Off Topic · OT: Yankees get RANDY JOHNSON!!! (page 1)

Bonn1997 @ 12/16/2004 9:12 PM
It's a good day for NY! I'm so excited!

http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-sprandy...
Marv @ 12/16/2004 9:14 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

It's a good day for NY! I'm so excited!

http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-sprandy...

Holy crap in my pants!! And we lost the choker bum Vasquez too! I'm so happy I'm going to punch a wall with Kevin and then share a tube of cream with Jason!!!
Bonn1997 @ 12/16/2004 9:17 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:

It's a good day for NY! I'm so excited!

http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-sprandy...

Holy crap in my pants!! And we lost the choker bum Vasquez too! I'm so happy I'm going to punch a wall with Kevin and then share a tube of cream with Jason!!!
I wish we had had Randy this year to pitch against Boston!
Bonn1997 @ 12/16/2004 9:17 PM
Randy Johsnon: 6'10". I bet he would be a better SF than Tim Thomas!!!
Marv @ 12/16/2004 9:22 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Randy Johsnon: 6'10". I bet he would be a better SF than Tim Thomas!!!

Think of the outlet passes!
martin @ 12/16/2004 9:32 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:

It's a good day for NY! I'm so excited!

http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-sprandy...

Holy crap in my pants!! And we lost the choker bum Vasquez too! I'm so happy I'm going to punch a wall with Kevin and then share a tube of cream with Jason!!!

ROLFLMAO
Bonn1997 @ 12/16/2004 9:34 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:

It's a good day for NY! I'm so excited!

http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-sprandy...

Holy crap in my pants!! And we lost the choker bum Vasquez too! I'm so happy I'm going to punch a wall with Kevin and then share a tube of cream with Jason!!!

ROLFLMAO
Yeah, that's a classic
Knicksfan @ 12/16/2004 10:00 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Randy Johsnon: 6'10". I bet he would be a better SF than Tim Thomas!!!

LOL!!! Sad but true!
Starks3 @ 12/16/2004 10:05 PM
who cares! lets go mets
Knicksfan @ 12/16/2004 10:05 PM
The Yanks lost prospects Eric Duncan and Dionner Navarro...
Knicksfan @ 12/16/2004 10:21 PM
NY's New Big Three:

Johnson
Mussina
Pavano

Lets see who will make the final 2...
Knicksfan @ 12/16/2004 10:22 PM
Now go and get Beltran
fishmike @ 12/16/2004 10:33 PM
wow... George's organizational philophy: Win at all costs. Only a championship is considered a success.
Bonn1997 @ 12/16/2004 10:38 PM
Posted by fishmike:

wow... George's organizational philophy: Win at all costs. Only a championship is considered a success.
That's the way it should be!

I'm sure the Knicks would be able to pull this stuff off too if there were no salary cap
Bonn1997 @ 12/16/2004 10:46 PM
This article says it's not final yet
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story...

Yankees close to 3-way trade for Unit
ESPN.com news services
Randy Johnson was on the verge Thursday of joining the New York Yankees in a three-team mega-trade that also includes Shawn Green and Javier Vazquez.


Green would be dealt from Los Angeles to Arizona while Vazquez would move from the Yankees to the Dodgers in the trade that would put the 41-year-old Johnson in Yankee pinstripes.


The other players involved in the proposed deal were Dodgers pitchers Brad Penny and Yhency Brazoban, and Yankees prospects Eric Duncan and Dioner Navarro.


There was no confirmation from any of the teams that a deal had been finalized.


"We're still in conversations with a lot of different clubs about a lot of different possibilities," Dodgers general manager Paul DePodesta said earlier in the day. "We have talked about some three-way deals and some four-way deals.


"I don't know if it's going to happen or not."


There reportedly are issues that must still be worked out between the Yankees and Dodgers over Vazquez's salary; he is due $34.5 million over the next three seasons and Los Angeles apparently wants help footing the bill.


Both Johnson and Green have no-trade clauses. The Big Unit has desired a trade to the Yankees for months, and the deal won't happen without his approval. Green's former agent is Jeff Moorad, who is the Diamondback's incoming CEO, so it's expected that Green, who is due $16 million in 2005, would approve the trade.


The Yankees also are expected to sign Johnson to a contract extension. He will make $16 million in '05, the final year of his contract.


Johnson was a Montreal Expos second-round draft pick in 1985. He signed with Arizona on Dec. 10, 1998, and won the Cy Young Award in each of his first four seasons in the desert. He finished second to Houston's Roger Clemens in this year's voting. Johnson also won a Cy Young Award in Seattle, where he played from 1989-98.


Johnson finished with a 16-14 record in 2004, but he led the majors in strikeouts with 290 and was second in the majors with a 2.60 ERA despite coming off knee surgery. In a season in which Arizona lost a franchise-worst 111 games, Johnson pitched a perfect game, passed 4,000 career strikeouts and passed Steve Carlton to become the most prolific left-handed strikeout pitcher in history. He ranks No. 3 on the strikeout list behind Nolan Ryan and Clemens.
gunsnewing @ 12/17/2004 12:22 AM
oh god please let it be final

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12/17/2004 08:17:17]
Nalod @ 12/17/2004 12:44 AM
Posted by fishmike:

wow... George's organizational philophy: Win at all costs. Only a championship is considered a success.

Randy at Forward, excellent!

THere is no bigger Starphucher than Steinbrenner!

Give up a 28 year old power pitcher after one so-so year, your two best minor leaguers (posada will 34!, cathers don't last very long!) for a 41year old with bad knees! Only George.

Beltran must be on the radar.

Yanks are so greedy, it sometimes embarassing to be a fan!

We are the Evil Empire, but we must win one again soon! Otherwise it looks real bad!
Rich @ 12/17/2004 5:51 AM
The reason this is a horrible trade is because the Yankees had all the leverage. Arizona was desperate to trade RJ, and the only team that he would agree to waive his no trade clause for is the Yankees. Yet, George, in his egomanical way, caved in to unreasonable demands because the Mets got Pedro, and being the shallow fool that he is, he couldn't stand the loss of the buzz in NY for even a few days.

This trade will cost the Yankees for years, because similar to the '80s, every GM will think that George will overpay when he wants a player, and they will hold the Yankees up. Stick was able to erase that perception in the '90s, and the result was that Jeter, Bernie, Po, Mo, and Pettitte were not wasted on short-sighted deals like this.
gunsnewing @ 12/17/2004 8:18 AM
please...they've been trying to get RJ since last season dude
Knicksfan @ 12/17/2004 8:31 AM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by fishmike:

wow... George's organizational philophy: Win at all costs. Only a championship is considered a success.

Randy at Forward, excellent!

THere is no bigger Starphucher than Steinbrenner!

Give up a 28 year old power pitcher after one so-so year, your two best minor leaguers (posada will 34!, cathers don't last very long!) for a 41year old with bad knees! Only George.

Beltran must be on the radar.

Yanks are so greedy, it sometimes embarassing to be a fan!

We are the Evil Empire, but we must win one again soon! Otherwise it looks real bad!

I really was against a RJ trade in which we had to give up Vazquez. I still think that last season he had a so-so year because of his adaptation to NY and I really wanted him to become a star with the Yankees. Its sad that so many pieces of the Yanks future are going away for a guy that may not have many seasons left. Still, this is the Yankees reaction after their team choked up last series and became the first team to lose a series after leading 3-0. Definitely George was going to do something drastic to change this team.

Last night they where repeating that 7th game as a Classic and I got to see again the Grand Slam from Johnny Damon... It hurt... After that series I would've wanted to trade everyone... That must be George's thinking. When he signed Vazquez he thought he had a future star and that he could wait for him to adapt because the Yankees as a veteran team would be fine. He didn't count with his team making such horrible history. If there is a year in which George wants to win it at all costs, this is the one. And this choker team better perform next season...

(Still, I would've been happy with Vazquez having a second chance... Sad...)
Nalod @ 12/17/2004 11:20 AM
With George its Win NOW, Spend NOW!

With unlimited funds, they can do what they want. They might be able to unload players in the future for prospects in reverse.

THe core of the team was built in the minors. The 1998 team was not a Starphuched team, it was home grown and built with trades.

That 1998 team was one of the most enjoyable seasons I can remember.

This Current team losing to boston was not so painful. This collection of players has no sole. The Giambi thing is disheartning, and Sheff is likely as guilty. He is a gun for hire anyway. I like him, but........

Kevin Brown was a fiasco, the Vasquesz-Contraras-Loaiza thing of the underperforming Latino caving into the NY thing is old and stupid. I was happy to see El Duque make a run, he was part of the 90's magic!

I also hated the redsox for years, but they are into the gun for hire thing and like its hard to love those guys when they are on your team, its almost the same in reverse for the enemy. Who cares!

The NFL has reached parity, but at the same time has homoginized their product into a commodity.

Too many players changing teams makes the chess game of player deals, trades and free agents sometimes more appealing then the game itself!

Anybody think similar?




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