Off Topic · Loose Change Final Cut NOV 2007***** (page 1)

playa2 @ 12/3/2007 8:48 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

Be informed , stop being a sheeple.

Watch it in intervals write down the time and continue later.
Silverfuel @ 12/3/2007 8:52 AM
Good find playa. I cannot wait to see what changes have been made.
Silverfuel @ 12/4/2007 3:58 PM
I got one for you playa: Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/dec...
izybx @ 12/5/2007 6:46 AM
playa, im intested in hearing your opinion about the article published in popular mechanics, a decidedly nonpolitical magazine. Keep in mind that the panel that came to these conclusions was comprised of actual experts.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technolo...

I have noticed that you have posted some of the same theories that are rebutted in this article, and i am curious to see if you can defend your postion with facts as supposed to further speculation of conspiracy or mysterious internet sources.

izybx @ 12/5/2007 6:50 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

I got one for you playa: Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/dec...

Im disapointed in you, I never would have lumped you in with other misguided people who believe that this great nation attacked ourselves in order to engage in a relativly unsuccesful war that has cost our country trillions of dollars (oh, its because the oil companies could make a few billion...how did we steal iraqs oil again?). I challenge you people to produce FACTS. FACTS.

As far as your article, i have noticed there are no direct qoutes, no evidence, no nothing except a brief summation that says basically, "he knew that it was a conspriracy between us and the jews". That sounds VERY legit.

[Edited by - izybx on 05-12-2007 06:52 AM]
playa2 @ 12/5/2007 9:31 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

I got one for you playa: Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/dec...

Excellent find Silver, I refuse to try and convince the naysayers anymore they have been bamboozled and won't come to grips with where our country is headed(police state).

Silverfuel @ 12/5/2007 3:06 PM
Posted by izybx:
Posted by Silverfuel:

I got one for you playa: Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/dec...

Im disapointed in you, I never would have lumped you in with other misguided people who believe that this great nation attacked ourselves in order to engage in a relativly unsuccesful war that has cost our country trillions of dollars (oh, its because the oil companies could make a few billion...how did we steal iraqs oil again?). I challenge you people to produce FACTS. FACTS.

As far as your article, i have noticed there are no direct qoutes, no evidence, no nothing except a brief summation that says basically, "he knew that it was a conspriracy between us and the jews". That sounds VERY legit.

[Edited by - izybx on 05-12-2007 06:52 AM]
Take it easy man. I am not at all saying it was an inside job but you have to admit there is reason for controversy there. Also, this country is really headed in the wrong direction. Illegal wiretaps, arrests without warrants, trampling on civil rights, habeas corpus, immoral wars and the weakening economy are all indications of weak government.

The article was not mine or my find. I just thought I would share it with playa because we have talked about this before. What is wrong with sharing articles? So what if their claims aren't substantial? Shouldn't he and the other readers have the right to get to that decision themselves? Don't silence the voices that oppose you because they say something you don't want to hear. There is a scandal there.
izybx @ 12/7/2007 6:25 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by izybx:
Posted by Silverfuel:

I got one for you playa: Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/dec...

Im disapointed in you, I never would have lumped you in with other misguided people who believe that this great nation attacked ourselves in order to engage in a relativly unsuccesful war that has cost our country trillions of dollars (oh, its because the oil companies could make a few billion...how did we steal iraqs oil again?). I challenge you people to produce FACTS. FACTS.

As far as your article, i have noticed there are no direct qoutes, no evidence, no nothing except a brief summation that says basically, "he knew that it was a conspriracy between us and the jews". That sounds VERY legit.

[Edited by - izybx on 05-12-2007 06:52 AM]
Take it easy man. I am not at all saying it was an inside job but you have to admit there is reason for controversy there. Also, this country is really headed in the wrong direction. Illegal wiretaps, arrests without warrants, trampling on civil rights, habeas corpus, immoral wars and the weakening economy are all indications of weak government.

The article was not mine or my find. I just thought I would share it with playa because we have talked about this before. What is wrong with sharing articles? So what if their claims aren't substantial? Shouldn't he and the other readers have the right to get to that decision themselves? Don't silence the voices that oppose you because they say something you don't want to hear. There is a scandal there.

Youre right, i didnt mean for my article to sound like a perosnal attack or anything, you have every right to share articles and to come to any conclusion that you want to. My apologies.
playa2 @ 12/19/2007 7:37 AM
WE MUST NOT FORGET
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