Knicks · If Singleton had been the pick... (page 1)

...Isles, that fake Egyptian god(cough Anubis...cough, cough) & all the other "O ye of little faith" naysayers would be crying right now about picking a guy who cant play the 5 & who's gonna be buried on the bench behind Amare (excuse me, I mean Amear). Additionally they would be whining about how it was Rondo & other lightning quick guards who killed us all season long & how drafting a marginal undersized power forward isnt going to do anything to address that lack of perimeter defense.

PS - in order to prove how right I am about these whiners, I'll be hopping in my Delorean & coming back with proof

Actually I mentioned Singleton as one of 3 players I would have liked the Knicks to pick, BEFORE they picked. No hindsight or naysaying just for the sake of it. Good try though.

Why do people act as if Shumpert was a no doubt, easy pick with no potential downside or negatives to be concerned about? It's scary how protective people get about any Knick draft pick.

did this really need its own thread?

islesfan wrote:Why do people act as if Shumpert was a no doubt, easy pick with no potential downside or negatives to be concerned about? It's scary how protective people get about any Knick draft pick.

Folks may have emphasized his positives a bit too much, but I don't think the general consensus around here is that Shumpert was the one and only perfect pick for us at 17.

Singleton, by the way, is almost like a larger version of Shumpert, in some ways, and even less developed offensively.

Paladin55 wrote:

islesfan wrote:Why do people act as if Shumpert was a no doubt, easy pick with no potential downside or negatives to be concerned about? It's scary how protective people get about any Knick draft pick.

Folks may have emphasized his positives a bit too much, but I don't think the general consensus around here is that Shumpert was the one and only perfect pick for us at 17.

Singleton, by the way, is almost like a larger version of Shumpert, in some ways, and even less developed offensively.

Do the Knicks need size? Especially from an above average defender? With his size and length, Singleton could guard 1-4. I would argue that Singleton has more to offer offensively as he shoots better from mid to long range (37% vs 27% from 3pt) and is a better finisher at 6'9''.

Bonn1997 wrote:did this really need its own thread?

Yes...dissing Isles & Anubis takes precedence for me over everything else

islesfan wrote:Actually I mentioned Singleton as one of 3 players I would have liked the Knicks to pick, BEFORE they picked. No hindsight or naysaying just for the sake of it. Good try though.

Isles my good man, as usual you have missed the point. I'm sure you did mention Singleton in some long gone obscure thread but the larger issue is that if the Knicks would've picked him you would've done a 180 & figured out some reason to hate him because it seems like you are physically incapable of happiness when it pertains to the New York Knicks. I & many others had hoped you would seek therapy & come back to the board a well man, after your banishment but alas I see that is not the case. I love sparring w/you but it gets old & if following the team doesn't give you pleasure than why do it???

"I'm sure you did mention Singleton in some long gone obscure thread"

Yes, the NBA Draft thread that was stickied to the top of the board all night long. Real obscure.

"the larger issue is that if the Knicks would've picked him you would've done a 180 & figured out some reason to hate him"

I've never done that before but sure let's pretend that I would have done that now.

"I love sparring w/you but it gets old"

We spar like a hammer (me) and a nail (you). That does get old.

islesfan wrote:We spar like a hammer (me) and a nail (you). That does get old.

meaning that I stay embedded in the core of whatever we are talking about here, figuratively & quite literally holding things together while you take one or two quick hits (some would say "sucker punches") & then disappear???

PS - don't pick a fight with someone wittier & more verbose than you, that's sort of like Joe the Plumber challenging Obama to a debate...just a thought. By all means feel free to disregard as you do with most common sense posted here

islesfan wrote:Actually I mentioned Singleton as one of 3 players I would have liked the Knicks to pick, BEFORE they picked. No hindsight or naysaying just for the sake of it. Good try though.

Uhh...why are you so high on Singleton when your big argument against Shumpert is that he can't play on the offensive end? Singleton has no offensive game whatsoever.

ActionJackson wrote:

islesfan wrote:We spar like a hammer (me) and a nail (you). That does get old.

meaning that I stay embedded in the core of whatever we are talking about here, figuratively & quite literally holding things together while you take one or two quick hits (some would say "sucker punches") & then disappear???

PS - don't pick a fight with someone wittier & more verbose than you, that's sort of like Joe the Plumber challenging Obama to a debate...just a thought. By all means feel free to disregard as you do with most common sense posted here

Just wondering why you would start a post calling other posters out and then accuse one of those posters of picking a fight with you.

CrushAlot wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

islesfan wrote:We spar like a hammer (me) and a nail (you). That does get old.

meaning that I stay embedded in the core of whatever we are talking about here, figuratively & quite literally holding things together while you take one or two quick hits (some would say "sucker punches") & then disappear???

PS - don't pick a fight with someone wittier & more verbose than you, that's sort of like Joe the Plumber challenging Obama to a debate...just a thought. By all means feel free to disregard as you do with most common sense posted here

Just wondering why you would start a post calling other posters out and then accuse one of those posters of picking a fight with you.

I support Action. I wrote the same thing, except I used 'stupidity' to describe them and it got locked. I shouldn't have used that term but my point remains:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

Childs2Dudley wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

islesfan wrote:We spar like a hammer (me) and a nail (you). That does get old.

meaning that I stay embedded in the core of whatever we are talking about here, figuratively & quite literally holding things together while you take one or two quick hits (some would say "sucker punches") & then disappear???

PS - don't pick a fight with someone wittier & more verbose than you, that's sort of like Joe the Plumber challenging Obama to a debate...just a thought. By all means feel free to disregard as you do with most common sense posted here

Just wondering why you would start a post calling other posters out and then accuse one of those posters of picking a fight with you.

I support Action. I wrote the same thing, except I used 'stupidity' to describe them and it got locked. I shouldn't have used that term but my point remains:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

One of those threads you linked to was trashing the Rautins pick. Do you think that was an over reaction?

CrushAlot wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

islesfan wrote:We spar like a hammer (me) and a nail (you). That does get old.

meaning that I stay embedded in the core of whatever we are talking about here, figuratively & quite literally holding things together while you take one or two quick hits (some would say "sucker punches") & then disappear???

PS - don't pick a fight with someone wittier & more verbose than you, that's sort of like Joe the Plumber challenging Obama to a debate...just a thought. By all means feel free to disregard as you do with most common sense posted here

Just wondering why you would start a post calling other posters out and then accuse one of those posters of picking a fight with you.

I support Action. I wrote the same thing, except I used 'stupidity' to describe them and it got locked. I shouldn't have used that term but my point remains:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

One of those threads you linked to was trashing the Rautins pick. Do you think that was an over reaction?

Your thread?

Yeah, it was. Because it was trashing Fields too. Two players you've never seen play before that draft. Judging by how Fields developed, maybe it would make more sense to be less judgmental right off the bat - especially for players that you know very little about.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

islesfan wrote:We spar like a hammer (me) and a nail (you). That does get old.

meaning that I stay embedded in the core of whatever we are talking about here, figuratively & quite literally holding things together while you take one or two quick hits (some would say "sucker punches") & then disappear???

PS - don't pick a fight with someone wittier & more verbose than you, that's sort of like Joe the Plumber challenging Obama to a debate...just a thought. By all means feel free to disregard as you do with most common sense posted here

Just wondering why you would start a post calling other posters out and then accuse one of those posters of picking a fight with you.

I support Action. I wrote the same thing, except I used 'stupidity' to describe them and it got locked. I shouldn't have used that term but my point remains:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

One of those threads you linked to was trashing the Rautins pick. Do you think that was an over reaction?

Your thread?

Yeah, it was. Because it was trashing Fields too. Two players you've never seen play before that draft. Judging by how Fields developed, maybe it would make more sense to be less judgmental right off the bat - especially for players that you know very little about.

I watched a lot of Rautins before the draft. He was a good, not great college player and if you were a 'Cuse fan he might be a favorite. I knew nothing about Fields and was way off on criticizing that pick. However, I do think he was quite a find as he was not on the radar.