BlueKnickers wrote:
My biggest fear is acquiring Jrue would send Kolek away. I'm a Kolek stan. I think the guy is going to win a lot of games in the future whether he's a Knick or not.
The Mavs are still smarting from losing Brunson. It seems to me that acquiring Kolek would be the turn-about-is-fair-play kind of deal that would be sweet revenge.
A deal of Mitch, Kolek, Yabu, and Dadiet works for Gafford and Naji Marshall and a future #1. Gafford is locked in for years at a cost cheaper than Mitch will require.
Mitch is from Texas country and would be a great backup to Flagg.
BlueKnickers wrote:Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:I think ultimately we made need to create a package built around Mikal/OG rather than Kat lead deal.Don't think Kat has enough value around the league - age, contract, no D.
Bucks are probably asking for all 3 Mikal, OG and KAT. F that.
As I said in game thread, OG is not going anywhere
Were you saying that when he had 7 TOs and 0 assists last night?
Just kidding - yes - tough to believe they could move off OG but......you never know (we are talking about the Greek).
chislic wrote:Giannis Antetokounmpo must be traded by the February 5, 2026 deadline to be eligible for a supermax contract extension.If the Bucks are now willing to trade him I don't think they'd do him dirty by waiting until the off season.
It doesn't make sense that they'd entertain a trade now (injured Giannis/less assets in return) unless there is pressure to move him now from Giannis.
Everyone has something to loose, but a with a deal they all win in some fashion. Things could fall through, but saying they hold off trading him at this point is a leverage play at best.
Per below not true on the 2/5/26 deadline and extension and max.
The Bucks are in a unique position because they have picks going out to two teams. Even if they acquire their Portland picks back in a trade, they still owe New Orleans picks so I don't think tanking is a viable option.
Whatever Mikal's faults might be, he is way more valuable because he plays every game. A Jrue for Mikal swap would be terrible.
So I hope Mikal for Jrue isn't part of the deal and for me it would be a deal breaker. Also, Bridges played nice on salary negotiations as did Brunson. I think because of the Brunson- Bridges connection there would be some I'll will created in the locker room.
Giannis- Thanasis for KAT- McBride works out.
Milwaukee can rotate
KAT/Turner/Portis at the four and five
Kuzma/Trent at the 3
McBride/Rollins/ Green at the 1-2
That's a decent rotation, with a little luck the 8 spot in the playoffs for a few years while you wait for Green/ Rollins/ McBride develop.
KAT still has a lot of game in him. I think KAT said he has had a different coach almost every year. Maybe he was happy to reunite with Thibs last season. He should be better in.Milwaukee as more of the focal point.
Knicks have:
Giannis/ OG/ Robinson
Bridges/Shamet
Brunson/Hart/ Clarkson
That lineup is Championship level but because of injury concerns, the Knicks definitely need something more dependable than Yabu's contribution. I'm still a big fan of.K Love. I think Diawara might be the answer but I don't see Brown giving him playoff minutes.
Clarkson or Kolek depending on who's playing well.
LivingLegend wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:I think ultimately we made need to create a package built around Mikal/OG rather than Kat lead deal.Don't think Kat has enough value around the league - age, contract, no D.
Bucks are probably asking for all 3 Mikal, OG and KAT. F that.
As I said in game thread, OG is not going anywhere
Were you saying that when he had 7 TOs and 0 assists last night?
Just kidding - yes - tough to believe they could move off OG but......you never know (we are talking about the Greek).
Well, to be fair, I did target Brunson too for not taking care of the ball.
OG has been more impactful this past week than Brunson has. Without him, they lose the last four games they won.
gradyandrew wrote:The Bucks are in a unique position because they have picks going out to two teams. Even if they acquire their Portland picks back in a trade, they still owe New Orleans picks so I don't think tanking is a viable option. Whatever Mikal's faults might be, he is way more valuable because he plays every game. A Jrue for Mikal swap would be terrible.
So I hope Mikal for Jrue isn't part of the deal and for me it would be a deal breaker. Also, Bridges played nice on salary negotiations as did Brunson. I think because of the Brunson- Bridges connection there would be some I'll will created in the locker room.
Giannis- Thanasis for KAT- McBride works out.
Milwaukee can rotate
KAT/Turner/Portis at the four and five
Kuzma/Trent at the 3
McBride/Rollins/ Green at the 1-2
That's a decent rotation, with a little luck the 8 spot in the playoffs for a few years while you wait for Green/ Rollins/ McBride develop.
KAT still has a lot of game in him. I think KAT said he has had a different coach almost every year. Maybe he was happy to reunite with Thibs last season. He should be better in.Milwaukee as more of the focal point.
Knicks have:
Giannis/ OG/ Robinson
Bridges/Shamet
Brunson/Hart/ Clarkson
That lineup is Championship level but because of injury concerns, the Knicks definitely need something more dependable than Yabu's contribution. I'm still a big fan of.K Love. I think Diawara might be the answer but I don't see Brown giving him playoff minutes.
Clarkson or Kolek depending on who's playing well.
We actually have to complete with other teams offers ya know. The point of trading Mikal for Jrue is to get picks to trade.
BlueKnickers wrote:Personally, I think the odds that Rose will get Giannis dwarfs every other team's chances. I say this because I do not put it past Giannis to hardball the Bucks. He's been loyal, but he's also hungry to win in a big market and he clearly wants to be in New York City, not Los Angeles. There are no bigger markets than either. He wants the limelight.Also, Giannis would rake in enormous side earnings playing out his career as a Knick. It would more than compensate for any possible concession in salary if it comes to that and that is inclusive of state taxes. Being in Miami or Texas would not hold a candle to being in NYC.
Don't know if the Holiday rumors are true, but he and Giannis are very close so it would make sense both in terms of satisfying Giannis and creating backcourt depth. Jrue is a HOF PG and can still play well enough to make a difference.
KAT + Bridges outgoing is the basic math in this scenario
My biggest fear is acquiring Jrue would send Kolek away. I'm a Kolek stan. I think the guy is going to win a lot of games in the future whether he's a Knick or not.
I like to put the tin foil hat on every once in a while and think the NBA does as much as they can to step in and help things out when it makes sense to them. Having Giannis in NY is gold to everyone involved.
NY gotta take back Jrue so that Milwaukee gets their future picks back. Bucks kinda screwed themselves and only can get like a top 3 pick cause Atlanta controls the pick?
Maybe there is another young team that needs to build around someone like KAT but that complicates a lot. Bucks need to tank this year.
Feel like this is the baseline for a KAT Jrue Mikal Giannis trade, give or take.
If this doesn't hit, Yabu extra for Alvarado.
KAT: Play defense, cut the shit with the dumb fouls and TO's, and make shots at your average rate and this goes all way.
martin wrote:KAT: Play defense, cut the shit with the dumb fouls and TO's, and make shots at your average rate and this goes all way.
That's it
If you were living up to expectations, there wouldn't be trade talks
BlueKnickers wrote:martin wrote:KAT: Play defense, cut the shit with the dumb fouls and TO's, and make shots at your average rate and this goes all way.
That's it
If you were living up to expectations, there wouldn't be trade talks
I lined it up perfectly for you to hammer him about OHMYGOD and what the heck man you leaving me hanging! Dap me!
It would of course be totally wild if Minny went all in on a Giannis trade and Randle was apart of the salary fill
KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:
The Legend Grows......TBD
martin wrote:KAT: Play defense, cut the shit with the dumb fouls and TO's, and make shots at your average rate and this goes all way.
This +100. If he could just play solid (doesn't have to be great - just can't be dumb/crap) we can function smoothly and are a tough out for everyone. Also when he plays smart he stays on court and lowering usage for Mitch (a good thing).
Just play solid Kat and no trade necessary.
I think ultimately we are going to get out bid on the Greek front.
I'd like to see us find a way to get Missi (size/rim-protection/insurance), a vet PG and a vet scoring option with some size off the bench.
N.O may have all of this in (Missi/Alvarado/Bey) -- we really don't have a scoring option off the bench with some size (only Deuce.Landry.Clarkson).
Problem is it would probably take Mitch centered package to net those 3 from Pels.
martin wrote:KAT: Play defense, cut the shit with the dumb fouls and TO's, and make shots at your average rate and this goes all way.
Regarding the article - this has been very obvious all year.
His play has nothing to do with new offense or sacrifice for the team -- he's pissed they are thinking about moving him.
Portland holds Milwaukee's 2029 and swap rights in 28 and 39. None of those picks help Milwaukee today.
Here's a trade that worked:
Knicks trade KAT for DDV and Gobert
Milwaukee trades Giannis and Portis for KAT and Randle
Minnesota trades DDV Gobert and Randle for Giannis and Portis
gradyandrew wrote:Portland holds Milwaukee's 2029 and swap rights in 28 and 39. None of those picks help Milwaukee today.
Neither did that Dallas pick that suddenly jumped after the Doncic trade
gradyandrew wrote:Here's a trade that worked:Knicks trade KAT for DDV and Gobert
Milwaukee trades Giannis and Portis for KAT and Randle
Minnesota trades DDV Gobert and Randle for Giannis and Portis
Milwaukee trades for Knicks' sloppy seconds
