Whatever way you want to shake it--I believe the frontcourt situation is something we have to address because of the unknown variables of Curry and Randolph.
If we drafted Brook and started him next to Curry
that would give us the shotblocking and size in terms of defense to offset the problems that we have with either Curry Lee or Curry randolph.
If we draft Lopez he can play PF with Curry and C with Lee. He is NBA ready and at 7 feet tall gives us that true size at the basket we have been missing. He's been kind of over looked but again I think going big at 6--atleast to me is a priority if we cant get Mayo.
If we started
C-Curry 6-11 280
F-Lopez 7-0 260
F-Q Rich 6-6 240
G-Crawford 6-5 200
G-Marbury 6-2 200
F -Lee 6-9 250
F Chandler 6-8 225
F Jefferies 6-11 240
G Nate-5-9 185
No thanks.. assuming we are keeping the pick I want Rose/Beas/Mayo/Alexander/Westbrook/Love
In that order
Posted by joec32033:
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Why--he's a very good player who fills a big time need. I guess we just want players going right at our basket? I am becoming opposed to a small player and if they are not interested in developing someone who is not ready--why not take Lopez who fills dire needs and is NBA read in the same top 10 bracket?
We need more SIZE--look at the NBA--Brook was by far the best offensive big man in the country and at 7 feet tall 260 he can bring the shot blocking and size to put next to curry.
I'm hoping that someone ahead of us reaches for Lopez and we get Bayless, Mayo or Love.
if they draft lopez, i think they should immediately un-retire #33, give to him and make him the captain of the team.
Briggs its a need thats easier to trade for. Take Westbrook or Alexander.. someone that can be a real core player. Go trade for Tony Battie. If Phili gets Brand maybe you swap Curry for Dalembert.
Briggs.. who do you want? If Mayo, Beas, Rose, Love and Bayless are off the board who would you pick today?
I prefer Brook Lopez over every combo-guard except Mayo (obviously Beasley and Rose would be the first 2 options but they are out of reach), but it all depends on what we do with Zach/Curry. It makes no sense to have those three together on the roster.
Lopez has Frye, Curtis Borchard, Jason Collins written all over him. Guy's motor is suspect
Posted by fishmike:
Briggs its a need thats easier to trade for. Take Westbrook or Alexander.. someone that can be a real core player. Go trade for Tony Battie. If Phili gets Brand maybe you swap Curry for Dalembert.
Briggs.. who do you want? If Mayo, Beas, Rose, Love and Bayless are off the board who would you pick today?
If the Knicks are not interested in waiting for anyone who will take developmental time Im beginning to believe that Lopez would be the best pick. Why--because we have very serious question marks upfront with Curry and Randolph. He was higher on my list until we signed dantoni--but if were not going to take Randolph and wait for his devlopment time--imho to COMPETE in the NBA we need a player who can help Eddy Curry or Lee guard the basket. The Boston series showed me we need players who are very big and athletic who can do things. To me it makes much more sense drafting a player who is in the same bracket talent wise as the top 10 but also fills a dire need. We need someone who can help guard the basket. Brook also happens to have a very nice array of offensive skills as well and again --what happens if Curry does NOT come back from the knee surgery well? We play all year with No C? Guaranteed to lose 50 games.
Posted by fishmike:
Lopez has Frye, Curtis Borchard, Jason Collins written all over him. Guy's motor is suspect
Curtis Borchardt was the guy who had stress fractures in his foot and up his leg from college into the time he was drafted.
is losing 50 games bad under those circumstances? Lopez's toughness is questioned. His motor is questioned and worse his desire and love of basetball is questioned.
Knicks have a lot of needs.. thats just one. For a 7'0 260 center with an incredible wingspan he hardly dominated defensively (he was good) and his FG% is dreadful. This guys going to take off on the NBA level? I dont see it.
The need for this team isnt position by position IMO.. its more mental. We are not tough or aggressive. We are the softest team in the league in every facet. Lopez to me is a terrible choice for that reason.
The two guys I am focused on are Westbrook and Alexander. Both have NBA bodies, are elite athletes, are 2 way players and are intense intense intense guys that are going to bring that John StarksSprewell energy this team desperately needs
Curry is already running. I don't think risk of him coming back is significant.
Wow....this is my 1st Curry email that I refrained from making a sarcastic Curry comment.
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by fishmike:
Lopez has Frye, Curtis Borchard, Jason Collins written all over him. Guy's motor is suspect
Curtis Borchardt was the guy who had stress fractures in his foot and up his leg from college into the time he was drafted.
I remember.. he did get healthy w/ Utah though and stunk. Good CBB player though. Better CBB player than Lopez from what I remember. I watched him a bit.. Knicks had KT at center year he was drafted.
Posted by fishmike:
is losing 50 games bad under those circumstances? Lopez's toughness is questioned. His motor is questioned and worse his desire and love of basetball is questioned.
Knicks have a lot of needs.. thats just one. For a 7'0 260 center with an incredible wingspan he hardly dominated defensively (he was good) and his FG% is dreadful. This guys going to take off on the NBA level? I dont see it.
The need for this team isnt position by position IMO.. its more mental. We are not tough or aggressive. We are the softest team in the league in every facet. Lopez to me is a terrible choice for that reason.
The two guys I am focused on are Westbrook and Alexander. Both have NBA bodies, are elite athletes, are 2 way players and are intense intense intense guys that are going to bring that John StarksSprewell energy this team desperately needs
I agree fish, I don't like lopez at all, what I do want is a two way player who is intense. A guy who does mind getting beat by his man, a guy who does mind losing, a guy who hates being mediocre, a guy who will hold his teamates accountable.... If we could trade down and get both westbrook and alexander, I would call it a draft and go home and light my cigar...
Posted by fishmike:
is losing 50 games bad under those circumstances? Lopez's toughness is questioned. His motor is questioned and worse his desire and love of basetball is questioned.
Knicks have a lot of needs.. thats just one. For a 7'0 260 center with an incredible wingspan he hardly dominated defensively (he was good) and his FG% is dreadful. This guys going to take off on the NBA level? I dont see it.
The need for this team isnt position by position IMO.. its more mental. We are not tough or aggressive. We are the softest team in the league in every facet. Lopez to me is a terrible choice for that reason.
The two guys I am focused on are Westbrook and Alexander. Both have NBA bodies, are elite athletes, are 2 way players and are intense intense intense guys that are going to bring that John StarksSprewell energy this team desperately needs
Who questions his toughness or motor? He looks pretty tough to me. And if were not willing to take somoen who may take time to develop---there are a lot of things he brings to the table we need---especially the intangible of Randolph not being here or Curry not being able to play or continuing to play poorly. This is a big strong skilled kid.
you watch the pac10... cmon man. I think you are overrating him and his NBA potential. His shot selection is Zach like as well. Also if your drafting him on need you put yourself in a position of weakness and your obligated to move Lee/Curry/Zach
You really think he can play next to Curry? NBA PFs will destroy him.
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Posted by joec32033:
UCK!!!!
Why--he's a very good player who fills a big time need. I guess we just want players going right at our basket? I am becoming opposed to a small player and if they are not interested in developing someone who is not ready--why not take Lopez who fills dire needs and is NBA read in the same top 10 bracket?
We need more SIZE--look at the NBA--Brook was by far the best offensive big man in the country and at 7 feet tall 260 he can bring the shot blocking and size to put next to curry.
Is he a shotblocker/banger? I got the impression he was more of a finesse guy. I actually would prefer to get his brother who seems more of the type we need.
I also think it is weird to draft the scoring brother for rebounding and defense when the rebounding and defense brother will be cheaper and we can keep our 6 pick and get a better player by buying/trading for a later pick.
briggy you watch a lot of UCONN ball.. what did you think of Joe Alexander?
Also look at how he finished the season. This guy is ready to explode. Has star potential
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by joec32033:
UCK!!!!
Why--he's a very good player who fills a big time need. I guess we just want players going right at our basket? I am becoming opposed to a small player and if they are not interested in developing someone who is not ready--why not take Lopez who fills dire needs and is NBA read in the same top 10 bracket?
We need more SIZE--look at the NBA--Brook was by far the best offensive big man in the country and at 7 feet tall 260 he can bring the shot blocking and size to put next to curry.
Is he a shotblocker/banger? I got the impression he was more of a finesse guy. I actually would prefer to get his brother who seems more of the type we need.
I also think it is weird to draft the scoring brother for rebounding and defense when the rebounding and defense brother will be cheaper and we can keep our 6 pick and get a better player by buying/trading for a later pick.
Lopez is good.. he's not a pos but I think he's too slow to be anything more than an NBA role player. How does his FG% translate to the next level?
Posted by fishmike:
briggy you watch a lot of UCONN ball.. what did you think of Joe Alexander?
Also look at how he finished the season. This guy is ready to explode. Has star potential
I think hes a great athlete with a very nice mid range jump shot. He had a nice run of games at the right time. I like Joe but at the end of the day I dont think he is very skilled for the 3 position in the NBA. We already have Chandler Balkman Jefferies Q Rich. He might be better as a undersized 4 in uptempo but we already have David Lee for that. He does not have 3 point range and his handle is not at the level of an NBA 3 man. He would be better off drafted by a team like GS who might put him at hybrid 4. He's tough and he plays very hard.
