Knicks · GameThread: Back to back, Orlando 7pm MSG, ESPN (page 2)

nycericanguy @ 11/12/2025 3:55 PM
martin wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I've thought about what it would take to bring DDV back, b/c watching Hart, Brunson and Mikal together how could you not? they are playing with such beautiful chemistry, where the sum is more than the parts. its looking championship level.

I’d love it. But Deuce + depth at PF + youth is a tough pill to swallow.

lets see if Yabu shows something, b/c if not, his salary is big enough to be filler for a trade at the deadline. Right now, he's not showing anything that any random vet min or 2nd rounder could give us IMO. Diawara is already showing more, and so is Huk defensively.

so to me, right now it would essentially be Duece and a rookie that doesn't play for DDV. and DDV is better than Deuce, even considering Deuce's defense. DDV could essentially take the combined role of Duece and Shamet and combine it into a 30mpg role.

martin @ 11/12/2025 4:20 PM
nycericanguy wrote:
martin wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I've thought about what it would take to bring DDV back, b/c watching Hart, Brunson and Mikal together how could you not? they are playing with such beautiful chemistry, where the sum is more than the parts. its looking championship level.

I’d love it. But Deuce + depth at PF + youth is a tough pill to swallow.

lets see if Yabu shows something, b/c if not, his salary is big enough to be filler for a trade at the deadline. Right now, he's not showing anything that any random vet min or 2nd rounder could give us IMO. Diawara is already showing more, and so is Huk defensively.

so to me, right now it would essentially be Duece and a rookie that doesn't play for DDV. and DDV is better than Deuce, even considering Deuce's defense. DDV could essentially take the combined role of Duece and Shamet and combine it into a 30mpg role.

I’ve always wondered how GM’s or Leon walk thru this exercise.

Lose POA defense.
Lose PF who shot 40% 3pt last year.
Lose first round pick.
Lose depth.

Gain passing, generally better offense.
Gain Nova magic.
Gain vet min spot?

TBD Diawara or any PF.

What I miss?

I’d think Minny might even favor this swap from a roster perspective but I don’t know. Prob need an additional team to make rosters work.

nycericanguy @ 11/12/2025 4:28 PM
martin wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
martin wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:I've thought about what it would take to bring DDV back, b/c watching Hart, Brunson and Mikal together how could you not? they are playing with such beautiful chemistry, where the sum is more than the parts. its looking championship level.

I’d love it. But Deuce + depth at PF + youth is a tough pill to swallow.

lets see if Yabu shows something, b/c if not, his salary is big enough to be filler for a trade at the deadline. Right now, he's not showing anything that any random vet min or 2nd rounder could give us IMO. Diawara is already showing more, and so is Huk defensively.

so to me, right now it would essentially be Duece and a rookie that doesn't play for DDV. and DDV is better than Deuce, even considering Deuce's defense. DDV could essentially take the combined role of Duece and Shamet and combine it into a 30mpg role.

I’ve always wondered how GM’s or Leon walk thru this exercise.

Lose POA defense.
Lose PF who shot 40% 3pt last year.
Lose first round pick.
Lose depth.

Gain passing, generally better offense.
Gain Nova magic.
Gain vet min spot?

TBD Diawara or any PF.

What I miss?

I’d think Minny might even favor this swap from a roster perspective but I don’t know. Prob need an additional team to make rosters work.

yea even if not MIN, if Yabu doesn't show something, we have enough assets/salary to really be able to add a solid 10-15m type player at the deadline.

but let me STFU and just enjoy the NOW...lol

martin @ 11/12/2025 4:52 PM
Kinda thought Deuce had moved down a small notch in the rotation X mostly just not first guy off bench - but didn’t realize this

Panos @ 11/12/2025 6:03 PM
martin wrote:Kinda thought Deuce had moved down a small notch in the rotation X mostly just not first guy off bench - but didn’t realize this

Not sure I get the joke.

BigDaddyG @ 11/12/2025 6:18 PM
Panos wrote:
martin wrote:Kinda thought Deuce had moved down a small notch in the rotation X mostly just not first guy off bench - but didn’t realize this

Not sure I get the joke.

I dunno. Maybe the joke is imagine how many more minutes Deuce would lose if Yabusele was playing like a NBA player? 🤷 It stands to reason Deuce would get less playing time with Mitch back, Hart being pushed to the bench and Jordan getting signed.

martin @ 11/12/2025 6:52 PM
martin @ 11/12/2025 7:02 PM
martin @ 11/12/2025 7:02 PM
Well played

Philc1 @ 11/12/2025 7:13 PM
martin wrote:Well played

I heard he was on the Knicks

NYKBocker @ 11/12/2025 7:20 PM
Who is doing color? Is that Novak?
BigDaddyG @ 11/12/2025 7:22 PM
Philc1 wrote:
martin wrote:Well played

I heard he was on the Knicks

No, you're thinking about Patrick Ewing Jr. 😏

Philc1 @ 11/12/2025 7:31 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Who is doing color? Is that Novak?

Why do we always get Doris?

ToddTT @ 11/12/2025 7:42 PM
Blow it up.
Philc1 @ 11/12/2025 7:42 PM
Well that sucked
Philc1 @ 11/12/2025 7:55 PM
Getting outrebounded and outmuscled
BigDaddyG @ 11/12/2025 7:59 PM
Orlando is just a bad matchup.
Philc1 @ 11/12/2025 8:00 PM
Hart’s 3 almost went into the Hudson
Philc1 @ 11/12/2025 8:01 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Orlando is just a bad matchup.

Big physical team. We don’t matchup well with them at all

VDesai @ 11/12/2025 8:11 PM
They were sleep walking at the end of last night and are still doing it now

Orlando dominating

WP76 @ 11/12/2025 8:12 PM
Ugly by every definition of the word. We've put up 40 point quarters; tonight we're working on a 40 point half....sigh.
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