lets see david lee and his vince carter like draft pick value do that tommorrow night
even charlie v has been really good so far another 17 and 6 tonight after 16 6 4 blocks and 3 steals the other night. I want to see OUR 4 year guys put up numbers like these guys--no pssy footing with all the draft picks we surrendered for david lee, he better be darn good
Yeah good to see Gomes doing well and Charlie V. McCants had a good night the other day too. Antoine Wright played well the other night....
It's just pre-season but the guys playing are real NBA players even though it's not for real. it's hard not to play to win so it's still compeditive.
Geez man waiting to see the Knicks play is like waiting on babies!
Posted by BRIGGS:
lets see david lee and his vince carter like draft pick value do that tommorrow night
even charlie v has been really good so far another 17 and 6 tonight after 16 6 4 blocks and 3 steals the other night. I want to see OUR 4 year guys put up numbers like these guys--no pssy footing with all the draft picks we surrendered for david lee, he better be darn good
Ohh Briggs, you never change...
david lee and his vince carter like draft pick value
huh?
all the draft picks we surrendered for david lee
huh?
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
lets see david lee and his vince carter like draft pick value do that tommorrow night
even charlie v has been really good so far another 17 and 6 tonight after 16 6 4 blocks and 3 steals the other night. I want to see OUR 4 year guys put up numbers like these guys--no pssy footing with all the draft picks we surrendered for david lee, he better be darn good
Ohh Briggs, you never change...
its getting annoying, it seems like all you do now Briggs is talk about players on other teams
Posted by Bonn1997:
david lee and his vince carter like draft pick value
huh?
all the draft picks we surrendered for david lee
huh?
He's talking about the speculation that we could've used David Lee instead of picks in the Curry trade.
It is just speculation, though.
man preseason is not the right measure stick to see how good some of these players are....in most game guys are going up against ppl that will never make the main roster
Posted by NYK3:
Posted by Knicksfan:
[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:
lets see david lee and his vince carter like draft pick value do that tommorrow night
even charlie v has been really good so far another 17 and 6 tonight after 16 6 4 blocks and 3 steals the other night. I want to see OUR 4 year guys put up numbers like these guys--no pssy footing with all the draft picks we surrendered for david lee, he better be darn good
Ohh Briggs, you never change...
its getting annoying, it seems like all you do now Briggs is talk about players on other teams
I just want to see our rookies do well, i know little nate is going to do his share, but im not giving a pass , especially to Frye on some rookie BS the guy is older than Amare Stoudmire.
Posted by BRIGGS:
I just want to see our rookies do well, i know little nate is going to do his share, but im not giving a pass , especially to Frye on some rookie BS the guy is older than Amare Stoudmire.
... what?!? Who here has ever predicted that Frye is the second coming of Amare? We came in thinking that Frye will be a running center who has the potential to be a good player. We never drafted him thinking he will be a superstar, and I'm 100% sure Isiah didn't think that either. Would you PLEASE stop railing on our team and pointing out all the "could of should of would of's"? I'd like to see you post a thread about how all the other GMs who didn't draft amare are idiots... why don't you write about that instead? Expecting Frye to do a lot or become a star is setting yourself up for disappointment. We should take whatever we can get out of the young guys as a bonus; their chief goal should be taking chunks of knowledge out of larry brown's brain and developing long term, not posting up 17 points in a preseason game.
I saw Lee outplay the great Gomes last year in he regular season. Briggs are you the great stat man or do you see the other things guys do that wont be in the stat books. Isiah love Lee Paxson does and Larry Brown has been singing his praises as much as anyone. You may be in the minority on this one. Hey arnet you the guy saying Bynum was the 2nd best in the draft. How is he doing this preseason? Bynum and Green will be the flops in the draft.
Posted by teslawlo:
[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:
I just want to see our rookies do well, i know little nate is going to do his share, but im not giving a pass , especially to Frye on some rookie BS the guy is older than Amare Stoudmire.
... what?!? Who here has ever predicted that Frye is the second coming of Amare? We came in thinking that Frye will be a running center who has the potential to be a good player. We never drafted him thinking he will be a superstar, and I'm 100% sure Isiah didn't think that either. Would you PLEASE stop railing on our team and pointing out all the "could of should of would of's"? I'd like to see you post a thread about how all the other GMs who didn't draft amare are idiots... why don't you write about that instead? Expecting Frye to do a lot or become a star is setting yourself up for disappointment. We should take whatever we can get out of the young guys as a bonus; their chief goal should be taking chunks of knowledge out of larry brown's brain and developing long term, not posting up 17 points in a preseason game.
Im talking about stepping up and being our starting 6-11 PF and playing well. Im not comparing him to anyone, he has his own skills. I dont want to hear baby crp about his age as an excuse. hes the 8th pick in the draft and we have shtty PFs --he should start and play well. 13-7
Posted by King1:
I saw Lee outplay the great Gomes last year in he regular season. Briggs are you the great stat man or do you see the other things guys do that wont be in the stat books. Isiah love Lee Paxson does and Larry Brown has been singing his praises as much as anyone. You may be in the minority on this one. Hey arnet you the guy saying Bynum was the 2nd best in the draft. How is he doing this preseason? Bynum and Green will be the flops in the draft.
Well, I highly doubt Lee outplayed Gomes, but that doesnt mean anything. What matters is that Lee produces solid meaningful minutes now for the Knicks.
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:
david lee and his vince carter like draft pick value
huh?
all the draft picks we surrendered for david lee
huh?
He's talking about the speculation that we could've used David Lee instead of picks in the Curry trade.
It is just speculation, though.
Yeah, I know. He's talking about speculation but he always frames it like it's certainty.
Who would have ou drafted in stead of Lee and Frye just curious so we can follow that this year.
The difference Briggs is I watched that game and they both had 17 and Gomes got 17 mostly late since the Friars got beat by 18. How do you know that the Knicks could give up Lee and 1 pick or Lee and 2 picks? How do you know, where the Knicks are going to end up and this year was a very deep draft? I havent been on this board long but you would second guess ther Knicks if they traded for Kobe, Garnett, and Shaq. Who would you have taken in the draft this year?
Folks, don't sweat Briggs. He always has the seldom perodic moment of manic behavior....like male PMS,esing
He's harmless.
Posted by King1:
The difference Briggs is I watched that game and they both had 17 and Gomes got 17 mostly late since the Friars got beat by 18. How do you know that the Knicks could give up Lee and 1 pick or Lee and 2 picks? How do you know, where the Knicks are going to end up and this year was a very deep draft? I havent been on this board long but you would second guess ther Knicks if they traded for Kobe, Garnett, and Shaq. Who would you have taken in the draft this year?
Brigg is pumped up about his boy Bynum. Did anyone see the Bucks against the Pistons. Bogut look determine and ready to go but Ben Wallace out did everything. He held him to like zero field goals for more than 3 quarters. YOu could tell that Bogut was bothered by that and that Wallace was taking it to him. Bogut will probably get alot of that treatment all season. Rookie dues but he look determine and ready to play. Darko looks better too. He outplayed Sweets the other night and had a nice time against Bogut too. I think Frye has come along way from Arizona. From all reports that he has stepped up his intensity especially on defense in camp.
The Knicks took who they should take at all three spots. All were players they and, likely, Brown, had convictions about.
I saw both gomes and charlie play tonight, first off charlie V is going to be a nice NBA player and so is gomes, but looking at gomes game Vs lee game, I still rather have lee for what we are going to do... as far as charlie goes again he looked good but he is not a physical player at all, not at this level..
I'm so tired of this posting of rookies that "we should have taken." You know what your not Isiah Thomas and you werne't in the draft room. No one really cares about Gomes nor Bynum and how their doing now beucase they aren't property of the New York Knicks. The incessant posting of their stats in summer league and preseason games is absolutely meaningless. No one cares what you think of Gomes and Bynum, they arent Knicks and thats the bottomline.
WHO CARES.
Posted by tkf:
I saw both gomes and charlie play tonight, first off charlie V is going to be a nice NBA player and so is gomes, but looking at gomes game Vs lee game, I still rather have lee for what we are going to do... as far as charlie goes again he looked good but he is not a physical player at all, not at this level..
I understand what you're saying. And I agree for that. But in case you han't noticed, all Briggs likes to talk about is stats. A team could get hammered but if they got a 6-11 gut who had over 15 points Briggs is set to crown him King and then he will come back to the Knick boxscore and even though we might have won will compare the two young guys. What you're saying, tkf, is based on team play. This is unserstandable because it's a team sport. You're talking about what Lee is going to do based on team concept. This will fall on deaf ears with Briggs because even if Lee and Frye provide the numbers they are asked to and step up to do what coach Brown asks them to do all wothin a winning season....none of this will matter. His issue will be personal stats on those guys.
Translation: If we as a team do terribly but the rookies put up big numbers he'd be happy. But if the rookies do what is required for the New York Knicks to win and put up modest numbers he'll be made. Winning season and all.
