Off Topic · Even Obama Admitted He Not Ready (page 2)

Posted by nykshaknbake:

What's ironic is that this party of logical (as opposed to emotional) decision makers and enligtened ones has a staple tatic of name calling and race baiting.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

For anyone that believes that the average American voter is logical enough to properly investigate candidates positions and actions just read the above post.

Of course, anybody who disagrees with the enlightened, educated Obama supported is simply misinformed and illogical. Im sorry I forgot. Because of course if anybody did any research they would realize that Obama has been sent to save us all.

It's hard when all you guys ever offer is subjective statements (Obama isn't experienced or qualified enough) I'm still waiting for a clear definition on that front of what constitutes "qualified and experienced" for a Presidential candidate?

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by nykshaknbake:

What's ironic is that this party of logical (as opposed to emotional) decision makers and enligtened ones has a staple tatic of name calling and race baiting.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

For anyone that believes that the average American voter is logical enough to properly investigate candidates positions and actions just read the above post.

Of course, anybody who disagrees with the enlightened, educated Obama supported is simply misinformed and illogical. Im sorry I forgot. Because of course if anybody did any research they would realize that Obama has been sent to save us all.

It's hard when all you guys ever offer is subjective statements (Obama isn't experienced or qualified enough) I'm still waiting for a clear definition on that front of what constitutes "qualified and experienced" for a Presidential candidate?

According to people like you there is only one possible outcome of "being informed", and thats whatever you think. Everybody would agree with you if only they knew what you know. You cant imagine that an educated intelligent person could possibly vote against Obama. Thats the problem with your type.

As far as Obamas experience, if 143 working days of experience is okay with you, then thats fine. Its not okay with me. And I understand that Obama says he will only raise taxes on the top %5. If you dont understand what effect that will have on our unemployment rate, then perhaps you need to take economics 101.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by nykshaknbake:

What's ironic is that this party of logical (as opposed to emotional) decision makers and enligtened ones has a staple tatic of name calling and race baiting.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

For anyone that believes that the average American voter is logical enough to properly investigate candidates positions and actions just read the above post.

Of course, anybody who disagrees with the enlightened, educated Obama supported is simply misinformed and illogical. Im sorry I forgot. Because of course if anybody did any research they would realize that Obama has been sent to save us all.

It's hard when all you guys ever offer is subjective statements (Obama isn't experienced or qualified enough) I'm still waiting for a clear definition on that front of what constitutes "qualified and experienced" for a Presidential candidate?

According to people like you there is only one possible outcome of "being informed", and thats whatever you think. Everybody would agree with you if only they knew what you know. You cant imagine that an educated intelligent person could possibly vote against Obama. Thats the problem with your type.

As far as Obamas experience, if 143 working days of experience is okay with you, then thats fine. Its not okay with me. And I understand that Obama says he will only raise taxes on the top %5. If you dont understand what effect that will have on our unemployment rate, then perhaps you need to take economics 101.

It's 143 more days of experience being right than Mr. 100 more years in Iraq has

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by nykshaknbake:

What's ironic is that this party of logical (as opposed to emotional) decision makers and enligtened ones has a staple tatic of name calling and race baiting.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

For anyone that believes that the average American voter is logical enough to properly investigate candidates positions and actions just read the above post.

Of course, anybody who disagrees with the enlightened, educated Obama supported is simply misinformed and illogical. Im sorry I forgot. Because of course if anybody did any research they would realize that Obama has been sent to save us all.

It's hard when all you guys ever offer is subjective statements (Obama isn't experienced or qualified enough) I'm still waiting for a clear definition on that front of what constitutes "qualified and experienced" for a Presidential candidate?

According to people like you there is only one possible outcome of "being informed", and thats whatever you think. Everybody would agree with you if only they knew what you know. You cant imagine that an educated intelligent person could possibly vote against Obama. Thats the problem with your type.

As far as Obamas experience, if 143 working days of experience is okay with you, then thats fine. Its not okay with me. And I understand that Obama says he will only raise taxes on the top %5. If you dont understand what effect that will have on our unemployment rate, then perhaps you need to take economics 101.

Got your facts wrong. He is only raising taxes for top 1%. How does raising taxes for the mega-wealty effect unemployment rate?

well, here is the next question: what exactly is the mccain administration going to do to make america better? some are just tossing mud at obama and his views ( which i agree with) but what has mccain done to say, "hmmm, he is going to make me erase the memories of the last 8 years of the past regime". i see a cycle, pure and simple. people look at obama's experience and people have a right to pause. that is why i was partial to hilary. however, because mccain has some experience, i think his diplomacy will be poor ( which i feel we need strong at a time like this)and his economic plan is crap. unless you are upper middle or upper class, what is so great about his plan?

Posted by martin:

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by nykshaknbake:

What's ironic is that this party of logical (as opposed to emotional) decision makers and enligtened ones has a staple tatic of name calling and race baiting.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

For anyone that believes that the average American voter is logical enough to properly investigate candidates positions and actions just read the above post.

Of course, anybody who disagrees with the enlightened, educated Obama supported is simply misinformed and illogical. Im sorry I forgot. Because of course if anybody did any research they would realize that Obama has been sent to save us all.

It's hard when all you guys ever offer is subjective statements (Obama isn't experienced or qualified enough) I'm still waiting for a clear definition on that front of what constitutes "qualified and experienced" for a Presidential candidate?

According to people like you there is only one possible outcome of "being informed", and thats whatever you think. Everybody would agree with you if only they knew what you know. You cant imagine that an educated intelligent person could possibly vote against Obama. Thats the problem with your type.

As far as Obamas experience, if 143 working days of experience is okay with you, then thats fine. Its not okay with me. And I understand that Obama says he will only raise taxes on the top %5. If you dont understand what effect that will have on our unemployment rate, then perhaps you need to take economics 101.

Got your facts wrong. He is only raising taxes for top 1%. How does raising taxes for the mega-wealty effect unemployment rate?

He says himself that he will raise taxes for the top %5. And higher taxes=low economic growth and high unemployment is a fundamental rule of economics. Im not making it up.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by nykshaknbake:

What's ironic is that this party of logical (as opposed to emotional) decision makers and enligtened ones has a staple tatic of name calling and race baiting.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

For anyone that believes that the average American voter is logical enough to properly investigate candidates positions and actions just read the above post.

Of course, anybody who disagrees with the enlightened, educated Obama supported is simply misinformed and illogical. Im sorry I forgot. Because of course if anybody did any research they would realize that Obama has been sent to save us all.

It's hard when all you guys ever offer is subjective statements (Obama isn't experienced or qualified enough) I'm still waiting for a clear definition on that front of what constitutes "qualified and experienced" for a Presidential candidate?

According to people like you there is only one possible outcome of "being informed", and thats whatever you think. Everybody would agree with you if only they knew what you know. You cant imagine that an educated intelligent person could possibly vote against Obama. Thats the problem with your type.

As far as Obamas experience, if 143 working days of experience is okay with you, then thats fine. Its not okay with me. And I understand that Obama says he will only raise taxes on the top %5. If you dont understand what effect that will have on our unemployment rate, then perhaps you need to take economics 101.

It's 143 more days of experience being right than Mr. 100 more years in Iraq has

Like he was right on the surge lol. If Obama had his way we would be leaving Iraq with our tails between our legs.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by nykshaknbake:

What's ironic is that this party of logical (as opposed to emotional) decision makers and enligtened ones has a staple tatic of name calling and race baiting.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by bitty41:

For anyone that believes that the average American voter is logical enough to properly investigate candidates positions and actions just read the above post.

Of course, anybody who disagrees with the enlightened, educated Obama supported is simply misinformed and illogical. Im sorry I forgot. Because of course if anybody did any research they would realize that Obama has been sent to save us all.

It's hard when all you guys ever offer is subjective statements (Obama isn't experienced or qualified enough) I'm still waiting for a clear definition on that front of what constitutes "qualified and experienced" for a Presidential candidate?

According to people like you there is only one possible outcome of "being informed", and thats whatever you think. Everybody would agree with you if only they knew what you know. You cant imagine that an educated intelligent person could possibly vote against Obama. Thats the problem with your type.

As far as Obamas experience, if 143 working days of experience is okay with you, then thats fine. Its not okay with me. And I understand that Obama says he will only raise taxes on the top %5. If you dont understand what effect that will have on our unemployment rate, then perhaps you need to take economics 101.

It's 143 more days of experience being right than Mr. 100 more years in Iraq has

Like he was right on the surge lol. If Obama had his way we would be leaving Iraq with our tails between our legs.

lol, and u think thats a bad thing?

Like he was right on the surge lol. If Obama had his way we would be leaving Iraq with our tails between our legs.

Of course you would want to move the discussion away from the illegal invasion of Iraq and discuss only the so-called surge. The added 30,000 soliders was nearly a secondary factor when you take stock of the current situation in Iraq. More important factors like:

1.The Sunni rejection of al-Qaeda extremists in Anbar province (which preceded the surge

2.The surprise decision of radical Shiite leader Moqtada al-Sadr to order a unilateral cease-fire by his militia

3. Bob Woodward has mentioned this prominently in his new book;

was the use of new highly classified U.S. intelligence tactics that allowed for rapid targeting and killing of insurgent leaders.

He credits this information from Pentagon Insiders and other military personnel.


You know when Obama went on the O"Reilly factor I was disappointed that he didn't take a stronger stance with O'Reilly about the surge. He should responded to that pig with why the surge really worked.The very thing that Obama has been talking about from the beginning troop withdrawal even your President Bush has jumped on that bandwagon (I think this is just to help the Republicans in the upcoming elections) and the Iraqi government has already been talking about our withdrawal for months.

There is nothing for us to win in Iraq there is no war just an illegal occupation that has turned a country upside down and made them more unstable, more violent, and not better off.

This isn't some macho contest to see whose tougher or badder. Soldiers are dying nearly everyday, Iraqis are dying nearly everyday, and we are literally bleeding billions of dollars every month in the region. So can you really not see the utter failure of this invasion?

Like he was right on the surge lol.

There was never supposed to be a surge. Mission was declared accomplished years prior.

If Obama had his way we would be leaving Iraq with our tails between our legs.

Either we leave with our tails between our legs, or Iraq is in utter ruins and flattened. Quite possibly both both events happen no matter who gets elected. It really isn't a "winnable" war.

The real measure is who gets us out of Iraq with less lives lost, both American and Iraqi. "Tails between our legs" is really the wrong way of looking at it. It's not a rumble.

oohah

Like he was right on the surge lol. If Obama had his way we would be leaving Iraq with our tails between our legs.

Wrong. We would not be leaving Iraq because we wouldn't have invaded and occupied it in the first place. Like most of the American people, Senator Obama does not believe in wars of choice, and he would have saved 4000 young American's lives. Instead we'd be finishing off the terrorists who attacked us.


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 09-12-2008 8:43 PM]