chance cause.... why not?
An asst. coach (like Thibs was) or a promising college coach would be acceptable. If the FO does their homework, which I believe they would.
Doc had early success, and has been living off of it for decades. Record setting choke jobs.
GustavBahler wrote:fishmike wrote:GustavBahler wrote:fishmike wrote:martin wrote:haha Frank going hog wild
Franco and Gustav are cooking up an analysis as we speak. "People are talking about it"
Gustav is waiting for Thibs to get to his first conference final in 14 years. Waiting for the Knicks to get to their first conference final in 25 years.
If Thibs cant, if we get another early exit. Then I hope the FO looks for another coach. Better that than hearing about a great coach who aint so great when it really matters.
Doc Rivers? So assume you would also being replacing him someone who's been the finals? Or just give someone else a chance cause.... why not?
An asst. coach (like Thibs was) or a promising college coach would be acceptable. If the FO does their homework, which I believe they would.
Doc had early success, and has been living off of it for decades. Record setting choke jobs.
Derek Fisher! Mike Miller!
No... wait!
Fizdale! Shit... no.
Kurt Rambis?
