Knicks · Game Thread: JuJu, Divo and TWolves in town 11/5 7:30pm (ESPN) (page 5)

martin @ 11/6/2025 8:39 AM
martin @ 11/6/2025 8:40 AM
ropy33 wrote:Josh Hart was unbelievable...I've never seen him hit 4 threes in a game.

Do NOT do the surgery! The nerve thing FIXED his shot

Also this

nycericanguy @ 11/6/2025 8:42 AM
I generally don't believe in load management, injury prone guys are just going to be injury prone.

But in Mitch's case, I think it makes sense, just limit the minutes/games and chances of him getting injured. Because he's always flying around out there and can land awkwardly any minute.

Unfortunately thats why last season was such a let down, we had everyone healthy and you can never take that for granted. We should have been in the finals 100% if it wasn't for that ridiculous game 1 loss.

martin @ 11/6/2025 8:46 AM
Clean wrote:Max minutes was 33 tonight and I think another recent game it was 32. This is how you save guys over the grind of a season. I love it.

For me, this is exactly ideal

martin @ 11/6/2025 8:48 AM
Big Mitch

SergioNYK @ 11/6/2025 8:50 AM
137 points on 32 assists and 19/42 from three is ridiculous! Brown has these guys really playing at another level on offense! They are sharing the ball and players a lot faster but very efficient!

KAT's been a different player since the donut in Milwaukee! He's not shooting the three at his normal average but he's been great in the paint! Another Shaq like dunk! And he's not tripping over himself on his drives! Very happy the way he's been playing!

And Josh Hart with another Josh Hart game! 4/5 from three! No hesitation! Deuce finally back on track too! The bench is really producing! 55 points off the bench!!!

And OG and Mitch on defense! That sequence with Mitch put back and block at the other end man!

Panos @ 11/6/2025 8:56 AM
SergioNYK wrote:137 points on 32 assists and 19/42 from three is ridiculous! Brown has these guys really playing at another level on offense! They are sharing the ball and players a lot faster but very efficient!

KAT's been a different player since the donut in Milwaukee! He's not shooting the three at his normal average but he's been great in the paint! Another Shaq like dunk! And he's not tripping over himself on his drives! Very happy the way he's been playing!

And Josh Hart with another Josh Hart game! 4/5 from three! No hesitation! Deuce finally back on track too! The bench is really producing! 55 points off the bench!!!

And OG and Mitch on defense! That sequence with Mitch put back and block at the other end man!

If he can unlock Yabu, then the picture will be complete!

LivingLegend @ 11/6/2025 11:57 AM
martin wrote:Need this guy on the team

When his shot hits it's just WET.

Love how quick he gets it off and how he's ready to shoot off catch (great form) - he has his weaknesses BUT it's really too bad we let him go.

Hard to put a trade together that would interest Wolves - who can't afford to lose him. Only way might be to send Mitch and Knicks can't do that given we already have Deuce/Clarkson and Mitch potential impact in playoffs.

Only other way might be with Deuce/Yabu/others and picks and don't think either team does that.

LivingLegend @ 11/6/2025 12:00 PM
martin wrote:

What crossed my mind as Josh was proactively splashing 3's -- we have the new shooting coach(s) and maybe they have found something.

Thought I heard Hart comment a few weeks ago that he is working thru the finger and just doing lots of work with shooting coach.

LivingLegend @ 11/6/2025 12:01 PM
martin wrote:

To be fair - Wolves really seemed disinterested last night....it was a weird 2nd half on their part.

Also - is there another 4-time defensive player of the year that can look so invisible as Gobert often does?

LivingLegend @ 11/6/2025 12:04 PM
martin wrote:
Clean wrote:Max minutes was 33 tonight and I think another recent game it was 32. This is how you save guys over the grind of a season. I love it.

For me, this is exactly ideal

And also - the substitutions thru out the game just felt timely/right.

Wasn't screaming at the TV to get someone out -- as guys trailed off during their stint they were subbed out.

Biggest benefactor I believe with the better minute distribution will be our DEFENSE. If guys 1) are rested and 2) know their defense will impact staying on the floor ---- they will tend to grind more.

Last year defensive effort had no role in minutes - top 6 guys knew they were getting +30 minutes regardless if they were asleep defensively.

LivingLegend @ 11/6/2025 12:06 PM
I think Clarkson opens up Deuce a little bit more this year --- allows him to spot up more and I think Cam tended to ignore Deuce.

Maybe just wishful thinking on my part but I think Clarkson is playing very well and in the flow while also providing creativity and paint touches we need.

Panos @ 11/6/2025 1:07 PM
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LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:Need this guy on the team

When his shot hits it's just WET.

Love how quick he gets it off and how he's ready to shoot off catch (great form) - he has his weaknesses BUT it's really too bad we let him go.

Hard to put a trade together that would interest Wolves - who can't afford to lose him. Only way might be to send Mitch and Knicks can't do that given we already have Deuce/Clarkson and Mitch potential impact in playoffs.

Only other way might be with Deuce/Yabu/others and picks and don't think either team does that.

Not for nothing but Randle's 3pts were not even hitting the net. They went straight thru!

Clean @ 11/6/2025 1:33 PM

Yall know how much I like ball and player movement.
EwingsGlass @ 11/6/2025 3:51 PM
martin wrote:
ropy33 wrote:Josh Hart was unbelievable...I've never seen him hit 4 threes in a game.

Do NOT do the surgery! The nerve thing FIXED his shot

Also this

LOL. I thought that same thing last night

ramtour420 @ 11/6/2025 3:54 PM
Clean wrote:
Yall know how much I like ball and player movement.

Unbelievable. Basketball can be sooo pretty

EwingsGlass @ 11/6/2025 3:55 PM
Panos wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:137 points on 32 assists and 19/42 from three is ridiculous! Brown has these guys really playing at another level on offense! They are sharing the ball and players a lot faster but very efficient!

KAT's been a different player since the donut in Milwaukee! He's not shooting the three at his normal average but he's been great in the paint! Another Shaq like dunk! And he's not tripping over himself on his drives! Very happy the way he's been playing!

And Josh Hart with another Josh Hart game! 4/5 from three! No hesitation! Deuce finally back on track too! The bench is really producing! 55 points off the bench!!!

And OG and Mitch on defense! That sequence with Mitch put back and block at the other end man!

If he can unlock Yabu, then the picture will be complete!

I think Yabu is playing through some form of back problem or something. Back looks stiff. Possible he is just carrying too much upper body weight. But he is walking ass-out and a bit hunched over. I might be seeing things, but he looks like I look when I have a crick in my back.

ramtour420 @ 11/6/2025 3:55 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:

To be fair - Wolves really seemed disinterested last night....it was a weird 2nd half on their part.

Also - is there another 4-time defensive player of the year that can look so invisible as Gobert often does?


When there is such ball movement and so many 3's are shot - defensive centers are not able to impact the game as much.
EwingsGlass @ 11/6/2025 4:12 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
Clean wrote:
Yall know how much I like ball and player movement.

Unbelievable. Basketball can be sooo pretty

The offball motion at the 40 to 44 second mark. Hart diving in the paint. Two corners and two guys moving to the top of the key. Three defenders packing the paint and the corners are wide open. Two closeouts to the top of the key have their back to the board. Randle slips too far into the paint. Can't closeout in time. Yabu fires. Bridges fills the space where Randle used to be (also the high probably rebound location) forward looking and heads up, but not needed cause Yabu catches nothing but net. High probability they get the O rebound off that if it missed.

That's analytically amazing 5 out offense. Off ball movement that tracks probabilities. Motion that creates positional advantage and vertical spacing. Gorgeous.

Clean @ 11/6/2025 5:24 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
Clean wrote:
Yall know how much I like ball and player movement.

Unbelievable. Basketball can be sooo pretty

The offball motion at the 40 to 44 second mark. Hart diving in the paint. Two corners and two guys moving to the top of the key. Three defenders packing the paint and the corners are wide open. Two closeouts to the top of the key have their back to the board. Randle slips too far into the paint. Can't closeout in time. Yabu fires. Bridges fills the space where Randle used to be (also the high probably rebound location) forward looking and heads up, but not needed cause Yabu catches nothing but net. High probability they get the O rebound off that if it missed.

That's analytically amazing 5 out offense. Off ball movement that tracks probabilities. Motion that creates positional advantage and vertical spacing. Gorgeous.

Yup, every instance of player and/or ball movement makes the defense have to make a decision. Every decision the defense makes is an inflection point and gives them more opportunities to make a mistake. This is why I was never high on ISO offense with no player movement. You give the defense rests. They are easy to gameplan againt and they provide little chances for the defense makes a mistake.

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