When Ian weighs in, we must pay attention.
The framework makes a ton of sense. More sense in the summer though. This Knicks team better step up so this stuff goes away. Win a title this year and all of this goes away. But getting Giannis/ Holiday would be amazing but almost too good to be true.
this would still require MIL trading Giannis for KAT basically, but POR could add some draft compensation for the Jrue/Mikal swap.
Plus we could add the WSH picks.
nycericanguy wrote:this would still require MIL trading Giannis for KAT basically, but POR could add some draft compensation for the Jrue/Mikal swap.Plus we could add the WSH picks.
The suggestion is that Portland owns Milwaukee picks in 28, 29, 30 for the Dame trade and some or all would be included. No idea the details.
martin wrote:nycericanguy wrote:this would still require MIL trading Giannis for KAT basically, but POR could add some draft compensation for the Jrue/Mikal swap.Plus we could add the WSH picks.
The suggestion is that Portland owns Milwaukee picks in 28, 29, 30 for the Dame trade and some or all would be included. No idea the details.
Well I think if you can get POR to give up 2 of those picks it's a good deal.
Salary wise would look something like...
MIL - KAT, WSH picks, 2 firsts from POR?
NY - Giannis, Jrue
POR - Mikal, Yabu
Both KAT and Giannis have player options after next season. KAT is one year younger but Giannis is better and better conditioned. Obviously I would love Giannis at the right price but if nothing happens I’d be fine either way. In 2 years KAT will want another super max when he’s 32 but so will Giannis when he’s 33.
nycericanguy wrote:martin wrote:nycericanguy wrote:this would still require MIL trading Giannis for KAT basically, but POR could add some draft compensation for the Jrue/Mikal swap.Plus we could add the WSH picks.
The suggestion is that Portland owns Milwaukee picks in 28, 29, 30 for the Dame trade and some or all would be included. No idea the details.
Well I think if you can get POR to give up 2 of those picks it's a good deal.
Salary wise would look something like...
MIL - KAT, WSH picks, 2 firsts from POR?
NY - Giannis, Jrue
POR - Mikal, Yabu
Wouldn't be surprised if Yabu to New Orleans was a part of this for Alvarado and then Kolek would be included somehow?
Incoming! Rich Paul wants in on the action. This will end well for everyone I am sure
Knixkik wrote:The framework makes a ton of sense. More sense in the summer though. This Knicks team better step up so this stuff goes away. Win a title this year and all of this goes away. But getting Giannis/ Holiday would be amazing but almost too good to be true.
I think it does too.
Portland goes from 35yo Jrue (soon to be 36 this summer eek) to 29yo Mikal and Mikal adds some vet presence on a decent contract for 4+years. Next year Lillard will be back and he will have ball in hands surrounded by Mikal, Sharpe, Deni, Klingon. That's a fun Blazers team and they already a play-in team right now.
Milwaukee gets KAT and lots of their picks back, and possibly Scoot? They can extend and then move KAT again if they wanna really tank.
NY takes a risk on Jrue for this season and 2 more. He provides defense and ball handling next to Brunson. I don't know Jrue's game very well but he seems more like a natural PG compared with Brunson, and this will make Brunson even more dangerous off ball. I'd guess Knicks would target Alvarado type to bring of bench cause Kolek just doesn't have it now.
I'd want to play Giannis at C long term and still bring big Mitch off bench.
Meh, would rather just keep KAT and Mikal.
I will say Jrue and Giannis are injury prone and could easily just get worse and worse. I could see Jrue falling off a cliff next season.
nycericanguy wrote:I will say Jrue and Giannis are injury prone and could easily just get worse and worse. I could see Jrue falling off a cliff next season.
100% true. It'll be the cost and risk.
For me, it's a 2 season risk outside of this one for Jrue. And his $37M becomes expiring during the 2027-28 season. SG is the one position that is most easily fill-able via draft or trade IMHO.
Giannis would have to move to C eventually. He seems like the guy who would work continuously on his 3point shot ala Brook Lopez. Strangely, he is shooting 39% on low volume this year.
Wouldn't be shocked if we trade for Jrue + Bucks picks now with eyes on summer Giannis trade. Although lots of smoke trending towards a deadline deal for Giannis. I believe his big extension is contingent on getting traded before the deadline.
martin wrote:nycericanguy wrote:I will say Jrue and Giannis are injury prone and could easily just get worse and worse. I could see Jrue falling off a cliff next season.
100% true. It'll be the cost and risk.
For me, it's a 2 season risk outside of this one for Jrue. And his $37M becomes expiring during the 2027-28 season. SG is the one position that is most easily fill-able via draft or trade IMHO.
Giannis would have to move to C eventually. He seems like the guy who would work continuously on his 3point shot ala Brook Lopez. Strangely, he is shooting 39% on low volume this year.
Giannis in my opinion would be deadly at C, especially as he ages. I'm not sure why it hasn't been tried yet. He has the attributes and skills of a modern center, on steroids.
