Off Topic · It's hard to be a Democrat right now (page 1)

Agree or disagree with what this woman is saying, I found that a lot of supporters like her feel the same way.

This is kind of what I was starting to say before myself, but was told I discriminating. Oh well. Choose your side, I guess.

Sorry Martin and Andrew. I meant to put this on Off Topics. Can you's please move it.

Well, if Obama wins, I hope she has fun moving to New Zealand.

I would never complain like that, but I agree that most those states Obama won are generally republican states and he most likely will not win them on election night. Hillary won the states that vote democratically in the presidential election. Only time will tell, but its a similar fear I had, McCain being elected would be horrible.

Yeah, but it wasn't Republicans voting for or against obama.

What this video say is what I been hearing everywhere I go, regarding this Democratic campaign. A lot of Hillary supporters are clearly upset that Michigan and Florida where not included and to offer to include them at the end of the trail, is a joke.

And that's not all. A report just came out that Polosi announced that obama is going be able to seat Michigan and Florida. That's going to piss an awful lot of Hillary supporters off.

But like you said. Only time will tell.

she reminds me of my HS Guidance Counselor.

Posted by jaydh:

I would never complain like that, but I agree that most those states Obama won are generally republican states and he most likely will not win them on election night. Hillary won the states that vote democratically in the presidential election. Only time will tell, but its a similar fear I had, McCain being elected would be horrible.

Im voting for Obama and I urge everyone to vote for Obama. Hillary simply blew it by not campaigning until it was over. Now I'm putting all of my support behind Obama. I am scared about what you say because it's strategic--but if Democrats like you and me open our mouths and let the world know we are voting for the right direction for the people of the United States of America. We need to change a few minds.

I dont buy the Obama has only won states that traditionally vote republican so he wont win the general election argument. There are a lot of republicans out there, myself included, who have and want to vote for Obama. I voted for him in the Virginia primary and I plan on voting for him in the general election.

However, I will give it to Hillary - she is teaching the republicans how to beat Obama right now which I think is dangerous.

[Edited by - oasisbu on 06-01-2008 7:10 PM]

Hmmm, your a republican? Really? Why would 'you' vote Democratic?

I have no doubt that this whole board is going to vote obama, but just thought you should know what's out there. Whatever she's doing, the point has already been made.

Posted by TMS:

she reminds me of my HS Guidance Counselor.

lol

More like my old 7th grade math teacher who had a hutch back. Every time she would bend over to write the homework she would get stuck at that position. The end result was she would have to wait minutes to free up her back and be flexible again.

ROFL... that's a hilarious visual.

You know, I'm getting real tired of this bellyaching from Clinton supporters. If they want to keep threatening Obama supporters that they're going to vote McCain, fine. Be sore losers and take your ball and run home. Just know that those that do will be responsible for the continued destruction that another Republican administration is bound to bring.

Its just pathetic. This Florida/Michigan debacle was created because both states broke the rules, not because of some Obama machination. Both Clinton and Obama agreed upon the terms going into the primaries. Now that Clinton is getting waxed, she wants to move back the goal posts and change the rules as usual. She even wants to change the way the democratic nomination is decided. WOW.

Obama beat Clinton fair and square, and you can just feel the indignation fueled by race and entitlement. Obama has a chance to carve out a new map to the white house by grabbing states like Louisiana and Colorado to name a couple, so I'm also tired of this: "he has no shot narrative", which is disingenuous to say the least.

The Clintons and their base kill me. First Hillary was the steely eyed woman of experience, she gets beat in Iowa and then she literally starts to cry and complain that debate moderators are asking her "tougher" questions.

Then it was Hillary was the Educated, cultured Wellesley grad; soon as Obama makes a "bitter" slip up she shamelessly parades herself in a bar, for a alcohol drinking photo op, and talks about how much she loves guns. No respect for voters intelligence

Next Hillary was the "3 am" woman of experience, she continually lies about sniper fire and all of a sudden she blames it on "fatigue"

All throughout the Clintons and their base have continually race baited and played to the lowest common denominator. From bill Clinton's Jesse Jackson's comment, to Geraldine Ferraro making Obama out to be an Affirmative Action hire, to Hillary's pandering of the "white vote". They have made race a central issue while Obama and his supporters have done next to nothing in regards to introducing gender. Dirty.

And all of this is somehow Obama's fault. Because he ran the better more honest campaign. The ish is disgusting. I cant say that I am surprised, I expected all of this and I expect it to get much worse. I commend Obama for maintaining his dignity throughout all of this, but to be honest I dont think America deserves his leadership, oh wait the leadership of an inadequate BLACK man.

Posted by TMS:

ROFL... that's a hilarious visual.

Pretty much at his mercy, when you think of it.

Posted by sebstar:

You know, I'm getting real tired of this bellyaching from Clinton supporters. If they want to keep threatening Obama supporters that they're going to vote McCain, fine. Be sore losers and take your ball and run home. Just know that those that do will be responsible for the continued destruction that another Republican administration is bound to bring.

Oh' don't jump on Hillary supporters. it's not their fault this mess went the way it did. Blame DNC! There the one's that let this shit go on and on. This is why I couldn't understand the attitudes towards this whole thing. Didn't the DNC realize that there would be bitterness and didn't the obama supporters, with all of their nastiness think about who'd they'd be pissing off in the end?

And weren't we told that there would be riots in the streets, if Hillary got nominated? What was that all about?

Sorry but true.

Here's the Rev. Michael Pflegen showing class. He's the reason obama finally had to quit his church. And you have to agree, doesn't help his cause at all. People laugh at this, but this is pretty offensive to many. I think it's stuff like this that set the woman off in the above video.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by sebstar:

You know, I'm getting real tired of this bellyaching from Clinton supporters. If they want to keep threatening Obama supporters that they're going to vote McCain, fine. Be sore losers and take your ball and run home. Just know that those that do will be responsible for the continued destruction that another Republican administration is bound to bring.

Oh' don't jump on Hillary supporters. it's not their fault this mess went the way it did. Blame DNC! There the one's that let this shit go on and on. This is why I couldn't understand the attitudes towards this whole thing. Didn't the DNC realize that there would be bitterness and didn't the obama supporters, with all of their nastiness think about who'd they'd be pissing off in the end?

And weren't we told that there would be riots in the streets, if Hillary got nominated? What was that all about?

Sorry but true.

You damn right I'm going to blame Clinton supporters like that one, with all of her bluster and nasty rhetoric.

Well then why the hell didnt Clinton say something about this before? Blame her @$$. Again, these were the rules that BOTH candidates agreed upon because BOTH states broke the rules.

I'm not going to vouch for every single Obama supporter, but its clear that there is a more racist, elitist, out-of-touch and negative tone emanating out of the Clinton camp and base. And that video symbolizes that.

There would be riots because Obama has won fair and square by the rules set forth. Nothing more nothing less. Hillary had a sizable base of Black voters and support before she ran this abortion of a campaign.

Posted by 4949:

Here's the Rev. Michael Pflegen showing class. He's the reason obama finally had to quit his church. And you have to agree, doesn't help his cause at all. People laugh at this, but this is pretty offensive to many. I think it's stuff like this that set the woman off in the above video.

Yeah right. I'm sure there is some sort of excuse for her racism. There always is an excuse when it comes to Hillary and her supporters. Pfleger was pretty much spot on in his analysis. He's a good man. I love how white people try to act like they have been the ones victimized by racism and oppression all these years.

Anyway, this is a comment by one man loosely associated with Obama. I didnt see Hagee being so closely associated with McCain even though McCain sought out his endorsement. In any event, the emphasis on meaningless wedge issues like this and typical divisiveness are some of the reasons why this country is in such a serious rut.

Whatever happened to the economy and Iraq?

Well, just look in the mare and ask yourself. 'Was it really worth being so nasty about the whole affair the last several months? Supporters could've run on obama's character alone. It's too late for both of us, I'm afraid.

And that is the first negative video I seen against obama, to tell you the truth.

You'll see what happens.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by jaydh:

I would never complain like that, but I agree that most those states Obama won are generally republican states and he most likely will not win them on election night. Hillary won the states that vote democratically in the presidential election. Only time will tell, but its a similar fear I had, McCain being elected would be horrible.

Im voting for Obama and I urge everyone to vote for Obama. Hillary simply blew it by not campaigning until it was over. Now I'm putting all of my support behind Obama. I am scared about what you say because it's strategic--but if Democrats like you and me open our mouths and let the world know we are voting for the right direction for the people of the United States of America. We need to change a few minds.

& i suppose the "right direction" is the way that you're voting & everything else is wrong? i can see now you really are incredibly arrogant, not only in your basketball pronouncements but just in general... i think people are capable of making up their own minds on who to vote for... take your arrogance & endless self righteous bullcrap & shove it up your ass BRIGGS.

Posted by 4949:

Well, just look in the mare and ask yourself. 'Was it really worth being so nasty about the whole affair the last several months? Supporters could've run on obama's character alone. It's too late for both of us, I'm afraid.

And that is the first negative video I seen against obama, to tell you the truth.

You'll see what happens.

I dont know what to tell you. Again I havent seen the level of negative rhetoric from the Obama camp and base, that I have seen from the other side.

Clinton supporters need to grow up and stop being such sore losers. I'm talking about the reasonable, yet overly emotional ones. The racist ones can fall on something sharp for all I care.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by 4949:

Well, just look in the mare and ask yourself. 'Was it really worth being so nasty about the whole affair the last several months? Supporters could've run on obama's character alone. It's too late for both of us, I'm afraid.

And that is the first negative video I seen against obama, to tell you the truth.

You'll see what happens.

I dont know what to tell you. Again I havent seen the level of negative rhetoric from the Obama camp and base, that I have seen from the other side.

Clinton supporters need to grow up and stop being such sore losers. I'm talking about the reasonable, yet overly emotional ones. The racist ones can fall on something sharp for all I care.

And will you' grow up and stop being a loser, if obama loses? Your not really being fair about this. I've met plenty of racist on the other side and plenty of emotional one's myself. It comes down to a matter of 'do I want to really deal with this'? But it doesn't change my mind about what I been put through. My only complaint is, if Michigan and Florida where included, then this wouldn't be an issue for me, win or lose. It would have been fair, and now big nose polosi is saying obama will seat Michigan and Florida? Where's the fairness in that?

Maybe you should take us more serious.