If you have 51 votes in the Senate, you DON'T control Congress. You need 60, which means you need at least 55 of your party. The idea that the Dems control the Senate is just a media oversimplification.
Posted by martin:
Posted by izybx:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/p...
The year after his wife gets a 250% raise he earmarks $1,000,000 for her hospital? Theres change that you can believe in lol
and the problem with requesting earmark money for a hospital?
is it taboo cause you know someone there?
If you dont see blatant corruption in giving a million dollars to a hospital that just gave your wife a 200k raise than you may be in denial.
Posted by izybx:
Posted by martin:
Posted by izybx:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/p...
The year after his wife gets a 250% raise he earmarks $1,000,000 for her hospital? Theres change that you can believe in lol
and the problem with requesting earmark money for a hospital?
is it taboo cause you know someone there?
If you dont see blatant corruption in giving a million dollars to a hospital that just gave your wife a 200k raise than you may be in denial.
what did she get a raise for?
Why hasn't every republican brought this up?
Did they actually give the million dollars to the hospital or was it just proposed?
Posted by Bonn1997:
If you have 51 votes in the Senate, you DON'T control Congress. You need 60, which means you need at least 55 of your party. The idea that the Dems control the Senate is just a media oversimplification.
I know that Bonnie has pointed this out for a second time in amongst the political threads, don't know if it was addressed to you the first time nykshaknbake.
Doing minimal searching this came up:
"She's terrific," added Michael Riordan, who was president of the hospital in March 2005, when Michelle Obama was promoted to vice president for external affairs and had her annual salary increased from $121,910 to $316,962.
Hospitals spokesman John Easton told the Tribune that Michelle Obama's salary is in line with those of the 16 other vice presidents at the not-for-profit medical center.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/200...
Who gets a 250% raise ever?
Posted by kam77:
Who gets a 250% raise ever?
people who's salary was 30% of what it should be. And then CEO's and the like. Def upper management-types all the time.
Posted by martin:
Posted by kam77:
Who gets a 250% raise ever?
people who's salary was 30% of what it should be. And then CEO's and the like. Def upper management-types all the time.
So you cant see how someone could see courruption when a candidates wife gets a huge propotion and raise right before that candidate secures said hospital 1 million dollars in funding? I know you support Obama, but it seems to me like he engages in the same political dirt as everyone else
Obama sure as hell isnt perfect, and I disagree with him on a healthy amount of issues (capitulating on FISA and off shore drilling spring to mind), but he's clearly the superior candidate and probably the best candidate I have seen in my lifetime
I assume you were alive for Bill Clinton? If either McCain or Obama can lead this country through a period in 75% as prosperous and peaceful as Clinton did, they will have done a spectacular job.
oohah
This is a little incredulous...
So the hospital gives here a 5x pay raise and a new title and then magically gets a million fat ones from her hubby. And that doesn't even arouse any suspicion from you? Let's play a game and insert the McCains into the blanks istead of the Obamas..you'd be all over that like flies on $hit.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
I don't have time to research that. I'm just trying to see and explain izybx's point and how the facts as he presented them suggest corruption. . I'll leave it to him to answer what questions you might have.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
The reason it's fishy, is that his wife gets a raise and then the hospital gets an earmark. Kind of like you'll scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
Posted by martin:
Posted by izybx:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/p...
The year after his wife gets a 250% raise he earmarks $1,000,000 for her hospital? Theres change that you can believe in lol
and the problem with requesting earmark money for a hospital?
is it taboo cause you know someone there?
why did she get a raise? Is it because she doubled her duties? I could be wrong, but I seem to have read about an additional title. When you can get back to us about the details of the raise, the appropriateness of the earmark, then we will start to understand that you have something to stand on.
you suggest fishhy, back it up.
I'm not. Congress being led by Democrats has been really bad...people can see the inaction after all the promises and the pettiness...they aren't happy about it.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
2 years. If they were really doing a better job it would have been reflected in the current polls. Fact is they rate lower than the 2nd worst president in US hisory, which is pathetic.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
Do you mean the Democratically controlled congress that has a lower approval rating than Bush? Sorry, but not everything the Dems put out is striaght from the and of God. 97% means that he toes the party line so he doesn't get Libermanned. That guy is the only real example of someone putting themselves out for principle. Not Obama.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
Well, he voted with his party 97% of the time...that's not exactly standing up and leading and being willing to do the unpopular thing.
Posted by Bonn1997:
Sell out? Obama's one of the few politicians who will do what's unpopular because he believes it's right, whether it's opposing a gas tax holiday or a war at a time when people who opposed the war were viewed as traitors.
is that because perhaps what the Congress and the rest of the Republican's put out was pure crap?
how long have the Democrats "controlled" congress? And how long have the Republicans over the past year controlled congress, senate, President's office?
I am thinking that the inner workings of our govt are a little more deep than you are presenting them to be.
OK, lets mince words. You need 60 to be filibuster proof. you certainly have more control with a majority than a minority. Fact is you can't have it both ways. The last 60 seat party was the democrats of the late 70s'. Congress is miserable and the leading party of that is the Dems, just like the leading party before that was the Republicans.
Posted by Bonn1997:
If you have 51 votes in the Senate, you DON'T control Congress. You need 60, which means you need at least 55 of your party. The idea that the Dems control the Senate is just a media oversimplification.
What kind of evidence within reason would you accept? I think it speaks for itself and you'd have to be completely in the tank for Obama to not even understand how it's suspicious. The facts are that Obamas wife got a huge raise and her employer subsequently got a huge amount of money from Obama. It's een worse than Marbury's cousin being hired by MSG and I'm sure you thought tha was fishy. I'm not sure why there is one standard for absolute proof from you concerning anything negative about Obama and then you let blatant falsehoods go unchallenged like Palin pushing creationism in schools.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
This is a little incredulous...
So the hospital gives here a 5x pay raise and a new title and then magically gets a million fat ones from her hubby. And that doesn't even arouse any suspicion from you? Let's play a game and insert the McCains into the blanks istead of the Obamas..you'd be all over that like flies on $hit.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
I don't have time to research that. I'm just trying to see and explain izybx's point and how the facts as he presented them suggest corruption. . I'll leave it to him to answer what questions you might have.
Posted by martin:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
The reason it's fishy, is that his wife gets a raise and then the hospital gets an earmark. Kind of like you'll scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
Posted by martin:
Posted by izybx:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/p...
The year after his wife gets a 250% raise he earmarks $1,000,000 for her hospital? Theres change that you can believe in lol
and the problem with requesting earmark money for a hospital?
is it taboo cause you know someone there?
why did she get a raise? Is it because she doubled her duties? I could be wrong, but I seem to have read about an additional title. When you can get back to us about the details of the raise, the appropriateness of the earmark, then we will start to understand that you have something to stand on.
you suggest fishhy, back it up.
you didn't answer any of my questions. back up your accusations with facts.
[Edited by - nykshaknbake on 09-12-2008 6:57 PM]
