Knicks · 04/19/11 @ 7:00PM GAME THREAD: Knicks VS Boston game 2, what are we going to do ? (page 36)
islesfan wrote:loweyecue wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:D'antoni's play calling and lack of focus down the stretch is hurting this team.Yeah keep repeating that shit it willl catch on one of these days.
You really think the play calling out of timeouts has been good??
When you don't have players who can't execute, you do what is simple. So yes, I do.
Gymkata wrote:loweyecue wrote:VDesai wrote:We're talking about a matchup player, in the worst matchup situation for him. We need to score one basket. He is just not an offensive player and when you need one basket he cannot be out there. Every coach at every level plays offense/defense subs and that was a perfect time to sub.Anyone else andthe defense would have been different and they wouldn't have left him alone under the basket.
Yup. I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that the play they called wasn't "Fishlips-Tango-Blue-92."
No shit?
AnubisADL wrote:D'Antoni is going to get fired after we get eliminated so Im not worried.This game was all about Carmelo putting up an unreal playoff performance. We could have had Mike Brown on the sidelines.
An Autysmic Monkey
A Jerry Kids Panda
A Liquored up Koala
Really it wouldn't have mattered tonight
Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
OH Please!!! What's wrong with you? Have the Celtics looked like a team that can just dominate us? NO! They've gotten all the breaks and they're playing at home! I'm telling you this series can easily turn the other way. I don't care about the regular season. That has no bearing on this series. We win 2 home games then it's best 2 out of 3! So let's not get crazy just yet. I still believe in the Knicks chances.
It's really gonna depend on how bad the injuries to STAT and CB are.
You don't have to dominate to win as your man D'AnToni said you just have to score more pts. And the Cs execute and score more pts than their opponents without gimmicks like no other
if MDA had any defensive scheme, KG doesn't score on that hook shot.
PLAYOFF BASKETBALL IS ABOUT GETTING STOPS, not scoring more points. mda just doesn't get it.
BigSm00th wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
OH Please!!! What's wrong with you? Have the Celtics looked like a team that can just dominate us? NO! They've gotten all the breaks and they're playing at home! I'm telling you this series can easily turn the other way. I don't care about the regular season. That has no bearing on this series. We win 2 home games then it's best 2 out of 3! So let's not get crazy just yet. I still believe in the Knicks chances.
It's really gonna depend on how bad the injuries to STAT and CB are.
You don't have to dominate to win as your man D'AnToni said you just have to score more pts. And the Cs execute and score more pts than their opponents without gimmicks like no other
if MDA had any defensive scheme, KG doesn't score on that hook shot.
PLAYOFF BASKETBALL IS ABOUT GETTING STOPS, not scoring more points. mda just doesn't get it.
First, that silly KG alley oop in game 1, and now an isolation play for KG that had brought in no help defense.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Michael6835 wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
I will say I'm impressed slightly with D'AnToni's ability to coach a half court game at a slower pace. I hope his supporters acknowledge we aren't competitive playing SSOL but instead because we've become moderately more conventional.
So then why implement SSOL in the regular season if you're going to slow down the pace and play conventional basketball in the postseason?
You can't play SSOL against the C's. they don't let you.
Which proves my point. Instead of playing that losing style SSOL, play conventional half court basketball all season long so there's less of an adjustment in the postseason.
It's not possible to criticize the offense when we don't have a PG that can run it. So Mike has adjusted the offense to what he has. You guys are talking like we're playing some scrub team or something. It's still the Celtics, who were in the finals last year. It's not an easy series for anyone to win and yet they have had to go down the wire against us in most of our games.
You think it would make a difference is we had STAT in there and Billups at the end of either game? It just might have.
loweyecue wrote:Gymkata wrote:loweyecue wrote:VDesai wrote:We're talking about a matchup player, in the worst matchup situation for him. We need to score one basket. He is just not an offensive player and when you need one basket he cannot be out there. Every coach at every level plays offense/defense subs and that was a perfect time to sub.Anyone else andthe defense would have been different and they wouldn't have left him alone under the basket.
Yup. I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that the play they called wasn't "Fishlips-Tango-Blue-92."
No shit?
The real "No shit?" question is who was going to be open. It was 100% certain Melo was gonna get doubled and the worst offensive player on the floor would've been open. Actually the way they approached that play, they definitely had to assume that ball was going to Jared.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:BigSm00th wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
OH Please!!! What's wrong with you? Have the Celtics looked like a team that can just dominate us? NO! They've gotten all the breaks and they're playing at home! I'm telling you this series can easily turn the other way. I don't care about the regular season. That has no bearing on this series. We win 2 home games then it's best 2 out of 3! So let's not get crazy just yet. I still believe in the Knicks chances.
It's really gonna depend on how bad the injuries to STAT and CB are.
You don't have to dominate to win as your man D'AnToni said you just have to score more pts. And the Cs execute and score more pts than their opponents without gimmicks like no other
if MDA had any defensive scheme, KG doesn't score on that hook shot.
PLAYOFF BASKETBALL IS ABOUT GETTING STOPS, not scoring more points. mda just doesn't get it.First, that silly KG alley oop in game 1, and now an isolation play for KG that had brought in no help defense.
Not to mention Effries was hacking him, is smaller... and weighs less, and has put us away more than once. D'AnToni was probably more concerned about getting the ball back and scoring(drawing up offensive plays). 2 different schools of coaching here. Doc went with a clear mismatch banking on ISO defense and going early, while letting his D finish the game.
nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Michael6835 wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
I will say I'm impressed slightly with D'AnToni's ability to coach a half court game at a slower pace. I hope his supporters acknowledge we aren't competitive playing SSOL but instead because we've become moderately more conventional.
So then why implement SSOL in the regular season if you're going to slow down the pace and play conventional basketball in the postseason?
You can't play SSOL against the C's. they don't let you.
Which proves my point. Instead of playing that losing style SSOL, play conventional half court basketball all season long so there's less of an adjustment in the postseason.
It's not possible to criticize the offense when we don't have a PG that can run it. So Mike has adjusted the offense to what he has. You guys are talking like we're playing some scrub team or something. It's still the Celtics, who were in the finals last year. It's not an easy series for anyone to win and yet they have had to go down the wire against us in most of our games.
You think it would make a difference is we had STAT in there and Billups at the end of either game? It just might have.
it just might have made a difference if we had a different coach too.
MDA has been undressed by rivers in both games this series and in the regular season games as well.
what adjustment did MDA make to the double teams? none.
how do the C's score on a backdoor alley and a rinky dink little baby hook? tom thibodeau coaching this team i can guarantee it would not be THAT easy!
nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Michael6835 wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
I will say I'm impressed slightly with D'AnToni's ability to coach a half court game at a slower pace. I hope his supporters acknowledge we aren't competitive playing SSOL but instead because we've become moderately more conventional.
So then why implement SSOL in the regular season if you're going to slow down the pace and play conventional basketball in the postseason?
You can't play SSOL against the C's. they don't let you.
Which proves my point. Instead of playing that losing style SSOL, play conventional half court basketball all season long so there's less of an adjustment in the postseason.
It's not possible to criticize the offense when we don't have a PG that can run it. So Mike has adjusted the offense to what he has. You guys are talking like we're playing some scrub team or something. It's still the Celtics, who were in the finals last year. It's not an easy series for anyone to win and yet they have had to go down the wire against us in most of our games.
You think it would make a difference is we had STAT in there and Billups at the end of either game? It just might have.
First you say we can beat them, now you change your stance and say we're not playing a scrub team.
What's it gonna be?
nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Michael6835 wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
I will say I'm impressed slightly with D'AnToni's ability to coach a half court game at a slower pace. I hope his supporters acknowledge we aren't competitive playing SSOL but instead because we've become moderately more conventional.
So then why implement SSOL in the regular season if you're going to slow down the pace and play conventional basketball in the postseason?
You can't play SSOL against the C's. they don't let you.
Which proves my point. Instead of playing that losing style SSOL, play conventional half court basketball all season long so there's less of an adjustment in the postseason.
It's not possible to criticize the offense when we don't have a PG that can run it. So Mike has adjusted the offense to what he has. You guys are talking like we're playing some scrub team or something. It's still the Celtics, who were in the finals last year. It's not an easy series for anyone to win and yet they have had to go down the wire against us in most of our games.
You think it would make a difference is we had STAT in there and Billups at the end of either game? It just might have.
Dude he had Felton all year wtf are you pollyanning about? Felton pretty much equals Billups
Michael6835 wrote:how does MDA not get it. KG hit a tough shot, JJ played good D, who are you doubling from.
how do you not double off rondo? he made 1 J all game.
Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Michael6835 wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Juice wrote:nixluva wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nixluva, we're not winning this series. I told you before.There's no execution down the stretch with this team, but I am pleased with the effort.
Wait a minute! You think the Celtic's can't be beat after what we just went thru losing 2 of our best players in this series? Man what's wrong with you people? I don't understand the negative statements about this team. We weren't the better team coming in and yet we're right on the edge of getting over the hump and we've had to fight the refs and injuries to two of our best players. I'm not sure I understand some the Knick fans right now.
They've beaten us when healthy, not healthy...with scrubs...without scrubs at home and away
It doesn't matter.
We're not advancing, they are. I'm not getting into injury excuses.
We're getting beat, period.
I will say I'm impressed slightly with D'AnToni's ability to coach a half court game at a slower pace. I hope his supporters acknowledge we aren't competitive playing SSOL but instead because we've become moderately more conventional.
So then why implement SSOL in the regular season if you're going to slow down the pace and play conventional basketball in the postseason?
You can't play SSOL against the C's. they don't let you.
Which proves my point. Instead of playing that losing style SSOL, play conventional half court basketball all season long so there's less of an adjustment in the postseason.
It's not possible to criticize the offense when we don't have a PG that can run it. So Mike has adjusted the offense to what he has. You guys are talking like we're playing some scrub team or something. It's still the Celtics, who were in the finals last year. It's not an easy series for anyone to win and yet they have had to go down the wire against us in most of our games.
You think it would make a difference is we had STAT in there and Billups at the end of either game? It just might have.
Dude he had Felton all year wtf are you pollyanning about? Felton pretty much equals Billups
D'antoni has the game's 2 premiere talents, but people are still giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying he needs a PG now.
Unreal.
Are you guys for real? When does reality come back?
Michael6835 wrote:how does MDA not get it. KG hit a tough shot, JJ played good D, who are you doubling from.
I thought Melo should have left Delonte to double KG. I'd rather take a chance on a Delonte jumper than a KG high percentage shot.
BigSm00th wrote:Michael6835 wrote:how does MDA not get it. KG hit a tough shot, JJ played good D, who are you doubling from.how do you not double off rondo? he made 1 J all game.
because he was right under the basket.