Knicks · D'Antoni raves that Iman Shumpert's shutdown skills capable of defending Rose, Wade,& James (page 1)

Papabear @ 6/24/2011 11:17 PM
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D'Antoni: Shumpert Capable Of Defending Rose, Wade, James
Jun 24, 2011 6:57 PM EDT

Coach Mike D'Antoni raved about Iman Shumpert's shutdown skills, going so far as to say the New York Knicks' first-round pick could stay in front of three of the best players in the world.

"He has the athletic ability to guard a Derrick Rose or a Dwyane Wade or a LeBron James," D'Antoni said Friday.

"He had one of the best workouts that I've seen in a lot of years. He's a little bit of everything. He can play point, he can play the 2, he can guard some 3s. He's an exciting young man. His personality and his ability to work hard are big factors, and we're excited about having him."
Via Jared Zwerling/ESPNNewYork.com
Iman Shumpert, Derrick Rose, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, New York Knicks,

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/214380/DAntoni_Shumpert_Capable_Of_Defending_Rose_Wade_James#ixzz1QFoJC0dc

nixluva @ 6/24/2011 11:33 PM
“I’m all smiles,’’ Shumpert said at the Knicks practice facility. “This can’t be life. This can’t be real.
“I wanted New York to pick me,’’ Shumpert added, positively beaming. “I wanted New York to take me at 17. I didn’t want to tell anybody. I didn’t want it not to happen. I was quiet about it, but I wanted to come here.’’
Asked why New York, Shumpert said, “The coach, the history, the city. Being able to learn from those veteran guys in Chauncey (Billups), (Amar'e) Stoudemire and Carmelo (anthony). That opportunity doesn’t come every day.’’
Though defense is Shumpert's forte, his Westchester workout in early June allayed fears with the Knicks that he was not a good perimeter shooter. However, he shot 27 percent from 3-point range in college and scouts say he tended to be inconsistent.
“I feel I can shoot,’’ Shumpert said. “I don’t see it as a weakness. I don’t think people are going to play off me. Do I have to shoot it better? Of course. But I can shoot from different spots on the floor.’’
Shumpert said he felt his workout was most noteworthy because of the connection he felt he had with coach Mike D’Antoni.
D’Antoni said he feels Shumpert’s versatility at 6-5 was most important, able to play point guard, shooting guard alongside starter Billups or Toney Douglas, and in a three-guard tandem with Landry Fields and Billups.
“His best qualities is defensively and his athleticism,’’ D’Antoni said of Shumpert. “But there are a lot of great things about him. His workout was one of the best we’ve ever had here. And we’ve been drafting high.’’

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/shumpert_all_smiles_after_knicks_lHXzWA5P5JWkXJGC37CPhP#ixzz1QFsGxAlx

I really think fans are gonna be shocked when this kid gets a chance to learn and adjust to what we're doing. It may take him some time to get it, but once he does I think he can really be a boost to this team. If he's playing well that makes life so much easier for CB and TD and of course STAT and MELO.

MaTT4281 @ 6/24/2011 11:41 PM
Words only mean so much, but I gotta say, we're hearing ALL the right things from everyone involved (barring one Melo tweet).
franco12 @ 6/24/2011 11:47 PM
Not trying to be critical - but I have heard this before: Anthony Roberson~!
DJMUSIC @ 6/24/2011 11:50 PM
The guy can make an impact
however league will figure out rookies they always do and its not like Shumpert comes into NBA
and gets all the calls /whistles from refs

All in all he still gotta earn alot when you speak of likes of D.Rose, a D-Wade, and those similar

CrushAlot @ 6/24/2011 11:56 PM
franco12 wrote:Not trying to be critical - but I have heard this before: Anthony Roberson~!
There was this guy also who now is putting up double doubles for the T-Wolves.

“He’s a multi-position player that has a world of talent whose athleticism is off the charts. He’s only played two years in the league and just turned 21. There’s a lot of positives and we’ll figure out where we fit him in, and figure out what the best position is for him, but he can play a lot of places. “

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...

Killa4luv @ 6/25/2011 12:23 AM
i dont know if we need to be announcing this to the world, but i guess they are trying to explain the pick to the fans.
nixluva @ 6/25/2011 12:39 AM
franco12 wrote:Not trying to be critical - but I have heard this before: Anthony Roberson~!

Why in the world would you reference Roberson? What does that guy have to do with Iman? I can't believe that we don't have 100% approval of the Knicks taking a defensive player that can defend the 1-3 spots. Is this some kind of bizarro UK forum? We got killed more at the guard spot in the playoffs than inside. Now we've addressed that weakness. This kid rebounds like a SF, pushes the ball on the break like a PG and can finish strong above the rim. Am I hearing NY Knick fans turn their nose up to the best pure defensive guard we've brought in, in years?

CrushAlot @ 6/25/2011 1:09 AM
nixluva wrote:
franco12 wrote:Not trying to be critical - but I have heard this before: Anthony Roberson~!

Why in the world would you reference Roberson? What does that guy have to do with Iman? I can't believe that we don't have 100% approval of the Knicks taking a defensive player that can defend the 1-3 spots. Is this some kind of bizarro UK forum? We got killed more at the guard spot in the playoffs than inside. Now we've addressed that weakness. This kid rebounds like a SF, pushes the ball on the break like a PG and can finish strong above the rim. Am I hearing NY Knick fans turn their nose up to the best pure defensive guard we've brought in, in years?

I think there are a few things going on with the reaction to the pick. The first is that Singleton was available and wasn't taken by the Knicks. The second is that Shumpert appears to have moved up based on his athleticism and great workouts. This isn't new with him. He is an athletic freak and he is a terrific defender. However the concerns come up when there are questions about his shooting ability, his shot selection is described as horrid, his basketball iq is considered to be low, and there have been questions about his attitude. Shumpert has a lot of talent but there are definite flaws in his game. In my opinion he projects as the type of player that really frustrated D'Antoni in the past. I don't think many fans have a problem with Shumpert's defense.
Allanfan20 @ 6/25/2011 8:30 AM
Killa4luv wrote:i dont know if we need to be announcing this to the world, but i guess they are trying to explain the pick to the fans.

We, meaning UK fans. 95% of Knicks fans, probably never heard of the guy so it probably would be wise to at least say why they did that.

earthmansurfer @ 6/25/2011 8:37 AM
When point guard Iman Shumpert arrived in Westchester for his workout on June 9, Knicks brass knew he was a big, rugged backcourt defender at 6-foot-5. What coach Mike D'Antoni wanted to see was if Shumpert could shoot it just a little after going a ghastly 27 percent from 3-point land as a Georgia Tech junior.

What transpired had D'Antoni's jaw drop.

"His knock was he couldn't shoot, but as soon as he got the ball, his form was perfect and he made shots," D'Antoni said. "You can say it's one day. But by his form, we think he can become very good shooter. If that's the knock on him, we're excited about that. His best qualities are defensively and athleticism, but his workout is one of the best we've ever had and we've been drafting high the past three years. We all turned together at the same time and said, 'Wow, this is pretty good.' "

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/he...

holfresh @ 6/25/2011 8:41 AM
Coming from the same guy that said Gallo was the best shooter he has ever seen...
Bonn1997 @ 6/25/2011 8:44 AM
holfresh wrote:Coming from the same guy that said Gallo was the best shooter he has ever seen...

Meaning he shouldn't be trusted?

toodarkmark @ 6/25/2011 10:48 AM
holfresh wrote:Coming from the same guy that said Gallo was the best shooter he has ever seen...

Yeah, why should a coach try to instill confidence in his players. MDA, at it again!

holfresh @ 6/25/2011 11:11 AM
toodarkmark wrote:
holfresh wrote:Coming from the same guy that said Gallo was the best shooter he has ever seen...

Yeah, why should a coach try to instill confidence in his players. MDA, at it again!

There is confidence and there is undue pressure you put on a player before he even sets foot on the floor...What do you think will happen when Bron, Wade and Rose hears this and this kid enters the game...

Paladin55 @ 6/25/2011 11:12 AM
Knicks' first-round pick Iman Shumpert loves to play defense
Saturday, June 25, 2011
BY ART STAPLETON

NorthJersey.com
STAFF WRITER


GREENBURGH, N.Y. – Iman Shumpert learned his most important basketball lesson from his two older brothers on the playground in the Oak Park section of Chicago.

"I hated to get scored on. It’s embarrassing to get scored on," said Shumpert, whom the Knicks introduced Friday just one day after they selected the Georgia Tech guard with the 17th pick in the NBA Draft. "Where I’m from, when people score on you, you’re the weak link. If I was going to go and play with my brothers and play on their team [in] a pick-up game, I can’t be getting scored on [or else] I can’t play. I was the young guy.

"It’s just something I developed, a pride for not letting people score on me."

The team often criticized for never playing any defense now has a player who does.

I've attempted to articulate this mentality in posts about defense before- but he is the first player I've heard who actually says it the way I've attempted to explain it.

Its the attitude all great defensive players have- they take it personally when they're scored upon. They don't just run back down the floor thinking "Now I'm going to score on him."

I think his offensive game will come around, and the Knicks will work slowly to integrate him into the offensive flow, but if he can play D with the above attitude and the natural physical specs and talent he has, we're going to be pretty happy with this guy.

nykshaknbake @ 6/25/2011 11:35 AM
What was MDA supposed to say, that he hated the pick and this guy has a one way ticket to the end of the pine? The fact is this guy is kind of the antithesis of what MDA values. I like the pick though and hope he's protected by the GM and hopefully defensive assistant from MDA.
Ira @ 6/25/2011 11:58 AM
nixluva wrote:
“I’m all smiles,’’ Shumpert said at the Knicks practice facility. “This can’t be life. This can’t be real.
“I wanted New York to pick me,’’ Shumpert added, positively beaming. “I wanted New York to take me at 17. I didn’t want to tell anybody. I didn’t want it not to happen. I was quiet about it, but I wanted to come here.’’
Asked why New York, Shumpert said, “The coach, the history, the city. Being able to learn from those veteran guys in Chauncey (Billups), (Amar'e) Stoudemire and Carmelo (anthony). That opportunity doesn’t come every day.’’
Though defense is Shumpert's forte, his Westchester workout in early June allayed fears with the Knicks that he was not a good perimeter shooter. However, he shot 27 percent from 3-point range in college and scouts say he tended to be inconsistent.
“I feel I can shoot,’’ Shumpert said. “I don’t see it as a weakness. I don’t think people are going to play off me. Do I have to shoot it better? Of course. But I can shoot from different spots on the floor.’’
Shumpert said he felt his workout was most noteworthy because of the connection he felt he had with coach Mike D’Antoni.
D’Antoni said he feels Shumpert’s versatility at 6-5 was most important, able to play point guard, shooting guard alongside starter Billups or Toney Douglas, and in a three-guard tandem with Landry Fields and Billups.
“His best qualities is defensively and his athleticism,’’ D’Antoni said of Shumpert. “But there are a lot of great things about him. His workout was one of the best we’ve ever had here. And we’ve been drafting high.’’

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/shumpert_all_smiles_after_knicks_lHXzWA5P5JWkXJGC37CPhP#ixzz1QFsGxAlx

I really think fans are gonna be shocked when this kid gets a chance to learn and adjust to what we're doing. It may take him some time to get it, but once he does I think he can really be a boost to this team. If he's playing well that makes life so much easier for CB and TD and of course STAT and MELO.

"But I can shoot from different spots on the floor."

As opposed to shooting it from only one spot on the floor?

Markji @ 6/25/2011 12:00 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
Knicks' first-round pick Iman Shumpert loves to play defense
Saturday, June 25, 2011
BY ART STAPLETON

NorthJersey.com
STAFF WRITER


GREENBURGH, N.Y. – Iman Shumpert learned his most important basketball lesson from his two older brothers on the playground in the Oak Park section of Chicago.

"I hated to get scored on. It’s embarrassing to get scored on," said Shumpert, whom the Knicks introduced Friday just one day after they selected the Georgia Tech guard with the 17th pick in the NBA Draft. "Where I’m from, when people score on you, you’re the weak link. If I was going to go and play with my brothers and play on their team [in] a pick-up game, I can’t be getting scored on [or else] I can’t play. I was the young guy.

"It’s just something I developed, a pride for not letting people score on me."

The team often criticized for never playing any defense now has a player who does.

I've attempted to articulate this mentality in posts about defense before- but he is the first player I've heard who actually says it the way I've attempted to explain it.

Its the attitude all great defensive players have- they take it personally when they're scored upon. They don't just run back down the floor thinking "Now I'm going to score on him."

I think his offensive game will come around, and the Knicks will work slowly to integrate him into the offensive flow, but if he can play D with the above attitude and the natural physical specs and talent he has, we're going to be pretty happy with this guy.


Palladin, that is very well stated. I agree with you on this.
holfresh @ 6/25/2011 12:00 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:What was MDA supposed to say, that he hated the pick and this guy has a one way ticket to the end of the pine? The fact is this guy is kind of the antithesis of what MDA values. I like the pick though and hope he's protected by the GM and hopefully defensive assistant from MDA.

He can say anything but he is the greatest I have ever seen or he can stop the three best players on the planet...

Knicksfan @ 6/25/2011 12:07 PM
MDA knows this is the year he has to show everybody he can be a complete coach and shut the cries of no D. I believe he wanted Shumpert over whoever was available and trully values what he brings. To his credit., he started talking more about D last season. The Knicks had a great defensive showing against the Celtics. I really think MDA will allow a defensive specialist and will add defense to the qualities wanted in a player, as Iman here shows. I really think he wants to stay in NY and will do his best to stay here.
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