Off Topic · OT: Is Roger Clemens a Pedophile? (page 1)

Clemens is suing McNamee over defamation. McNamee's team is going to air Clemen's dirty laundry so if damages are awarded, they are minimal. Anyway, I bolded the part that disturbs me.

NEW YORK -- Saying "all is fair game," lawyers for Roger Clemens' former personal trainer Brian McNamee say they intend to capitalize on allegations of an extra-marital affair involving Clemens and a country music singer in defending a defamation suit Clemens filed against McNamee.

The New York Daily News, citing "several" unnamed sources, reported on its Web site Sunday night that Clemens and country singer Mindy McCready had a decade-long affair. Clemens' lawyer, Rusty Hardin, said Clemens and McCready had a friendship and nothing more.

"If true, it's just another example of Roger's pervasive prevarications which will be at the core of any defamation case," said McNamee's attorney, Richard Emery, in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

"He flatly denies having had any kind of an inappropriate relationship with her," Hardin said, according to the Daily News. "He's considered her a close family friend ... He has never had a sexual relationship with her."

"The issue in Roger's suit against McNamee is Roger's reputation and how it has been damaged," Emery said, according to the Daily News. "If it's proved that he's a philanderer, his reputation is already damaged. When you sue for defamation, you put your whole reputation in the community at issue. Anything is fair game, including his claim of sanctimonious purity. We would cross-examine him and other witnesses who might impact on his alleged behavior. We would probably subpoena her and witnesses who knew [of the relationship]. He's a 'family man' -- he implies that. It's about what his damages are. All is fair game."

McCready's lawyer, Lee Ofman, said he did not have any comment on the Daily News story, according to the Associated Press.

Clemens filed a defamation suit against McNamee on Jan. 6. Clemens is under investigation for perjury relating to his testimony before Congress earlier this year involving the use of performance-enhancing drugs.

The allegations, according to the Daily News, claim Clemens was 28 when he first had contact with McCready. She was 15 when he noticed her at a Fort Myers, Fla., bar while out with his Red Sox teammates, according to the Daily News.

The Daily News report made no mention of when the alleged affair began.

McCready is attempting a comeback after seeing her career hit the skids, after her first album went platinum. She was arrested for prescription fraud in 2004, according to the Daily News, and had a son with Billy McKnight.

A documentary on her life is scheduled to begin filming in Nashville, according to the Daily News. A new album and reality show are also planned.

"She's trying to get back to where she was early in her career," said Michael Freeman, the president of Iconic Records who is the executive producer on McCready's "Fallen Angel" documentary and her "Mending Mindy" reality series. "She's a great person, and this will help her get back in the good graces with the industry."

According to the Daily News, McCready and Clemens traveled together and she attended a game at Yankee Stadium at one point. She and other members of her family also flew on a plane provided by Clemens, according to the Daily News and Hardin.

Hardin told the Daily News that Clemens' wife, Debbie, knew McCready. The Daily News, without citing a source, said McNamee "has confirmed that he saw Clemens and McCready together on many occasions."

The Daily News said Clemens sent cash to McCready to help her with legal issues and reached out to her when she was in jail last year in Tennessee for violating probation after allegedly hitting her mother.

Clemens told Congress on Feb. 13 that his family has been vital to him during his career.

"Anyone who has spent time around me knows that my family is and has always been my top priority," it said in a portion of the opening statement he delivered. "My wife, Debbie, and my sons -- Koby, Kory, Kacy and Kody -- mean more to me than anything in the world."

Information from The Associated Press is included in this report

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3371824

Everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt unless there's unequivocal evidence against them. Nothing in this article comes remotely close to indicating they had a sexual relationship.

dj was telling me the other day that 15 is the new 21.

Posted by fishmike:

dj was telling me the other day that 15 is the new 21.

Makes sense. When I was 15 I was screwing a gorgeous 21 year old blond.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-28-2008 4:13 PM]

Only when he was a member of the Red Sox.

Hey, if he was injecting her with HGH, she probably looked at least 25.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by fishmike:

dj was telling me the other day that 15 is the new 21.

Makes sense. When I was 15 I was screwing a gorgeous 21 year old blond.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-28-2008 4:13 PM]

You're golden retriever doesn't count.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by fishmike:

dj was telling me the other day that 15 is the new 21.

Makes sense. When I was 15 I was screwing a gorgeous 21 year old blond.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-28-2008 4:13 PM]

You're golden retriever doesn't count.

ZING!!!

I dont know if enough evidence has surfaced to say that he is a certifiable, 'To catch a predator candidate', but what is for certain is that he is shady as fluck. We all saw warning signs (Piazza bat throwing incident, exceptional productivity at a later age) but the media chose to ignore it until confronted. Cant say the same for Bonds.

Posted by sebstar:

I dont know if enough evidence has surfaced to say that he is a certifiable, 'To catch a predator candidate', but what is for certain is that he is shady as fluck. We all saw warning signs (Piazza bat throwing incident, exceptional productivity at a later age) but the media chose to ignore it until confronted. Cant say the same for Bonds.

None of that makes him a pedophile!

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by sebstar:

I dont know if enough evidence has surfaced to say that he is a certifiable, 'To catch a predator candidate', but what is for certain is that he is shady as fluck. We all saw warning signs (Piazza bat throwing incident, exceptional productivity at a later age) but the media chose to ignore it until confronted. Cant say the same for Bonds.

None of that makes him a pedophile!

say what now?

Posted by eViL:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by fishmike:

dj was telling me the other day that 15 is the new 21.

Makes sense. When I was 15 I was screwing a gorgeous 21 year old blond.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-28-2008 4:13 PM]

You're golden retriever doesn't count.

ZING!!!

At least Nalod didn't come in and suggest that it was a blonde male.

For some reason, Bonn opens himself up to those kinds of jokes.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by fishmike:

dj was telling me the other day that 15 is the new 21.

Makes sense. When I was 15 I was screwing a gorgeous 21 year old blond.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-28-2008 4:13 PM]

You're golden retriever doesn't count.

Nor do his fantasies of Dee Snider:

ROFL... damn, u guys are brutal.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by sebstar:

I dont know if enough evidence has surfaced to say that he is a certifiable, 'To catch a predator candidate', but what is for certain is that he is shady as fluck. We all saw warning signs (Piazza bat throwing incident, exceptional productivity at a later age) but the media chose to ignore it until confronted. Cant say the same for Bonds.

None of that makes him a pedophile!

I actually have to preface this. I hate Roger Clemens. I used to be a big fan. No more. So, if this post sounds mean and bitter. Well, that's because it is but it's not directed at you Bonn.

I--and I think most of us--think The New York Daily News has more integrity than Roger Clemens. It's gotten to the point where when Good-Year-Blimp-Head opens his mouth, I believe the exact opposite to be true. He says he didn't have an affair with her, I don't believe him. Hell, he even threw his wife under the bus. What an ass clown. I wanted him to wear a Yankees cap in Cooperstown... now I hope wears the Red Sox cap, so they'll endure the eternal shame of being associated with Roger Clemens.

I know I should be saying, "innocent until proven guilty" too. But I expect the worst in people due to the whores that came into my life this past year. Soulless, bloodsucking whores. There is a nice girl in my life now, which is nice. But forgive me if I don't see the sparkle in everyone's inner nature at the moment.

What makes Roger Clemens a likely pedophile is he's a piece of shit. He's the biggest piece of shit to hit the streets of New York City this past year. A bigger piece of shit than Isiah Thomas, Stephon Marbury, or Elliot Spitzer. Clemens is the Golden Texas Boy who thinks the rules in no way, shape, or form apply to him. I think this because Andy Pettite is a GREAT guy. He admitted to every claim McNamee made against him. And, again, he threw his wife under the bus. I watched his testimony too. I'm not saying I get them right all the time, but I play cards and usually the guys who deliver an over-the-top presentation are full of it. Clemens performance reminded me of another lying piece of shit, Rafeal Palmiero.

He probably thought President Bush could get him off, because he's a moron to boot. He probably wanted to nail the hot new country star in Texas and knew he could because (a) he's a famous baseball player and (b) SHE IS 15!!! I mean, he introduced himself AT A BAR.

I know when I go to the bar, I introduce myself, try to be witty, charming, and funny, then say something like "your hair smells nice" or "do you want to go somewhere more comfortable?" I'm not trying to talk about Luke's Gospel or about the interest section of my resume.

I mean, this is worse than, "get in da truck." This is more like, "come here and have a lollipop."

If she is out at a bar he may have assumed initially that she was of age. I think if he was a pedophile there would be other incidents that would come up.

Posted by CrushAlot:

If she is out at a bar he may have assumed initially that she was of age. I think if he was a pedophile there would be other incidents that would come up.

I don't think I'd ever see Roger Clemens on "To Catch a Predator" but I do think he's a piece of shit and deserves to be labeled a pedophile.

why was she in a bar when she was 15?

Posted by CrushAlot:

If she is out at a bar he may have assumed initially that she was of age. I think if he was a pedophile there would be other incidents that would come up.

You weren't aware of any of the revelations that have surfaced in the past six months or so. Stay tuned...I have a feeling we've got a long way to go with this guy.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by sebstar:

I dont know if enough evidence has surfaced to say that he is a certifiable, 'To catch a predator candidate', but what is for certain is that he is shady as fluck. We all saw warning signs (Piazza bat throwing incident, exceptional productivity at a later age) but the media chose to ignore it until confronted. Cant say the same for Bonds.

None of that makes him a pedophile!

say what now?

Huh?

Clemens life is unraveling like a country western song!

sanctimonious purity

What a great line.

Clemens should have just said he used it a few times, is sorry, and gave McNameee 2 mil cash to STFU.

Bonnie,

Sorry I got on the forum so late. Given what we know about you, that (by your own words and myspace pics for public display) that your vertically challanged and at near 30 youve been romantically deprived.

So at 15 you peaked?

Ok, if so vertically challanged, and like most at 15 a bit scrawney, then what 21 year old mentally challanged slut was doing with the little (im gonna assume your very intelligent as your lifetime academic persuit) 15 year old recluse freaky kid?

please tell us in all its freaky little details how this all came to happen! And "screwing" inplies multiple occurance.

Or

Were you at your aunts lake house for the summer (long island summer polution hurt your allergies) and one day you were playing with your nija turtle collection vs. Power Rangers action figures when you bulemic cousin, fresh from rehab and counseling from her stepfathers intrusions was feeling "frisky" (unbalanced meds make her depressed) so while aunty was away and those reruns of "Love American Style" were making her horney, she'd corrupt here little freaky and break his cute little cherry!

Sorry Bonnie, nobody brags on that kind of thing unless they havn't gotten much in between.

Whats ever became of your Cuz anyway? She plow her mustang 5.0 into a telephone pole with no seatbelt on? Still problematic depression thinking about how bad it must have been in her early twenties while her friends were off to college and she is deciding on either rubbing peanut butter on her snatch for the family pooch to lick off or manipulate her little freaky man child?