Knicks · GameThread: Knicks back home vs Suns 7:30PM (page 4)

martin @ 1/17/2026 10:16 PM
This sums it up

martin @ 1/17/2026 10:17 PM
At least there is Deuce

martin @ 1/17/2026 10:20 PM
BlueKnickers @ 1/17/2026 10:21 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
martin wrote:Yep

We need a Kolek upgrade

So disappointed. Kid lost his confidence. Playing like crap lately. If he doesn't pull it together he'll be headed back to the bench

BlueKnickers @ 1/17/2026 10:25 PM
Dillon helped turn around the Suns. He's not considered a star player, but there it is.

Our "culture" is suffering from a bad mix of talents that cannot pull together on defense.

We played better defense earlier this season, but the collective effort has evaporated. Anytime we play good D it is only for a short stretch, a quarter at best, but it is not sustained at all.

We are now reduced to winning by outscoring teams. No team ever contends like that.

BlueKnickers @ 1/17/2026 10:27 PM
Everyone played except McCullar.

Unless he's injured, big mistake by Brown.

NardDogNation @ 1/17/2026 10:34 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:Dillon helped turn around the Suns. He's not considered a star player, but there it is.

Our "culture" is suffering from a bad mix of talents that cannot pull together on defense.

We played better defense earlier this season, but the collective effort has evaporated. Anytime we play good D it is only for a short stretch, a quarter at best, but it is not sustained at all.

We are now reduced to winning by outscoring teams. No team ever contends like that.

Not a bad mix of talent. The issue is Towns. His blunders are as bone-headed as they come and kill morale.

NardDogNation @ 1/17/2026 10:37 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:Dillon helped turn around the Suns. He's not considered a star player, but there it is.

Our "culture" is suffering from a bad mix of talents that cannot pull together on defense.

We played better defense earlier this season, but the collective effort has evaporated. Anytime we play good D it is only for a short stretch, a quarter at best, but it is not sustained at all.

We are now reduced to winning by outscoring teams. No team ever contends like that.

Case and point that pedigree does not necessarily translate to wins. It's why I'm strongly on team "Trade KAT". Depending on the return, it'd be addition by subtraction.

BlueKnickers @ 1/17/2026 10:44 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:Dillon helped turn around the Suns. He's not considered a star player, but there it is.

Our "culture" is suffering from a bad mix of talents that cannot pull together on defense.

We played better defense earlier this season, but the collective effort has evaporated. Anytime we play good D it is only for a short stretch, a quarter at best, but it is not sustained at all.

We are now reduced to winning by outscoring teams. No team ever contends like that.

Case and point that pedigree does not necessarily translate to wins. It's why I'm strongly on team "Trade KAT". Depending on the return, it'd be addition by subtraction.

If the result is we close up the lanes and prevent easy threes by trading Towns for other guys who bring the defense I agree because we have the offensive talent without KAT.

His Omigod crap is tired for many of us and it must be getting old in the locker room.

martin @ 1/17/2026 10:45 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:Dillon helped turn around the Suns. He's not considered a star player, but there it is.

Our "culture" is suffering from a bad mix of talents that cannot pull together on defense.

We played better defense earlier this season, but the collective effort has evaporated. Anytime we play good D it is only for a short stretch, a quarter at best, but it is not sustained at all.

We are now reduced to winning by outscoring teams. No team ever contends like that.

Case and point that pedigree does not necessarily translate to wins. It's why I'm strongly on team "Trade KAT". Depending on the return, it'd be addition by subtraction.

I’ve heard this story before.

Upgrade Randle to KAT and then to Giannis I guess.

BlueKnickers @ 1/17/2026 10:49 PM
martin wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:Dillon helped turn around the Suns. He's not considered a star player, but there it is.

Our "culture" is suffering from a bad mix of talents that cannot pull together on defense.

We played better defense earlier this season, but the collective effort has evaporated. Anytime we play good D it is only for a short stretch, a quarter at best, but it is not sustained at all.

We are now reduced to winning by outscoring teams. No team ever contends like that.

Case and point that pedigree does not necessarily translate to wins. It's why I'm strongly on team "Trade KAT". Depending on the return, it'd be addition by subtraction.

I’ve heard this story before.

Upgrade Randle to KAT and then to Giannis I guess.

And to think it all started with a single paperclip

KEEPCAMBYNY @ 1/17/2026 11:13 PM
I sure wish I had a de-aging potion to give those alumni at halftime and then had them throw a jersey on to rescue us.
LivingLegend @ 1/17/2026 11:15 PM
Recorded game and started late - could barely make it thru Q1 with how shitty the ball was - basically stupid, sloppy, clumsy, ZERO ball handling or creation. Was going to post my disgust but didn't want to see score - proceeded to rest of game but basically hopped thru it (which I rarely ever do).

Kat looks like a soft G-League center getting his 1st NBA action - didn't look at his stats but remarkable how often this guy gets stripped, blocked, falls, turns ball over, hits guys in the face, in the nuts -- just on and on.

Making me want Jules back - GULP.

Basically felt like I was watching D'Antoni team with Harrington, T Thomas, maybe some Felton but that's a disservice to those players.

LivingLegend @ 1/17/2026 11:15 PM
martin wrote:This sums it up

Tank that value Kat - tank that value. Ja Towns.

BlueKnickers @ 1/17/2026 11:18 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Recorded game and started late - could barely make it thru Q1 with how shitty the ball was - basically stupid, sloppy, clumsy, ZERO ball handling or creation. Was going to post my disgust but didn't want to see score - proceeded to rest of game but basically hopped thru it (which I rarely ever do).

Kat looks like a soft G-League center getting his 1st NBA action - didn't look at his stats but remarkable how often this guy gets stripped, blocked, falls, turns ball over, hits guys in the face, in the nuts -- just on and on.

Making me want Jules back - GULP.

Basically felt like I was watching D'Antoni team with Harrington, T Thomas, maybe some Felton but that's a disservice to those players.

Well, we do have an Al Harrington on this team.

His name is Jordan Clarkson.

LivingLegend @ 1/17/2026 11:19 PM
martin wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:Dillon helped turn around the Suns. He's not considered a star player, but there it is.

Our "culture" is suffering from a bad mix of talents that cannot pull together on defense.

We played better defense earlier this season, but the collective effort has evaporated. Anytime we play good D it is only for a short stretch, a quarter at best, but it is not sustained at all.

We are now reduced to winning by outscoring teams. No team ever contends like that.

Case and point that pedigree does not necessarily translate to wins. It's why I'm strongly on team "Trade KAT". Depending on the return, it'd be addition by subtraction.

I’ve heard this story before.

Upgrade Randle to KAT and then to Giannis I guess.

Watching Giannis quite a bit lately - not clear if he is also going 70% but damn his game may not age well either. Very ball dominant, lots of standing around. Murder on the run and everything kind of stops when he puts his back to basket or has ball foul line extended.

He'd definitely get 30/10/5 here but not sure how rest of team would fall in line and who we are trading.

Kind of hoping there are other trade options out there.

What's probably going to happen is we will get past deadline - add a few pieces -- look better but collapse at some point in playoffs.

LivingLegend @ 1/17/2026 11:27 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Recorded game and started late - could barely make it thru Q1 with how shitty the ball was - basically stupid, sloppy, clumsy, ZERO ball handling or creation. Was going to post my disgust but didn't want to see score - proceeded to rest of game but basically hopped thru it (which I rarely ever do).

Kat looks like a soft G-League center getting his 1st NBA action - didn't look at his stats but remarkable how often this guy gets stripped, blocked, falls, turns ball over, hits guys in the face, in the nuts -- just on and on.

Making me want Jules back - GULP.

Basically felt like I was watching D'Antoni team with Harrington, T Thomas, maybe some Felton but that's a disservice to those players.

Kidding on Jules comment - don't want to wake/rile up Todd.

ToddTT @ 1/17/2026 11:32 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:Recorded game and started late - could barely make it thru Q1 with how shitty the ball was - basically stupid, sloppy, clumsy, ZERO ball handling or creation. Was going to post my disgust but didn't want to see score - proceeded to rest of game but basically hopped thru it (which I rarely ever do).

Kat looks like a soft G-League center getting his 1st NBA action - didn't look at his stats but remarkable how often this guy gets stripped, blocked, falls, turns ball over, hits guys in the face, in the nuts -- just on and on.

Making me want Jules back - GULP.

Basically felt like I was watching D'Antoni team with Harrington, T Thomas, maybe some Felton but that's a disservice to those players.

Kidding on Jules comment - don't want to wake/rile up Todd.

I would trade Julius for KAT straight up. I’d even throw in Yabu!

Knicksfan @ 1/18/2026 5:00 AM
The Titaknicks

I guess we have to pray for a quick recovery of Jalen Brunson only to save a little bit of dignity?

This team is back to the full-on mess they always find a way to be. Disappointing doesn’t give it credit. This team was supposed to be a battle tested veteran team that was on the rise, but everyone seems to be a head case. Yes, KAT is terrible, but if he can create such a mess all by himself, making our other pillars on the team fall like they also are, then this team was nothing but fool’s gold.

I keep going back to the start of this mess and Coach Brown asking the Knicks who they were. The answer sucks, but unfortunately it’s not new. They are a mediocre bunch who believes they are contenders but are too cool to actually show it. I hate that. That’s not the Knicks brand I love to follow.

This team is an embarrassment.

nycericanguy @ 1/18/2026 7:23 AM
KAT looks fat, slow, and just generally annoyed even being out there. IDK how he got to this point, but it seems he's playing as much against the refs as he is the opposing team. He's had so many chances with Brunson out to really step up and have a big game and he's failed every single time.

Honestly same for MIkal and OG... they aren't stepping up either. The only one stepping up has been Deuce.

PassTheBall @ 1/18/2026 7:30 AM
So I guess the sky was actually falling haha!

3 more weeks of this madness because the NBA trade deadline is flawed.

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