Off Topic · OT: What is the greatest hip hop song of the summer? (page 8)

bigpimpin @ 6/23/2007 3:58 PM
DMX is washed up.
Caseloads @ 6/23/2007 3:59 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by bigpimpin:

lol @ this dude posting puffy combs. See this is the type of Shit I am talking about.

Right here.

look, we all know puffy was a chump

and DMX, he was live, but why was he caught stealing a car at JFK? this is after he blew up... dumb cats

Actually DMX has let drugs ruin his career but along with bigpimpin talking album sells. Every single last one of DMX albums debut #1 on the Billboard charts and I believe every single one of them went platinum. That's 6 albums So DMX was straight and I know Lil Wayne hasn't done that.
slippin was his best track
TrueBlue @ 6/23/2007 4:01 PM
Posted by bigpimpin:

DMX is washed up.

In other words I have nothing to say. You really need to calm down and thousand and stop twisting.
Cookdcokehop @ 6/23/2007 4:03 PM
DMX is a coke head now. It's sad. Some of my favs...



Caseloads @ 6/23/2007 4:04 PM
Posted by Caseloads:


funny song - built like that

Timbo - where your bugatti at?!

Timothy - "we know that wasnt you on that ice box record neither!"
Caseloads @ 6/23/2007 4:12 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

DMX is a coke head now. It's sad. Some of my favs...

tight
TrueBlue @ 6/23/2007 4:16 PM
Nah this was the best DMX track by far







What's My Name

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-23-2007 3:18 PM]
izybx @ 6/23/2007 4:26 PM
Im surprised this thread got revived. Pimpin, Im 24, I grew up on gunhill road and webster ave in the bronx. Ive seen drugs destroy family members, friends get shot, people you love get locked up for years. Dont give me this "our generation smokes purp, sells dope, pops collars, rides 24s". I think its insulting and demeaning, cause the fact is that the majority of people who buy the music that you enjoy arent in that life, they are middle class sururban white kids who dont have a clue.

I think to try to lump people who grew up in that environment as about drugs and rims, or whatever, is ignorant as hell. If you are white I would say that it is racist, and I usually dont pull that card very often. Theres intelligent people that grew up living that life, that have more going on for them then smoking piff and popping collars or whatever clown shit these guys talk about. So I dont see how you can say that thats what this generation identifies with.

I like intelligent music. I think theres good hip hop put there that involves more than millionaire rappers rapping about things they know nothing about. But if you like little wayne then thats fine. But dont try to equate that lifestyle with being real, or being from the ghetto. Cause like I said, the people who buy his music know nothing about it.
Cookdcokehop @ 6/23/2007 4:29 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Nah this was the best DMX track by far







What's My Name

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-23-2007 3:18 PM]

classic

Cookdcokehop @ 6/23/2007 4:31 PM
Posted by izybx:

Im surprised this thread got revived. Pimpin, Im 24, I grew up on gunhill road and webster ave in the bronx. Ive seen drugs destroy family members, friends get shot, people you love get locked up for years. Dont give me this "our generation smokes purp, sells dope, pops collars, rides 24s". I think its insulting and demeaning, cause the fact is that the majority of people who buy the music that you enjoy arent in that life, they are middle class sururban white kids who dont have a clue.

I think to try to lump people who grew up in that environment as about drugs and rims, or whatever, is ignorant as hell. If you are white I would say that it is racist, and I usually dont pull that card very often. Theres intelligent people that grew up living that life, that have more going on for them then smoking piff and popping collars or whatever clown shit these guys talk about. So I dont see how you can say that thats what this generation identifies with.

I like intelligent music. I think theres good hip hop put there that involves more than millionaire rappers rapping about things they know nothing about. But if you like little wayne then thats fine. But dont try to equate that lifestyle with being real, or being from the ghetto. Cause like I said, the people who buy his music know nothing about it.

Real Talk. I lived on Gun Hill and Paulding and I seen the same shit.
bigbeast @ 6/23/2007 4:45 PM
BP- Since when does Lil' Wayne sell more than Jay-z? Post the numbers to prove that. BTW, sales aint everything. If it was all about sales, M C Hammer must be the greatest of all times.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 23-06-2007 5:02 PM]
bigbeast @ 6/23/2007 4:54 PM
BP- I understand that your generation feel that Lil Wayne is the hottest out right now. Thats fine. But, to brush aside the opinions of people who are older than you are inmature. I have a much broader base to compare Lil' Wayne to than you. I was around when Rakim (the greatest lyricist of all time) dropped and completely changed the game and moved it to the level where it is now.

Case and point, you say Lil wayne is the hottest right now, but lyrically speaking, I can go back a bunc of summers and pick the hottest emcee of the moment and most are better than Wayne.

Melle Mel
Rakim
Kane
KRS-one
G-Rap
Ice Cube
Chuck D
Nas
Raekwon
Pac
Biggie
Jayz
Big Pun
Eminem,
Common, etc...all of these rappers held the crown for one summer at least and all of them at their peaks, were a notch above Wayne lyrically.


[Edited by - bigbeast on 23-06-2007 5:15 PM]

[Edited by - bigbeast on 23-06-2007 5:24 PM]
Caseloads @ 6/23/2007 4:57 PM
Posted by bigbeast:

BP- I understand that your generation feel that Lil Wayne is the hottest out right now. Thats fine. But, to brush aside the opinions of people who are older than you are inmature. I have a much broader base to compare Lil' Wayne to than you. I was around when Rakim (the greatest lyricist of all time) dropped and completely changed the game and moved it to the level where it is now.

Case and point, you say Lil wayne is the hottest right now, but lyrically speaking, I can go back a bunc of summers and pick the hottest emcee of the moment and most are better than Wayne.

Rakim
Kane
KRS-one
G-Rap
Ice Cube
Nas
Raekwon
Pac
Biggie
Jayz
Big Pun
Eminem, etc...all of these rappers held the crown for one summer at least and all of them at their peaks, were a notch above Wayne lyrically.
Pun was serious - tightest rapper probably.
bigbeast @ 6/23/2007 5:01 PM
One of the main problems with the rap game now, is its sutarated with too many former hustlers or guys who are only in the game for the money and not for the art. There aren't too many more true artists in the game that are innovative, creative and push the art to another level.

The drug game has for the most part dried up, so rap has becaome the new hustle. on one hand its good to see young men making money legally, but on the other hand the art has suffered tremendously.

The rap game now dumbed-down and simple. People are using 2,3 and 4 syallables now "Hey bebe", "This is why I'm hot", "Its going down." The game is stagnant and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon of the latest trends and just following them.
bigbeast @ 6/23/2007 5:11 PM
Posted by Caseloads:



Damn. I miss the old Canibus. He was a monster back in 98. "Lyrical schola/ the physical form of Alah/ peoples will tell you that I'm nice with the Blah, Blah, Blahh"

"I'll jump into the back seat of a cab and rhyme/ till the meter says 9-9-9-9..."


"My style of rhyming distorts time/its like trying to explain color to a person who was born blind/"

I just downloaded a bunch of old mixtape fresstyles from him.
CDB @ 6/23/2007 5:16 PM
Posted by bigpimpin:

No one has bothered to realize Lil Wayne sells more CDs than Jay Z

Im new here and I have been a long time reader but that is so ignorant.

Jay blows Wayne away when it comes to sells. Jay is 10x better than wayne lyriclly and in every other way.

Reasonable Doubt - 2x Platnium, sold more than 2 mil, 422,000 first week.
In My Lifetime, Vol. 1 - 2x Platinum, sold over 2 mil
Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life(my favorite) - over 5x Platinum, sold over 9 million in the U.S., over 8 Million worldwide
Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter - 3x Platnium, sold over 3 million, almost half a mil it's first week
The Dynasty: Roc La Familia - 2x platinum, sold more than 2.3 million copies, 557,000 first week
The Blueprint(A Hip Hop classic) - 2x Platinum, sold over 2.5 million copies, 426,000 first week
The Blueprint²: The Gift & the Curse - 4x platnium, sold over 4 million copies in the era of bootlegging CD's, 545,000 first week
The Black Album - 3x platnium, sold over 3 million copies, 463,000 first week
Kingdom Come - 1x platnium, Sold way over 1 million copies and counting,680,000 copies first week which is music history.

For Wayne
Tha Block is Hot - Never went platnium or barely gold
Lights Out - Barely went over gold
500 Degreez (Which was his best) - sold 536,000 copies in the U.S. and over 900,000 copies worldwide
The Carter - Platnium, Dont know the exact #
The Carter 2 - Platnium, Dont know the exact #


So there is noway you can say that Lil Wayne ever outselled one of the higest selling hip hop artist which I think he came in 3rd or 2nd.



[Edited by - CDB on 06-23-2007 5:18 PM]

[Edited by - CDB on 06-23-2007 5:24 PM]

[Edited by - CDB on 06-23-2007 5:27 PM]
Caseloads @ 6/23/2007 5:35 PM
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by Caseloads:



Damn. I miss the old Canibus. He was a monster back in 98. "Lyrical schola/ the physical form of Alah/ peoples will tell you that I'm nice with the Blah, Blah, Blahh"

"I'll jump into the back seat of a cab and rhyme/ till the meter says 9-9-9-9..."


"My style of rhyming distorts time/its like trying to explain color to a person who was born blind/"

I just downloaded a bunch of old mixtape fresstyles from him.
cant believe he let wyclef produce him
bigpimpin @ 6/23/2007 5:47 PM
I swear to God yall dudes are lost.

I don't know what rich white people do. I wasn't there.

All I know is that the person who spit this ill music is talking about the same stuff I do.

Damn what the rich white kids do. They are fake anyways.
bigpimpin @ 6/23/2007 5:48 PM
Posted by bigbeast:

BP- Since when does Lil' Wayne sell more than Jay-z? Post the numbers to prove that. BTW, sales aint everything. If it was all about sales, M C Hammer must be the greatest of all times.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 23-06-2007 5:02 PM]

Another D student.

Why tell me that sales aint everything but tell me to post the numbers?!?

Back in the 90s when hip hop was that BS, yeah, Hammer sold like that. But now with this fire shit out here, aint nobody listening to MC Hammer.

I'm talking about 2007

bigpimpin @ 6/23/2007 5:50 PM
all of these rappers held the crown for one summer at least and all of them at their peaks, were a notch above Wayne lyrically

Who said it was about lyrics?
CDB @ 6/23/2007 5:57 PM
Posted by bigpimpin:
all of these rappers held the crown for one summer at least and all of them at their peaks, were a notch above Wayne lyrically

Who said it was about lyrics?

Then whats the point of rapping when you dont have any lyrical skills. That is why it is wack now because guys like cam'ron can getaway with saying things like "That rooti, tooti, fruity, Louie, what I usually do" and Wayne with half the garbage things he says.
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