Knicks · OT: NBA Lottery Selection (page 1)

Juice @ 5/17/2011 8:49 PM
Looks like Stern took care of Cleveland...The Clippers just handed them pick 8 which turned into pick 4...WOW!
Juice @ 5/17/2011 8:52 PM
That's 2 picks Top 4 and 1 of them could be #1 overall....here we go


Can you imagine drafting Derrick Williams and Kemba Walker in 1 draft?

Juice @ 5/17/2011 8:52 PM
Dan Gilbert>>>>>>>>>Lebron....WOW WOW WOW

#1 overall and #4 from #2 and #8

nixluva @ 5/17/2011 8:55 PM
I'm actually kind of happy for the Cavs. I know that city really needs a lift. I remember reading how that city lost 10% or more of its business after Lebron left and those fans were really supportive of the team. There gonna be good again in a short time.
VDesai @ 5/17/2011 8:57 PM
The Clippers continue to be the laughing stock of the league. Giving up the no.1 overall pick to shed Baron Davis' contract. EEEEk.

NBA gifted one to the Cavs here.

Juice @ 5/17/2011 8:59 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm actually kind of happy for the Cavs. I know that city really needs a lift. I remember reading how that city lost 10% or more of its business after Lebron left and those fans were really supportive of the team. There gonna be good again in a short time.

Yep making matter that much more difficult for us and the rest of the East. Seriously they're going to get 2 impact players who very well could be Franchise talent. Kyrie is damn near CP3 personified and Derrick Williams is like a cross between Dyess/Iggy. Unreal and no doubt Cavs suffered dearly this season Lebronathon, losing streaks and all but this just goes to show the power of the Draft. Nothing like having a chance to have premium talent locked up for a few yrs on moderate to lower pay scale from Max contract pay scale and young.

JesseDark @ 5/17/2011 9:00 PM
Dan Gilbert's son just said he is taking his talents to South Beach.
NYKBocker @ 5/17/2011 9:05 PM
The big question is...Which PG will Kahn draft in slot #2?
Juice @ 5/17/2011 9:07 PM
VDesai wrote:The Clippers continue to be the laughing stock of the league. Giving up the no.1 overall pick to shed Baron Davis' contract. EEEEk.

NBA gifted one to the Cavs here.

It's one of those things where they were at a point.... they can't keep adding lottery talent to their team. Plus they have cap space to be a player this off-season. Keep in mind they have the Wolves 2012 first(UNPROTECTED) and their own 2012 pick.

Gordon=Lottery
Jordan=Should Have Been Lottery
Blake=Lottery
Bledsoe=Lottery
Aminu=Lottery

Kaman(maybe on his way out but was Lottery)


I mean how much more LOTTERY can one team get


They traded their 2011 1rst for cap space to sign Jordan and potentially another player pending a few situations. Gotta show Blake you're serious about winning and building around him at a quicker pace.

CrushAlot @ 5/17/2011 10:10 PM
Thats great for the Cavs.
Olbrannon @ 5/17/2011 10:23 PM
NYKBocker wrote:The big question is...Which PG will Kahn draft in slot #2?

Reggie Jackson

JrZyHuStLa @ 5/17/2011 10:32 PM
Is it me or does this draft seem weak?
Caseloads @ 5/17/2011 10:34 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Is it me or does this draft seem weak?

it is.

Juice @ 5/17/2011 10:43 PM
Caseloads wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Is it me or does this draft seem weak?

it is.

It isn't.....Very similar to the 2008 draft

Juice @ 5/17/2011 11:29 PM
For those of you not up on basketball

2008 Draft in Comparison to 2011 draft


1.Derrick Rose=Kyrie Irving

2.Micheal Beasley=Derrick Williams

3.O.J. Mayo=Alec Burks

4.Russell WestBrook=Brandon Knight

5. Kevin Love=Kenneth Faried

6.Danilo Gallinari=Chandler Parsons or Kawhi Leonard

7.Eric Gordon=Kemba Walker

8.Joe Alexander=Marcus Morris

9.Brook Lopez=Enes Kanter

10. D.J. Augustin=Jimmer Fredette

11. Jerryd Bayless=Reggie Jackson

12. Jason Thompson=Markeif Morris

13. Brandon Rush=Kyle Singler

14. Anthony Randolph=Justin Harper

15. Robin Lopez=Donatus Montiejunas

16. Mareese Speights=Tobias Harris

17. Roy Hibbert=Bismack Biyombo

18. Javele Mcgee=Lucas Noguiera

19. J.J. Hickson=Tristan Thmpson

20. Alexis Ajinca=Jonas Valanciunas

21. Ryan Anderson=Jan Vesely

22. Courtney Lee=Klay Thompson

23. Kosta Koufos=Jeremy Tyler

24. Serge Ibaka=Justin Harper

25. Nicolas Batum=Chris Singleton

26. George Hill=Nolan Smith

27. Darell Arthur=Keith Benson

28. Donte Green=Jordan Hamilton

29. D.J. White=JuJuan Johnson

30. J.R. Giddens=Tyler Honeycutt


No

Marshon Brooks
Shelvin Mack
Josh Shelby
Darius Morris
Travis Leslie
Jimmy Butler
Charles Jenkins


all possible 1rst round leapers....As you can see pound for pound equal to the 2008 draft which was a very good draft. Now is it because we have pick 17 that some of you think this?

y2zipper @ 5/18/2011 12:48 AM
nixluva wrote:I'm actually kind of happy for the Cavs. I know that city really needs a lift. I remember reading how that city lost 10% or more of its business after Lebron left and those fans were really supportive of the team. There gonna be good again in a short time.

If Cleveland would have spent the last two lottery picks right and got good players, they'd probably still have LeBron.

Anyway, this is setting up Cleveland for when LeBron opts out of south beach and goes back in 3 years. You heard it here first.

NYKBocker @ 5/18/2011 12:50 AM
Cavs can essentially come out of this draft with the following...

#1 - Kyrie Irving - PG
#4 - Enes Kanter - C
#32 - Marshon Brooks - SG
#54 - Keith Benson - C

They can then send out Varejao and Baron Davis away for more assets.

SupremeCommander @ 5/18/2011 12:53 AM
I don't think this year's draft will be big on stars, but it will be deep in terms of good players being available late. LOok at this year's NCAA tournament... there really wasn't much in the way of big name talent with a true NBA body, but it was a fun tournament to watch
Juice @ 5/18/2011 1:14 AM
NYKBocker wrote:Cavs can essentially come out of this draft with the following...

#1 - Kyrie Irving - PG
#4 - Enes Kanter - C
#32 - Marshon Brooks - SG
#54 - Keith Benson - C

They can then send out Varejao and Baron Davis away for more assets.

Brooks and Benson won't be there at those spots.

Juice @ 5/18/2011 1:21 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:I don't think this year's draft will be big on stars, but it will be deep in terms of good players being available late. LOok at this year's NCAA tournament... there really wasn't much in the way of big name talent with a true NBA body, but it was a fun tournament to watch

I see 5 players who could turn out to be franchise caliber talent or at the very least huge building blocks with a 2-3 possible in the wings. Not sure what fans expect out of each draft every year. The 2006 draft produced about 3 franchise caliber players and about a half a dozen starters and clear bombs throughout but this draft IMO will be clearly better than the 2006 draft. Just because a draft doesn't produce a clear cut Superstar or even Superstars does not make it weak nor does a team's draft position make it weak.

BigDaddyG @ 5/18/2011 4:17 AM
Juice wrote:For those of you not up on basketball

2008 Draft in Comparison to 2011 draft


1.Derrick Rose=Kyrie Irving

2.Micheal Beasley=Derrick Williams

3.O.J. Mayo=Alec Burks

4.Russell WestBrook=Brandon Knight

5. Kevin Love=Kenneth Faried

6.Danilo Gallinari=Chandler Parsons or Kawhi Leonard

7.Eric Gordon=Kemba Walker

8.Joe Alexander=Marcus Morris

9.Brook Lopez=Enes Kanter

10. D.J. Augustin=Jimmer Fredette

11. Jerryd Bayless=Reggie Jackson

12. Jason Thompson=Markeif Morris

13. Brandon Rush=Kyle Singler

14. Anthony Randolph=Justin Harper

15. Robin Lopez=Donatus Montiejunas

16. Mareese Speights=Tobias Harris

17. Roy Hibbert=Bismack Biyombo

18. Javele Mcgee=Lucas Noguiera

19. J.J. Hickson=Tristan Thmpson

20. Alexis Ajinca=Jonas Valanciunas

21. Ryan Anderson=Jan Vesely

22. Courtney Lee=Klay Thompson

23. Kosta Koufos=Jeremy Tyler

24. Serge Ibaka=Justin Harper

25. Nicolas Batum=Chris Singleton

26. George Hill=Nolan Smith

27. Darell Arthur=Keith Benson

28. Donte Green=Jordan Hamilton

29. D.J. White=JuJuan Johnson

30. J.R. Giddens=Tyler Honeycutt


No

Marshon Brooks
Shelvin Mack
Josh Shelby
Darius Morris
Travis Leslie
Jimmy Butler
Charles Jenkins


all possible 1rst round leapers....As you can see pound for pound equal to the 2008 draft which was a very good draft. Now is it because we have pick 17 that some of you think this?


I think the weakness comes from the fact that there are no superstars. As good as Irving is, no one believes he will touch Rose or that Knight will be at Westbrook's level. But, the good thing about this is that there isn't too much of talent gap from mid-lottery to the end of the first round, possibly early second round.
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