ToddTT wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:martin wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:martin wrote:This is gonna hurt if Pablo doesn't turn it around
At those numbers, he's a damn bust. What a disaster to pay someone that much when they haven't done squat
When you draft the # 1 and they are not great you need to trade them and cut your losses
Sunk Cost Theory says they should've moved on from him a while ago
I do not understand the role of the GM in a situation where most everyone can see a disaster in the making or a disaster situation in the making.
Giannias. Ja. JJJ traded a couple years too late. Trae. Embiid. Harden.
I really do not understand holding onto Ja, Giannis, Trae, MVP Embiid as long as their teams did. Makes zero sense. Especially in hindsight but these were readable situations.
Irony aside, extending a # 1 pick comes at a much higher price than a later pick, therefore you should move on rather than commit a max salary if the player is not close to worth that much.
You think they can move Paolo with that kind of salary? I doubt it, therefore their future is tied to him.
When we re-signed Randle he cost about half as much and that made him a movable asset.
If a player is not a movable asset you likely overpaid them.
They should probably waive him.
He's trying to make up it for tonight
but gee whiz the Hornets did not come to play
may go to show how much they depend on Ball, because ORL has locked him up and he's been MIA
The cHeat, Draymond and LaMelo all eliminated? GREAT START TO THESE PLAYOFFS!!!
Hornet are hot for months while the Magic were ass for months.
Both storylines obliterated in 1 game
So think about this. Bancharo's contract is huge. How do you trade that? Waive him? Extend from 4 to 7 years is still massive.
But context and the reality of the moment rather than hindsight genius:
He was rookie of the year. 20 years old and kicking ass. Some of you are fawing over Mo like he a sure thing. This kid was really good with that upside still!
age 21? better numbers and an all star!
Year three he plays just 46 games and hurt. He gets a pass right? Thats reasonable.
This year? Last year on the rookie deal and pressing it. Chemistry issues with Bane? No doubt, too much Iso and I'd think Mosley on the hot seat as he has not unlocked Bancharo potential.
Sure, we can sit here as knick fans and lay all kinds of uppity recomendations but if your the GM/President of that team you got to be shaking your head at the luck of this franchise and the injuries as well. Franz Wagner Missed 22 games last year (avg 24pts per!) and this year played just 34. His production is down but perhaps issues with injuries a huge factor.
Mosley a good coach, respected, but perhaps he is not the problem. I don't follow them that closely but I doubt they are giving up on Bancharo to the degree suggested.
We saw the start of last season what they are capable of doing if healthy and they are still a young core. More tweaks? Coaching change? A trade perhaps?
Bancharo is just 23. A bust? THats not a label for ROY or one that made allstar team. A "bust" is one that never reached a level of play. Perhaps Kwmami Brown or Anthony Bennett comes to mind. THis kid had a great beginning two year two year stint in the league, one injured year, and this past one perhaps should be very concerning.
Magic front office paid the Hornets to throw the game.
Clever!
I was looking forward to rooting for RJ and IQ.
Should have guessed one or both would not be playing.
Scottie Barnes looks like he owns a gun like this.
ToddTT wrote:I was looking forward to rooting for RJ and IQ.Should have guessed one or both would not be playing.
Both have averaged less games played than OG since trade and cost $60m combined against the cap.
martin wrote:Hornet are hot for months while the Magic were ass for months.Both storylines obliterated in 1 game
That's why I said Knicks in 4.
The prevailing narrative is the Hawks are a tough out and will extend the series until we win in 6 or 7.
It deserved the contrarian POV it will be a sweep.
I do think we can sweep them, but otherwise, I don't have a Fng clue how it will go
Nalod wrote:So think about this. Bancharo's contract is huge. How do you trade that? Waive him? Extend from 4 to 7 years is still massive.
But context and the reality of the moment rather than hindsight genius:He was rookie of the year. 20 years old and kicking ass. Some of you are fawing over Mo like he a sure thing. This kid was really good with that upside still!
age 21? better numbers and an all star!
Year three he plays just 46 games and hurt. He gets a pass right? Thats reasonable.
This year? Last year on the rookie deal and pressing it. Chemistry issues with Bane? No doubt, too much Iso and I'd think Mosley on the hot seat as he has not unlocked Bancharo potential.
Sure, we can sit here as knick fans and lay all kinds of uppity recomendations but if your the GM/President of that team you got to be shaking your head at the luck of this franchise and the injuries as well. Franz Wagner Missed 22 games last year (avg 24pts per!) and this year played just 34. His production is down but perhaps issues with injuries a huge factor.
Mosley a good coach, respected, but perhaps he is not the problem. I don't follow them that closely but I doubt they are giving up on Bancharo to the degree suggested.
We saw the start of last season what they are capable of doing if healthy and they are still a young core. More tweaks? Coaching change? A trade perhaps?
Bancharo is just 23. A bust? THats not a label for ROY or one that made allstar team. A "bust" is one that never reached a level of play. Perhaps Kwmami Brown or Anthony Bennett comes to mind. THis kid had a great beginning two year two year stint in the league, one injured year, and this past one perhaps should be very concerning.
Dude! Why did you feel the need to inject poor little Mo and all of us Mo ass kissers into this?
The issue being discussed was a # 1 pick in the draft costs a bundle to extend.
Compared to a very late 2nd round pick that had no expectations coming into the league, they are completely unrelated situations. Not comparable in the least. Come on man
I said "at those prices" he feels like a bust because if a team wants to change directions and he is now a non-tradeable asset then the franchise overpaid.
BlueKnickers wrote:martin wrote:Hornet are hot for months while the Magic were ass for months.Both storylines obliterated in 1 game
That's why I said Knicks in 4.
The prevailing narrative is the Hawks are a tough out and will extend the series until we win in 6 or 7.
It deserved the contrarian POV it will be a sweep.
I do think we can sweep them, but otherwise, I don't have a Fng clue how it will go
I was gonna change my prediction to a 4 game series but gotta stay in reverse jinx mode
martin wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:martin wrote:Hornet are hot for months while the Magic were ass for months.Both storylines obliterated in 1 game
That's why I said Knicks in 4.
The prevailing narrative is the Hawks are a tough out and will extend the series until we win in 6 or 7.
It deserved the contrarian POV it will be a sweep.
I do think we can sweep them, but otherwise, I don't have a Fng clue how it will go
I was gonna change my prediction to a 4 game series but gotta stay in reverse jinx mode
Between you and I, we've got the inny and the outy, the inverse and the converse, the uptown and downtown, the yin and the yang covered.
BlueKnickers wrote:Nalod wrote:So think about this. Bancharo's contract is huge. How do you trade that? Waive him? Extend from 4 to 7 years is still massive.
But context and the reality of the moment rather than hindsight genius:He was rookie of the year. 20 years old and kicking ass. Some of you are fawing over Mo like he a sure thing. This kid was really good with that upside still!
age 21? better numbers and an all star!
Year three he plays just 46 games and hurt. He gets a pass right? Thats reasonable.
This year? Last year on the rookie deal and pressing it. Chemistry issues with Bane? No doubt, too much Iso and I'd think Mosley on the hot seat as he has not unlocked Bancharo potential.
Sure, we can sit here as knick fans and lay all kinds of uppity recomendations but if your the GM/President of that team you got to be shaking your head at the luck of this franchise and the injuries as well. Franz Wagner Missed 22 games last year (avg 24pts per!) and this year played just 34. His production is down but perhaps issues with injuries a huge factor.
Mosley a good coach, respected, but perhaps he is not the problem. I don't follow them that closely but I doubt they are giving up on Bancharo to the degree suggested.
We saw the start of last season what they are capable of doing if healthy and they are still a young core. More tweaks? Coaching change? A trade perhaps?
Bancharo is just 23. A bust? THats not a label for ROY or one that made allstar team. A "bust" is one that never reached a level of play. Perhaps Kwmami Brown or Anthony Bennett comes to mind. THis kid had a great beginning two year two year stint in the league, one injured year, and this past one perhaps should be very concerning.
Dude! Why did you feel the need to inject poor little Mo and all of us Mo ass kissers into this?
The issue being discussed was a # 1 pick in the draft costs a bundle to extend.
Compared to a very late 2nd round pick that had no expectations coming into the league, they are completely unrelated situations. Not comparable in the least. Come on man
I said "at those prices" he feels like a bust because if a team wants to change directions and he is now a non-tradeable asset then the franchise overpaid.
You implied the obvious but not that quote in parentheses.
Nalod wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:Nalod wrote:So think about this. Bancharo's contract is huge. How do you trade that? Waive him? Extend from 4 to 7 years is still massive.
But context and the reality of the moment rather than hindsight genius:He was rookie of the year. 20 years old and kicking ass. Some of you are fawing over Mo like he a sure thing. This kid was really good with that upside still!
age 21? better numbers and an all star!
Year three he plays just 46 games and hurt. He gets a pass right? Thats reasonable.
This year? Last year on the rookie deal and pressing it. Chemistry issues with Bane? No doubt, too much Iso and I'd think Mosley on the hot seat as he has not unlocked Bancharo potential.
Sure, we can sit here as knick fans and lay all kinds of uppity recomendations but if your the GM/President of that team you got to be shaking your head at the luck of this franchise and the injuries as well. Franz Wagner Missed 22 games last year (avg 24pts per!) and this year played just 34. His production is down but perhaps issues with injuries a huge factor.
Mosley a good coach, respected, but perhaps he is not the problem. I don't follow them that closely but I doubt they are giving up on Bancharo to the degree suggested.
We saw the start of last season what they are capable of doing if healthy and they are still a young core. More tweaks? Coaching change? A trade perhaps?
Bancharo is just 23. A bust? THats not a label for ROY or one that made allstar team. A "bust" is one that never reached a level of play. Perhaps Kwmami Brown or Anthony Bennett comes to mind. THis kid had a great beginning two year two year stint in the league, one injured year, and this past one perhaps should be very concerning.
Dude! Why did you feel the need to inject poor little Mo and all of us Mo ass kissers into this?
The issue being discussed was a # 1 pick in the draft costs a bundle to extend.
Compared to a very late 2nd round pick that had no expectations coming into the league, they are completely unrelated situations. Not comparable in the least. Come on man
I said "at those prices" he feels like a bust because if a team wants to change directions and he is now a non-tradeable asset then the franchise overpaid.
You implied the obvious but not that quote in parentheses.
Oh, I see, so you needlessly labored over the semantics of the word "bust" when you already knew I provided all of the context necessary to understand EXACTLY what I meant. I tend to be pretty meticulous about the points I make. It is not like you misunderstood my point that he may be overpaid and untradeable which you just admitted.
You knew what I meant and yet you still posted contemptuous drivel trying to stick it to me.
Somehow you used this unnecessary exercise over semantics to squeeze in yet another one of your boring and redundant razzings of the circle jerkers of the Cult of Mo.
What the hell is wrong with you? He's a rookie. Some of us are fans of his and think his upside is possibly great. Maybe he'll thrive, maybe he won't, nobody knows the future. You want to talk about Mo? Fine. But your repeated backhanded insults about fans of Mo are juvenile, particularly when injected into completely unrelated topics. Just shut up about it already.
This is not a place to be correct about everything said. It's just dudes talking about a game they follow. We don't need you thought policing us.
I'll move on again after this post. I don't hold on to stuff like you do, but if you keep repeating insults I will throw it back in your face. Keep me and your references alluding to me out of your posts.
Try and figure out how to state an opinion without trying to take someone down.
I don't know what other people have let you get away with before, but you cannot be that antagonistic towards me and not expect to get called out. Nobody else here is behaving like you are. Everyone else is being chill and respectful and just swapping comments and jokes.
No insults. WE talking about your post.
We talking busts.
At the same time Lamelo Ball is in a similar space. Shows great ability but stagenates. The contract is an albotross.
Im not the one blasting with hindsight brilliance how a team should have done things difference.
If thats insulting and don' want to talk about what you write, either move on or just do the adult thing which is admit when you missed something.
Nalod wrote:No insults. WE talking about your post.
We talking busts.
At the same time Lamelo Ball is in a similar space. Shows great ability but stagenates. The contract is an albotross.
Im not the one blasting with hindsight brilliance how a team should have done things difference.
If thats insulting and don' want to talk about what you write, either move on or just do the adult thing which is admit when you missed something.
Now you're gaslighting acting like you weren't the one provoking a confrontation.
How convenient of you to sidestep any accountability for the insertion of your Mo fan insults into an unrelated topic.
I don't have any more time for your games. You're the one behaving like a child. Leave me out of your narrative from now on.
You have plenty of time for this
Haha Lakers too. Man knicks had the 3rd pick once
Honestly think the Pistons are in trouble against ORL. ORL neuters their biggest advantage and has more offensive weapons on the other end. CLE might get a cakewalk to the ECF.
