I go back and forth on him. In general I want to say he’s not very good. And whatever Thibs and Mike Brown think of him, I want to find the better version of that. Because he clearly sees real time, and seems to be upgraded to a part-time starter here (when Mitch is out) and a true rotation player regardless. The best I can say is he’s almost 3&D-ish I guess ? His shooting numbers have been really good as a Knick. Are you fine with him as a rotation guy for what he brings, or do you feel like we need depth that is strong enough where he isn’t a rotation player? Is he good enough to play 15-20 mpg on a championship team?
he's solid but like most shooters he needs rhythm and sometimes he's not doing enough to get those minutes. Kind of like DDV who really took off after he started getting alot of minutes and shot attempts. I hoped he could be another DDV for us that could find another level with us but it hasn't happened unfortunately. Still a decent 3 & D guy at least.
Probably our best pure shooter though, we have guys like OG, MIkal, Deuce who can shoot high %'s from 3 but kind of need to be set and open.
he plays at pace and with an intensity that is hard to not play. I think he earns his time but the problem is he's not very good.
He does make plays if you give him time. Extra passes, tough rebounds. He's a nice player next to your finesse guys also because he's such a lunch pail player. We are also very small w/ Kolek out there and he seems to be the one sitting while Shamet plays
Knixkik wrote:Is he good enough to play 15-20 mpg on a championship team?
Feels like he's earned the 9th spot in the rotation which is fine.
If everyone is healthy come play offs assume we start 2 bigs and the bench is just McBride/Josh/Clarkson and those are the 8 we play. Maybe Yabasele plays himself into shape and into the rotation
I see Kolek/Shamet as 9/10 guy who will get some regular season time but neither crack my post season rotation of 8 today
I think it's time for him to start rocking head bands or go bald. He's in the same situation derrick white was years ago. So far, he's been OK as a bench guy and underwhelming as a spot starter. I think we should've kept Matthews.
BigDaddyG wrote:I think it's time for him to start rocking head bands or go bald. He's in the same situation derrick white was years ago. So far, he's been OK as a bench guy and underwhelming as a spot starter. I think we should've kept Matthews.
I really like his defense. I think he is greatly underrated there. Just watch him play d next game. I wish I had some numbers to back this up, but the eye test says he is better than solid. His point of attack defense is my favorite part. Yes, bigger players had some success getting low position on him and scoring that way, but that's his only weakness, really.
His shooting is spectacular. He is probably our 5th best 3 point shooter behind Brunson, Towns, Bridges and OG. McBride and him are very close. And he is probably our 4th best defender behind Mitch, OG and Bridges So there is that. He always plays so hard, he never takes plays off. I absolutely feel like he is a rotation player on a Championship team.
He is one of those guys that does everything right on both ends, but still gets scored on or misses the shot. His shot is streaky. His effort level and smarts are great.
VDesai wrote:He is one of those guys that does everything right on both ends, but still gets scored on or misses the shot. His shot is streaky. His effort level and smarts are great.
Ya I have a guess that he is the ultimate role type guy who coaches love too.
At 2mm per he is great fit for this club. He does what is needed for Browns offense and will fill in nice when others are injured.
Good foot speed on defense man to man but will be abused when taken in the paint.
I like his hustle and motor and he's a pretty good open shooter. Despite his effort and activity level, I think he's overrated on D because he's so slight and doesn't really present meaningful resistance to shooters when closing out, and is easily bullied on any type of drive. I'm not super confident with him as an important rotation piece in the playoffs. Spot minutes as needed would be my choice for him.
I find him to be a bit too streaky shooting for a 1 dimensional player and a bit outmatched defensively but I guess his numbers look good and he gets a lot of playing time so what do I know?
I don't love him but think there's always the potential of a big game with him. I think that matters way more later in the season
He's not getting paid enough for a contributing rotation player.
He and Yabu should switch contracts.
Plug and play bench or starter. He knows where to be on O and D. He moves on O really well and does the small things. For me, you can't ask for more, especially at his $
His per36 shooting rate is 3rd on the team, just behind Jalen and Clarkson, at 8 per. He is shooting a 44% clip from downtown on a 10 game sample size.
Come join me on Shamet bandwagon. There is plenty of space for everyone. Plus we have cookies
martin wrote:
The relocation off the dribble was smooth.
Panos wrote:He's not getting paid enough for a contributing rotation player.
He and Yabu should switch contracts.
Honestly, I think he's got a bum deal. Last year, injured shoulder during training camp (?) then got a min contract. Contributed some in playoffs. Then comes back for a non-guaranteed min vet contract again, and is contributing off the bench as much as anyone. And, no complaints or shitty body language. He's a pro, and doing his job.
Except for Yabu, you really cannot ask for more value from our main bench guys: Clarkson, Shamet, and Deuce legit players on amazing value contracts.
Crazy to think how well positioned this team is with their contracts compared to all the prior years with all the shitty albatross contracts. It's unbelievable that we had to live through such terrible management as that for so long.
ramtour420 wrote:Come join me on Shamet bandwagon. There is plenty of space for everyone. Plus we have cookies
Old school Hollywood buffet type cookies? Cause then I'm in
Panos wrote:Panos wrote:He's not getting paid enough for a contributing rotation player.
He and Yabu should switch contracts.
Honestly, I think he's got a bum deal. Last year, injured shoulder during training camp (?) then got a min contract. Contributed some in playoffs. Then comes back for a non-guaranteed min vet contract again, and is contributing off the bench as much as anyone. And, no complaints or shitty body language. He's a pro, and doing his job.
Except for Yabu, you really cannot ask for more value from our main bench guys: Clarkson, Shamet, and Deuce legit players on amazing value contracts.
Crazy to think how well positioned this team is with their contracts compared to all the prior years with all the shitty albatross contracts. It's unbelievable that we had to live through such terrible management as that for so long.
Knicks finally got playable depth. Unfortunately Precious, Cam, and whatever else Knicks had was not nearly enough.
