Knicks · Atlantic Bust! (page 1)

Panos @ 4/5/2011 9:25 AM

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brook...

The hoop-la has faded in Brooklyn.
When the Atlantic Yards complex was announced in 2003, its developer promised the borough a basketball team, world-class arena designed by Frank Gehry, 16 soaring residential and office buildings, affordable housing, parks and recreational facilities.
To make the grandiose plans come true, some 800 residents and businesses were dispossessed and city and state taxpayers kicked in $305 million so far.

But it's looking like all Brooklyn will be left with is one of the worst teams in the NBA -- playing in a new, nondescript facility.

Documents filed last week with the Securities and Exchange Commission by developer Bruce Ratner and his Forest City Enterprises warn that the non-arena portions of the plan could experience "further delays" leading to most or all of the rest of the 22-acre, $4.9 billion project being scrapped.

Risks to investors cited in the SEC filings include the potential of rising construction costs and financing rates, loss of arena sponsorships and inability to meet government-approved construction deadlines.
"If any of the foregoing risks were to occur we may . . . not be able to develop Brooklyn Atlantic Yards to the extent intended or at all," according to one of the developer's SEC filings.

Ratner and Forest City -- in a doomsday scenario -- could potentially lose $525 million on the project, "excluding any potential write-offs for the arena" and "liquidated damages," the filings say.
Forest City reported "record" earnings the past year ending Jan. 31, in part fueled by selling Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov a majority interest in the money-losing New Jersey Nets, who will move to the Barclays Center arena for the 2012-13 NBA season.

Councilwoman Letitia James (D-Brooklyn) and Prospect Heights activist Patti Hagan, both longtime foes of Atlantic Yards, said the SEC documents are the latest "proof" that Ratner can't deliver 2,250 affordable housing units and most of the 17,000 jobs he promised state officials in order to gain project approvals.
"It was all just a mirage," James said. "He underestimated the economy and opposition, and now all we're getting is an arena and a large parking lot."

The filings also reveal the Prokhorov deal in May was a greater financial windfall for Ratner than what was announced publicly.
Prokhorov paid Ratner $223 million for 80 percent of the Nets and 45 percent of the arena, and agreed to pay for $60 million in team losses and assume 80 percent of the Nets' $200 million debt. Both parties had claimed the deal was for $200 million and other "funding commitments."

Forest City spokesman Joe DePlasco insisted, "We've invested hundreds of millions of dollars in this development and remain 100 percent committed to building out all of Atlantic Yards."
The arena is set to open in summer 2012, but the timetable for the rest of Atlantic Yards remains unclear.

matt @ 4/5/2011 10:16 AM
At this point I really wouldn't be surprised if it takes another 4,5 years to open up (if it ever does)
orangeblobman @ 4/5/2011 10:30 AM
if you build it they will come
DrAlphaeus @ 4/5/2011 11:29 AM
Field of Schemes, indeed. What a boondoggle.

Bait us with world-class architects and affordable housing. Switch in a cookie-cutter arena and a parking lot. Disgusting.

Nalod @ 4/5/2011 11:45 AM

That arena design by Geary was amazing. Too bad it won't get built that way.

If the project is tainted and melo was not commited to Nets then why the hell did.....................

eViL @ 4/5/2011 11:48 AM
still though, that billboard was really somethin....
93BUICK @ 4/5/2011 12:20 PM
I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.
blkexec @ 4/5/2011 12:55 PM
93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.

Yes sir.....Ft. Greene. Entire family is from there. Too bad I can't visit without a bullet proof vest. lol

93BUICK @ 4/5/2011 1:03 PM
blkexec wrote:
93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.

Yes sir.....Ft. Greene. Entire family is from there. Too bad I can't visit without a bullet proof vest. lol


Have you been there recently? It's all Brunch and Farmer's Markets now- it's gone from hip-hop to flip-flop
blkexec @ 4/5/2011 1:18 PM
93BUICK wrote:
blkexec wrote:
93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.

Yes sir.....Ft. Greene. Entire family is from there. Too bad I can't visit without a bullet proof vest. lol


Have you been there recently? It's all Brunch and Farmer's Markets now- it's gone from hip-hop to flip-flop

Really? wow.....

It's been a long while since I last visit....I've been in the south / southwest for the last 15 yrs.....Just moved back to the east coast two months ago.

So I'll be there soon, visiting some family.

DrAlphaeus @ 4/5/2011 1:20 PM
93BUICK wrote:
blkexec wrote:
93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.

Yes sir.....Ft. Greene. Entire family is from there. Too bad I can't visit without a bullet proof vest. lol


Have you been there recently? It's all Brunch and Farmer's Markets now- it's gone from hip-hop to flip-flop

Haha, +1 to this! If a realtor says a spot is in Fort Greene these days, it's actually Clinton Hill. If they say Clinton Hill, it's deep Bed Stuy :P

AnubisADL @ 4/5/2011 1:23 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
93BUICK wrote:
blkexec wrote:
93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.

Yes sir.....Ft. Greene. Entire family is from there. Too bad I can't visit without a bullet proof vest. lol


Have you been there recently? It's all Brunch and Farmer's Markets now- it's gone from hip-hop to flip-flop

Haha, +1 to this! If a realtor says a spot is in Fort Greene these days, it's actually Clinton Hill. If they say Clinton Hill, it's deep Bed Stuy :P

It's actually Stuvestant Heights now.

PresIke @ 4/5/2011 2:21 PM
the stadium will open as scheduled, i believe. i drive by it every day and it's well on it's way, but it's the other parts that aren't happening.

basically, the word is there will be a stadium and parking lot.

Rookie @ 4/5/2011 3:39 PM
knicks1248 @ 4/5/2011 3:48 PM
93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.


Yeah dude that area is high quality living righ now..you be lucky as hell to rent for anythng less then 1800 a month unless ur in the projects..its a mix nationality in brooklyn..those high crime areas back in 80s and 90s are now high price living..

This project has seen more obstalces then a u could possibly ever imagine

GustavBahler @ 4/5/2011 4:00 PM
The Nets pitch to free agents is going to be real short. Wonder what Deron Williams is thinking?
martin @ 4/5/2011 4:26 PM
GustavBahler wrote:The Nets pitch to free agents is going to be real short. Wonder what Deron Williams is thinking?

MSG in 1 year

knicks1248 @ 4/5/2011 5:20 PM
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:The Nets pitch to free agents is going to be real short. Wonder what Deron Williams is thinking?

MSG in 1 year

Lmao....

martin @ 4/5/2011 5:43 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:The Nets pitch to free agents is going to be real short. Wonder what Deron Williams is thinking?

MSG in 1 year

Lmao....

What other teams will have cap space in 2012? Can you see him wanting to play with Brook Lopez or Melo/Amare?

CashMoney @ 4/5/2011 5:48 PM
Carton was talking about this yesterday morning on FAN. Basically it's a new basketball arena and that's it. Great use of eminent domain.
DrAlphaeus @ 4/5/2011 5:51 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
93BUICK wrote:
blkexec wrote:
93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.

Yes sir.....Ft. Greene. Entire family is from there. Too bad I can't visit without a bullet proof vest. lol


Have you been there recently? It's all Brunch and Farmer's Markets now- it's gone from hip-hop to flip-flop

Haha, +1 to this! If a realtor says a spot is in Fort Greene these days, it's actually Clinton Hill. If they say Clinton Hill, it's deep Bed Stuy :P

It's actually Stuvestant Heights now.

Haha, yea forgot about that, but I can't even get too mad at that neighborhood name because that actually is a real name. "Bedford-Stuyvesant" is sort of a "superneighborhood" (hence the hyphen), with Stuy Heights that being one of them.

But yea, "Do or Die Bed-Stuy" ain't what you put on a real estate listing, haha.

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