Knicks · GameThread: Back to back, Orlando 7pm MSG, ESPN (page 4)

VDesai @ 11/12/2025 9:25 PM
Black can't miss. Orlando making all the daggers
MaTT4281 @ 11/12/2025 9:26 PM
Magic had an answer for every bucket. Needed to be sharper tonight. Offense was slow and we made too many careless mistakes.
MaTT4281 @ 11/12/2025 9:30 PM
KAT can't be flinging stuff like that foul hunting... especially when you're still trying to come back
VDesai @ 11/12/2025 9:31 PM
Don't understand the whistle here
LivingLegend @ 11/12/2025 9:33 PM
The ANTHONY BLACK garden game - one more in a long line of scrubs killing us at the garden.

- Josh brutal all night - 3 TO’s I think in first 3 trips in game
- Juice showing why you can’t put ball in his hands off dribble
- Mikal allergic to 3’s above the baseline
- Mitch zero impact
- Jalen dominating ball and killed all night on D
- OG again falls down and out of bounds while dribbling a ball
- Kat 1 step late to every defensive play and flopping like a girl on offense all night
- Yabu a turd burger no show
- Shamet trying but guards likes wet blanket

Who I miss?

Deuce really bad tonight.

LivingLegend @ 11/12/2025 9:34 PM
Also - refs in Magics pocket from start to finish.
MaTT4281 @ 11/12/2025 9:34 PM
We nearly break Brunson and coach decides to throw in the towel. Finally
VDesai @ 11/12/2025 9:34 PM
Brunson with an ankle
SergioNYK @ 11/12/2025 9:42 PM
Tough loss. Just wasn't our night. Give Orlando credit. They were the aggressor.

We'll see them again.

LivingLegend @ 11/12/2025 9:42 PM
Hart -16 in 21 minutes with 3 bad to’s and 1-5 from 3.

Deuce similar line with -10 +/- and 3 bad TOs

Mitch -11 in 18 minutes.

Other than Kat (12)and Mitch (8) - no other Knick had +4 boards.

Against heavy D - Hart is exposed and our lack of creation is exposed—- once again whole offense seemed to fall on Brunson.

Sequence where Mikal couldn’t dribble by Vagner on perimeter and have to force pass to Mitch then Jack up running 3 pointer was a bad look for Mikal.


Other then these items everything else looked GREAT

LivingLegend @ 11/12/2025 9:45 PM
SergioNYK wrote:Tough loss. Just wasn't our night. Give Orlando credit. They were the aggressor.

We'll see them again.

We dicked around all 2nd half last night and nearly got clipped by hapless Grizzly and as a result we ended up running key guys into high +35 minutes. Come out again tonight like we don’t respect Magic. We looked SOFT as hell - with any offense Magic beat us by 25. Franz putting ball on floor compared to our wings is a glaring advantage.

Don’t like Hart’s effort last 2 nights - very lackadaisical and sloppy play.

Oh well —- mostly pissed I had to pay $4.99 to watch in Sling.

VDesai @ 11/12/2025 10:08 PM
Orlando played harder and we looked tired/gassed. Orlando dared the refs to call fouls and dominated us physically Nothing effort from a lot of players tonight. Mikal and OG invisible offensive nights. Others have to initiate in this offense and no one else got it going.
VDesai @ 11/12/2025 10:11 PM
Brown with a Thibsy move at the end of the game not getting guys out. Hopefully Brunson not injured, but clearly turned his ankle stepping on Carter's foot. Brunson seems to have bionic ankles at times, but that could easily be something that keeps him out a couple weeks. Hopefully not, but we shall see.
NYStateOfMind @ 11/12/2025 10:40 PM
He pushed off and shouldered all night and got away with it, Goga barely got touched, and both were instant Knick fouls the whole game. Kat got brutalized at times, and nothing because he complains and is a Knick. Either way, we probably lose tonight on back to back, sloppy predictable passing, and poor rushed shots. On to the next one. Lets go Knick!

VDesai wrote:They let Franz get away with everything they call on KAT
LivingLegend @ 11/13/2025 12:07 AM
NYStateOfMind wrote:He pushed off and shouldered all night and got away with it, Goga barely got touched, and both were instant Knick fouls the whole game. Kat got brutalized at times, and nothing because he complains and is a Knick. Either way, we probably lose tonight on back to back, sloppy predictable passing, and poor rushed shots. On to the next one. Lets go Knick!

VDesai wrote:They let Franz get away with everything they call on KAT

Hard not to believe NBA refs hate Kat for whatever reason because he takes a ton of contact.

That said Kat initiates all kinds of hand fighting, hooking and extending his arm on offense so maybe refs just say F it when he’s legitimately hit.

martin @ 11/13/2025 7:31 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:He pushed off and shouldered all night and got away with it, Goga barely got touched, and both were instant Knick fouls the whole game. Kat got brutalized at times, and nothing because he complains and is a Knick. Either way, we probably lose tonight on back to back, sloppy predictable passing, and poor rushed shots. On to the next one. Lets go Knick!

VDesai wrote:They let Franz get away with everything they call on KAT

Hard not to believe NBA refs hate Kat for whatever reason because he takes a ton of contact.

That said Kat initiates all kinds of hand fighting, hooking and extending his arm on offense so maybe refs just say F it when he’s legitimately hit.

We shall call that Kung Fu fighting.

VDesai @ 11/13/2025 7:52 AM
Well Brunson left the arena in a boot on crutches so I guess we are fucked till January or so
LivingLegend @ 11/13/2025 8:27 AM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:He pushed off and shouldered all night and got away with it, Goga barely got touched, and both were instant Knick fouls the whole game. Kat got brutalized at times, and nothing because he complains and is a Knick. Either way, we probably lose tonight on back to back, sloppy predictable passing, and poor rushed shots. On to the next one. Lets go Knick!

VDesai wrote:They let Franz get away with everything they call on KAT

Hard not to believe NBA refs hate Kat for whatever reason because he takes a ton of contact.

That said Kat initiates all kinds of hand fighting, hooking and extending his arm on offense so maybe refs just say F it when he’s legitimately hit.

We shall call that Kung Fu fighting.

Maybe my favorite all-time Clyde-ism

LivingLegend @ 11/13/2025 8:39 AM
Did not realize Hart was benched entire 4th and was also on bench for 4th the night before. Also didn’t realize Mikal was benched for most of 4th.

It really was an all around piss poor effort capped off by Brunson injury very late in blowout.

Liked that Brown basically pointed fingers at our guys for whining about fouls in 1st half and saying we were in fact fouling because I was unable to challenge anything.

It’s games like this where we are exposed for our offensive limitations when teams force us to create rather than knock down wide open looks.

We still need creation with skill BADLY (not against most teams but against teams with talent and defense)

- OG can’t dribble without a fork & napkin and every drive is potential season ending injury or fall
- Every Hart shot leaves you breathless and how many times he going to lose a cutter or not box out
- Deuce shakes and bakes but can’t stick fork in dribble.
- Kat can’t put ball on floor without committing offensive foul.
- Mitch is literally only capable of kicking ball out after rebound - literally can’t even bounce ball without an oopsie
- Clarkson can’t seem to just take simple shots
- Yabu rear-end grows like Pinocchio nose
- Mikal looking like he’s dribbling against 4 guys but when you blink you only see Franz guarding him

SergioNYK @ 11/13/2025 8:57 AM

SergioNYK @ 11/13/2025 9:11 AM
Fingers crossed the Cap is OK but if he has to miss a few weeks, so be it. It happened last season too and Brunson missed a month and we survived going 9-5. OG went on a scoring tear if you remember so we'll be fine record wise.

Hated how we played in that first half. Brown is right. They punked us. We spent more time arguing with the zebras, even though they were terrible and one sided. Orlando shot 10 more FT's (33 total) and KAT especially got mauled on several drives to the paint and only shot 2 FT's which is crazy. It is what it is. No excuses. We didn't play our game. We can't get into a wrestling match with teams like that. First time in a long time we saw a player own OG like Wagner did. Give them credit though. Magic played like it was Game 7.

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