Knicks · [GT] Friday 4/22 @ 7pm: Knicks v. Celts, what do we seek? The first win in a four game streak. (page 17)

Sangfroid @ 4/22/2011 9:38 PM
VCoug wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

We have 2 superstars and we did not show up to play this game. I will give my Knicks team a pass. Now next season there will be no excusses. Amare have maybe 4 good years left. We need a point guard. We need a Center. We wont be able to trade for Chriss Paul because we don't have the pieces. We need a big man at the Center spot. I really can't knock D'Antoni he did his best. Weather he stays or goes will be up to the owner.

We're gonna have to buy a couple of picks in the upcoming draft. We have a 1st rounder, and that's it.

D'antoni takes a hit, because he didn't develop his second unit and because he abdicated his rope as coach.

Not seeing concise plays on the defensive OR offensive end of the court.

You mean to tell me that he couldn't find ONE guy in the D league who could dribble and penetrate?

We need to target Faried. Our two biggest weaknesses are rebounding and post defense. Faried does only two things, rebound and guard the post.

I think Faried is only 6'9". Was hoping for a 7 footer. A point guard is crucial. At least a trainee.

AnubisADL @ 4/22/2011 9:39 PM
Lol at guys talking about draft picks. We need solid vets not other teams rejects. We can get pieces with Billups contract. Varejao & Sessions or Gortat & Childress is looking good right about now.
GustavBahler @ 4/22/2011 9:39 PM
Sangfroid wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

We have 2 superstars and we did not show up to play this game. I will give my Knicks team a pass. Now next season there will be no excusses. Amare have maybe 4 good years left. We need a point guard. We need a Center. We wont be able to trade for Chriss Paul because we don't have the pieces. We need a big man at the Center spot. I really can't knock D'Antoni he did his best. Weather he stays or goes will be up to the owner.

We're gonna have to buy a couple of picks in the upcoming draft. We have a 1st rounder, and that's it.

D'antoni takes a hit, because he didn't develop his second unit and because he abdicated his rope as coach.

Not seeing concise plays on the defensive OR offensive end of the court.

You mean to tell me that he couldn't find ONE guy in the D league who could dribble and penetrate?

We need to target Faried. Our two biggest weaknesses are rebounding and post defense. Faried does only two things, rebound and guard the post.

I think Faried is only 6'9". Was hoping for a 7 footer. A point guard is crucial. At least a trainee.

I'd rather bring in a vet, Stat has a limited shelf life.

ScoreBot @ 4/22/2011 9:40 PM
Final  
NYK 96 BOS 113
tkf @ 4/22/2011 9:42 PM
didn't see this letdown comming

fields needs to ride the pine.. the guy is giving us nothing but negative play..

Are ray and paul this good, or was our defense that bad.. I watched douglas walk away from pierce with the ball to guard rondo, and let pierce shoot.. I guess our defense is that bad....

melo can't play 1-5. just can't

walker and williams need to start.. they are not scared...

tell dantoni he will play the bigs walsh gets him next year, or he is fired..

We need a PG.. bye bye billups..

Tough time to lose amare..


see ya guys next year..

martin @ 4/22/2011 9:45 PM
Sangfroid wrote:D'antoni takes a hit, because he didn't develop his second unit and because he abdicated his role as coach.

not for nothing, but NY's bench has outplayed Boston's bench for 3 straight games.

VCoug @ 4/22/2011 9:46 PM
Sangfroid wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

We have 2 superstars and we did not show up to play this game. I will give my Knicks team a pass. Now next season there will be no excusses. Amare have maybe 4 good years left. We need a point guard. We need a Center. We wont be able to trade for Chriss Paul because we don't have the pieces. We need a big man at the Center spot. I really can't knock D'Antoni he did his best. Weather he stays or goes will be up to the owner.

We're gonna have to buy a couple of picks in the upcoming draft. We have a 1st rounder, and that's it.

D'antoni takes a hit, because he didn't develop his second unit and because he abdicated his rope as coach.

Not seeing concise plays on the defensive OR offensive end of the court.

You mean to tell me that he couldn't find ONE guy in the D league who could dribble and penetrate?

We need to target Faried. Our two biggest weaknesses are rebounding and post defense. Faried does only two things, rebound and guard the post.

I think Faried is only 6'9". Was hoping for a 7 footer. A point guard is crucial. At least a trainee.

I'd rather have a 6'9'' guy who can board and defend than a 7' stiff. And I don't think there's going to be any decent point guard prospects when we pick.

ramtour420 @ 4/22/2011 9:55 PM
Mike "I like to see the other team blow us out before calling a timeout" D' Antoni strikes again. We need a new coach !!!
Moonangie @ 4/22/2011 9:58 PM
Wow, that was just awful and totally unexpected. Stat playing in the fourth qtr was stupid. Time to start getting ready for the draft. This team needs a lot of work yet. MDA is on the chopping block early next season if his team sucks like this. Weird how they play amazing in Boston and come home to present this turkey. Just astoundingly inept all around.
ramtour420 @ 4/22/2011 10:03 PM
Ray Ray and Pierce ARE that good, when we played them in Boston we had the threat of taking their homecourt advantage away. In the Garden they had nothing to lose and were able to play loose.
martin @ 4/22/2011 10:04 PM
Melo and Amare played awful games. If Amare can't bring it, he needs to sit.

I would start Mason over Fields.

I thought JJ had the best individual performance in this otherwise awful game.

gr33d @ 4/22/2011 10:04 PM
tkf wrote:didn't see this letdown comming

fields needs to ride the pine.. the guy is giving us nothing but negative play..

Are ray and paul this good, or was our defense that bad.. I watched douglas walk away from pierce with the ball to guard rondo, and let pierce shoot.. I guess our defense is that bad....

melo can't play 1-5. just can't

walker and williams need to start.. they are not scared...

tell dantoni he will play the bigs walsh gets him next year, or he is fired..

We need a PG.. bye bye billups..

Tough time to lose amare..


see ya guys next year..

Walker is clearly the more ready player over Fields. Been saying this for months...

Billups and Amare breaking down in the first two games against a tough as nails team, just killed us. Worst part is we could still be up 2-1 in this series.

Pierce and Allen obviously had great games, but Doc's strategy of doubling Melo completely ruined our chemistry. Our spacing is horrid and they weren't prepared for it; clear as day.

ramtour420 @ 4/22/2011 10:05 PM
martin wrote:Melo and Amare played awful games. If Amare can't bring it, he needs to sit.

I would start Mason over Fields.

I thought JJ had the best individual performance in this otherwise awful game.

Thats ffing scary.

Michael6835 @ 4/22/2011 10:12 PM
I kept telling my wife, there is so much hype around this game, I just hope we don't get blown out.
It had all the signs, I really think Stat felt bad about game 2 and really pushed himself to be on the floor. But if you can't go, then you can't go. He was way off and we force fed him the ball in the beginning.

Even if we were playing decent, I don't see us winning this game. Not with Pierce and Allen doing what they did.
We turned the ball over way too much and gave them too many 2nd chance points. This game was frustrating on so many levels.

Michael6835 @ 4/22/2011 10:15 PM
Also, at some point Coach has got to realize that Fields is giving us nothing. No offense, no defense, no hustle plays. He looks nervous and apprehensive when out there. he is a rookie,but coach has to take him out, other guys on the bench need a go at it.

Also when will Tony Douglas show up? Or is this the real tony D?

Juice @ 4/22/2011 10:17 PM
tkf wrote:didn't see this letdown comming

fields needs to ride the pine.. the guy is giving us nothing but negative play..

Are ray and paul this good, or was our defense that bad.. I watched douglas walk away from pierce with the ball to guard rondo, and let pierce shoot.. I guess our defense is that bad....

melo can't play 1-5. just can't

walker and williams need to start.. they are not scared...

tell dantoni he will play the bigs walsh gets him next year, or he is fired..

We need a PG.. bye bye billups..

Tough time to lose amare..


see ya guys next year..

Paul and Ray are that good as Ray made 8 3s in the Finals last year and Pierce has beaten us in so many ways over the years. But more notably our defense is that bad.

I want us to trade Douglas during the draft for a backup point guard and hopefully a 2nd round pick in 2012. Like pick 28-35 of this summer's draft assuming a guy we want is there.

No excuse for Shelden and Brown not to get burn because simply put WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BY PLAYING THEM

Remember I wanted Walker to start at the beginning of the year and it was for 2-3fold reasons. You can't flava o d day coach like D'AnToni. Players in this system are liable to go 7-9fg one game and then 0fer the next because there's no real flow or scheme to what we do

Amar'e is beat up because the coach beat him up in December and January. We never had a fully healthy $100mil Amare to begin with

Melo is doing what he does, you either love it or hate it

Fields played a particular role in a different system pre-trade. We are at least for this playoffs, a very bad half court basketball team. This is what the playoffs do, they expose

Uptown @ 4/22/2011 10:23 PM
martin wrote:Melo and Amare played awful games. If Amare can't bring it, he needs to sit.

I would start Mason over Fields.

I thought JJ had the best individual performance in this otherwise awful game.

Melo was crowded pretty much every time he touched the ball. Wasn't much he could do scoring wise. Need more talent around him, obviously to alleviate the attention he ganers.

martin @ 4/22/2011 10:25 PM
Michael6835 wrote:Also, at some point Coach has got to realize that Fields is giving us nothing. No offense, no defense, no hustle plays. He looks nervous and apprehensive when out there. he is a rookie,but coach has to take him out, other guys on the bench need a go at it.

Not sure what more you can do with Fields except bring him off bench. He is only playing 18 min a game, down from 30+ in the regular season.

On 1 hand, as an organization and for long term, you would like to see TD and Fields get minutes and experience. On the other, they are killing the team right now.

Billy and Shawne stepping up for their relative roles and experience.

martin @ 4/22/2011 10:28 PM
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:Melo and Amare played awful games. If Amare can't bring it, he needs to sit.

I would start Mason over Fields.

I thought JJ had the best individual performance in this otherwise awful game.

Melo was crowded pretty much every time he touched the ball. Wasn't much he could do scoring wise. Need more talent around him, obviously to alleviate the attention he ganers.

Probably true, same as in game #2 though. He had some awful defensive sequences.

Stat and coach have to face reality: if Stat is a liability, he has got to willingly sit.

eViL @ 4/22/2011 10:29 PM
I don't know if anyone said it, but this is what happens when you're too satisfied with close losses. Sucks to see this play out this way. Almost like anything that could go wrong has gone wrong. Not one break has gone our way.
MinsHeartsReezy @ 4/22/2011 10:31 PM
It took me SEVEN hrs in traffic to get to MSG from D.C.for THIS! I'm not mad but dissapointed in the attitude th team took on. It was just not the game I was hoping for. They didn't have to win...just play smart and give a good effort but you could tell the Team was down from the half. Oh well, I guess we're gonna have to be the first team in NBA history to win a series after being 3-0!
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