This guy is getting a sht load of heat, for being in this commercial for the new "call of duty" Black ops video game..
They say he's promoting violence, this is not good for kids, how could he do this, it's a topic on damn near ever sports talk show.
does anybody else think that this is ridiculous, for god sake is a video game..Yet none of the other celebs who are also in the commercial seem to being getting any heat
its a great commercial. I never played the game, or any of those games for that matter but it looks awesome. My son loves playing with army men. War games are in most people born with testicles.
promoting violence... thats idiotic. Grand theft auto? Maybe you have an arguement there. If he was playing a harry potter game would he be promoting witchcraft? phucks sakes
I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an
actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.
I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.
Writers love to be outraged at stuff.
That was so cool Kobe was in that--whoever is complaining needs to get their head examined.
any link to this commercial?
My take is...well its ridiculous. Now if you are going to oppose Kobe doing this then you have to also oppose violent video games. I love that commercial haha.
GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.
I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.
I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.
I THOUGHT it wass a great commercial, i have call of duty morden warfare collecting major dust, the commercial not only got me to play the game again (never really was into those types of games) but i also went out and brought black ops..
people get so hung up on celebs and rappers promoting violence through entertainment, yet don't see the harm in airing a movie about vietnam. I remamber when "hamburger hill" the movie came out, afetr watching that I wanted to go joinn the service the next damn day. then i heard ICE CUBEs album "death certificate" and quickly changed my mind
I think it's rediculous - the only thing I think it promotes is that he - like many in the world - is a gamer.
There were other celebrities in the ad too, Jimmie Kimmel I think was one of them. Where is the outrage towards him?
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.
I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.
I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.
Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.
I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.
I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.
Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.
while this is true, I dont know if the league can control player commercials, no? outside of their purview.
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.
I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.
I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.
Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.
while this is true, I dont know if the league can control player commercials, no? outside of their purview.
I was under the impression that this was approved by Stern. I could be wrong.
edit: no prior approval but no condemnation which is not disapproval. He couldn't miss the commercial.
K22 wrote:This is called cherry-picking, folks. He hadn't been involved in anything major in close to 7 years and they pick this.
To me its not about Kobe, Kobe shouldn't be punished. The league should say that they prefer not to see their players in commercials
firing automatic weapons, especially when a large part of the target audience of the advertiser are kids.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.
I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.
I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.
Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.
while this is true, I dont know if the league can control player commercials, no? outside of their purview.
I was under the impression that this was approved by Stern. I could be wrong.
edit: no prior approval but no condemnation which is not disapproval. He couldn't miss the commercial.
what you are asking is that the league remark on every single thing a player does outside of life within the NBA. prob not happening and a bit unrealistic, no?
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.
I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.
I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.
Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.
while this is true, I dont know if the league can control player commercials, no? outside of their purview.
I was under the impression that this was approved by Stern. I could be wrong.
edit: no prior approval but no condemnation which is not disapproval. He couldn't miss the commercial.
what you are asking is that the league remark on every single thing a player does outside of life within the NBA. prob not happening and a bit unrealistic, no?
This is a very high profile multi-million dollar campaign. Its garnered a lot of publicity and the league would be best served by clarifying their position on guns. We aren't talking about a blurb in the Passaic weekly shopper. 
This is an interesting story if there's a public controversy... we have these discussions in society and it's probably good to stop and think about it once and awhile. I'll admit I'm a bit of a lefty and prefer peace to war and heed the warning of President Eisenhower about the military-industrial complex... I digress.
"Black ops" is a crazy concept: they are like ninjas for the U.S. Get in, do some dirt, leave no trace, get out. Ninjas are cool but ninjas are also assassins who kill in secret without providing fair trial to the murdered. They certainly take out their fair share of dirtbags but it makes me uneasy.
But the argument here isn't even that high-minded, it's more about just the issue with guns? Like they say, guns don't kill people, but Gilbert sure likes playing with them.
But that commercial is pretty frickin' cool. I don't play FPSers except Grand Theft Auto, that's a pretty rugged concept too. But it's got a hilarious soundtrack.
While I don't agree Kobe should get heat for this - remember Gilbert Arenas and before that KG caught heat for his comments in the playoffs about guns.
I guess it's a sensitive subject but I just thought it was cool he was in it.
GustavBahler wrote:K22 wrote:This is called cherry-picking, folks. He hadn't been involved in anything major in close to 7 years and they pick this.
To me its not about Kobe, Kobe shouldn't be punished. The league should say that they prefer not to see their players in commercials
firing automatic weapons, especially when a large part of the target audience of the advertiser are kids.
But video games are geared towards kids. Kobe is the last person to call out on this. Should there be no violent movies, shows, or video games? They have ratings. Rated r movies and mature rated video games. This is completely retarded.
