Knicks · New Article on E. Curry Going to Miami (page 1)

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Eddy Curry might not be as famous or beloved as the Queen of daytime television, but we've gotten to the point where we are giving the trials and tribulations of his weight loss battle the Oprah Winfrey treatment. Here we all stand on the sidelines cheering (or jeering) as Curry steps onto the scale, desperate to find fulfillment in the numbers staring back at him.

The Miami Herald reports that the former Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks center continues to slim down and, after months of work, is approaching the target zone where the Miami Heat, the reigning Eastern Conference champions, might take a look.

Center Eddy Curry is increasing his chances of generating serious interest from the Heat. Respected Chicago-based trainer Tim Grover said last week that since Curry’s workout with Miami in late June, he has lost another 28 pounds and is now at 300. Curry weighed 350 when he auditioned for Miami in March. Curry intrigues Pat Riley, who might offer him a minimum deal post-lockout if he loses another 12 pounds or so. His skills “are there, no question,” Grover said.
This is roughly the 397th time in the last six months we've heard about Curry's progress. Word first trickled out back in March, the signing rumors picked up in April, the Heat passed on him and then he went back for futher workouts in June and here we are.

Curry spent last season on the Knicks but was dumped on the Minnesota Timberwolves to help facilitate the trade that brought Carmelo Anthony to New York. He was then bought out of the remainder of his contract by the Timberwolves. He hasn't appeared in a single game this season and has played just 10 games combined since the beginning of the 2008-2009 season.

As he continues on his Biggest Loser conquest Curry is one of the potential biggest winners of the lockout, considering that any delay in the league's schedule only gives him more time to achieve his target weight prior to the start of training camp.

Miami has Joel Anthony, Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Dexter Pittman on the books for next season and a trio of last year's big men -- Erick Dampier, Jamaal Magloire and Juwan Howard -- all saw their contract expire. In other words, there's clearly room for multiple incoming big men, even one with a really troubled past and especially one willing to settle for the veteran's minimum.

Curry wouldn't just be settling. At this point he would be ecstatic to get another NBA pay check. Cue the neon sign instructing the audience to chant, "12 more pounds! 12 more pounds!"

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If Curry's fat butt could get down to 280 pounds or so, he could contribute on an NBA team. If he really is at 300 then that is smaller than he has been since 2008. I think even that great summer he had 2 years ago, he was only at 303. My prediction. Curry gets down to 290, Riley signs him, Curry gets hurt by the end of training camp (assuming there is a season), he is cut by December, and that is the last we will hear about Eddy Curry until the next time someone prints an article about broke NBA players.

He gets hurt one week into training camp, and is cut prior to the season starting. What would possibly go on inside Riley's head at this point that would make Curry "intriguing"? Shaq hangover?

This is beyond sad.

Why on earth would he let himself get up to 350?! Every time I read an Eddy Curry article, it's about how much weight he lost that he somehow had managed to put on. The guy has probably lost about 10,000 pounds in his adulthood at this point.

jrodmc wrote:He gets hurt one week into training camp, and is cut prior to the season starting. What would possibly go on inside Riley's head at this point that would make Curry "intriguing"? Shaq hangover?

This is beyond sad.

it's like you're sitting at the blackjack table - you lose 13 hands in a row....but, god damnit, you KNOW the next hand is gonna be a blackjack! then you get a 6/10 w the dealer showing an ace and you realize you just been had AGAIN!

Bonn1997 wrote:Why on earth would he let himself get up to 350?! Every time I read an Eddy Curry article, it's about how much weight he lost that he somehow had managed to put on. The guy has probably lost about 10,000 pounds in his adulthood at this point.

Depression. Poor upbringing (i.e., McD's thrice a day). Ignorance/stupidity.

The usual things.

Eddy Curry is the poster-child for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

The tough thing about Curry is that even when he has gotten somewhat into shape he gets hurt. He has a lot of talent if he could ever get his head and body right.

Markji wrote:Eddy Curry is the poster-boy for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

What points are those? Dolan deserves to pay every penny he stupidly guaranteed those guys.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:Eddy Curry is the poster-child for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

What points are those? Dolan deserves to pay every penny he stupidly guaranteed those guys.

I don't agree. If the fault is in the player not being in shape to play; i.e., 50+ pounds overweight, the player should be held accountable. Eddy was never held accountable and received his $10 million salary/yr for 2 years.

It's really a bad thing for your health when you yo yo up and down that drastically. Curry has no choice given his finances and how he's blown money, but I don't know if he's got the passion for the game to make his comeback successful. I'm so glad we've moved on from guys like this. I want passionate and hungry players on my team. I just don't know if Curry loves the game. I just think it's the only way he knows to make money and that it's the only thing really motivating him right now.

Hey remember how sad it was when Shawn Kemp put on all that weight? I couldn't believe he let himself go like that. Players have to have pride and dedication to their career. IMO you can still enjoy your money and keep yourself in shape. There's just no excuse.

It is very hard for big mommas to lose the pounds... Sweets are sweet and big-macs are testy.
Everthing that Eddy showed to his driver was false bubble-gum mashinery...

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:Eddy Curry is the poster-boy for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

What points are those? Dolan deserves to pay every penny he stupidly guaranteed those guys.

I don't agree. If the fault is in the player not being in shape to play; i.e., 50+ pounds overweight, the player should be held accountable. Eddy was never held accountable and received his $10 million salary/yr for 2 years.

That was a risk Dolan knew going into both contracts. You shouldn't be bailed out if the risks you are aware of going into a contract occur. The only occurs in a risk free fairy land.

Both sides are obliged legally and morally to fulfill a contract. Dolan did. Eddy didn't.

Markji wrote:Both sides are obliged legally and morally to fulfill a contract. Dolan did. Eddy didn't.

If there was a breach of contract, Dolan can argue it in court. (I highly doubt he'd win though.) We already have a legal system that protects employers and employees from genuine contract breaches. Performing way below expectations or being fat is not a contract breach unless it's a stated requirement of the contract (and even then you'd have to establish that it was a substantive breach of contract).

I agree with you on the morality comment but the CBA is not about moral rights and wrongs.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:Both sides are obliged legally and morally to fulfill a contract. Dolan did. Eddy didn't.

If there was a breach of contract, Dolan can argue it in court. (I highly doubt he'd win though.) We already have a legal system that protects employers and employees from genuine contract breaches. Performing way below expectations or being fat is not a contract breach unless it's a stated requirement of the contract (and even then you'd have to establish that it was a substantive breach of contract).

Besides, even if widdoJimmie managed to win in court, the ACLW would beat it back on appeal by saying fat people cannot be discriminated against contractually.

Moonangie wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Why on earth would he let himself get up to 350?! Every time I read an Eddy Curry article, it's about how much weight he lost that he somehow had managed to put on. The guy has probably lost about 10,000 pounds in his adulthood at this point.

Depression. Poor upbringing (i.e., McD's thrice a day). Ignorance/stupidity.

The usual things.

How about good old fashioned laziness?

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:Eddy Curry is the poster-boy for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

What points are those? Dolan deserves to pay every penny he stupidly guaranteed those guys.

I don't agree. If the fault is in the player not being in shape to play; i.e., 50+ pounds overweight, the player should be held accountable. Eddy was never held accountable and received his $10 million salary/yr for 2 years.

That was a risk Dolan knew going into both contracts. You shouldn't be bailed out if the risks you are aware of going into a contract occur. The only occurs in a risk free fairy land.

Or in EddyCurryville where you get 11 million for being fat and injured, and then 3 million for being unwanted.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:Eddy Curry is the poster-boy for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

What points are those? Dolan deserves to pay every penny he stupidly guaranteed those guys.

I don't agree. If the fault is in the player not being in shape to play; i.e., 50+ pounds overweight, the player should be held accountable. Eddy was never held accountable and received his $10 million salary/yr for 2 years.

That was a risk Dolan knew going into both contracts. You shouldn't be bailed out if the risks you are aware of going into a contract occur. The only occurs in a risk free fairy land.

Or in EddyCurryville where you get 11 million for being fat and injured, and then 3 million for being unwanted.

That's what Dolan signed. No one held a gun to his head. He chose to give Eddy a contract that would remain in effect regardless of Eddy's weight.

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:Eddy Curry is the poster-boy for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

What points are those? Dolan deserves to pay every penny he stupidly guaranteed those guys.

I don't agree. If the fault is in the player not being in shape to play; i.e., 50+ pounds overweight, the player should be held accountable. Eddy was never held accountable and received his $10 million salary/yr for 2 years.

That was a risk Dolan knew going into both contracts. You shouldn't be bailed out if the risks you are aware of going into a contract occur. The only occurs in a risk free fairy land.

Or in EddyCurryville where you get 1120 million for being fat and injured, and then 3 million for being unwanted by the Wolves.

That's what Dolan signed. No one held a gun to his head. He chose to give Eddy a contract that would remain in effect regardless of Eddy's weight.

Dolan the Idiot Owner/Isaiah the Supreme Moron GM point conceded. I was just commenting on the risk free fairy land that someone like Eddy Curry must live in. I suppose if the man had turned out to be a faster, better shooting version of Shaq that had managed to lead us to the playoffs year after year, we'd get to experience the upside of contractural risk. But even if that happens, where's the risk in EddyCurryville? The outside possibility that he wouldn't have gotten a max contract? Just sayin.

Ahhh, send closk. This is just a working stiff pus-relief rant. Money for nothing. Get your chicks for free.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:Eddy Curry is the poster-boy for the owners on wanting to change guaranteed contracts. It's too bad because I am more for the players, but in looking at Eddy's (and Jerome James') situations these past few years, the owners do have a few valid points. Not enough though to postpone the season.

What points are those? Dolan deserves to pay every penny he stupidly guaranteed those guys.

I don't agree. If the fault is in the player not being in shape to play; i.e., 50+ pounds overweight, the player should be held accountable. Eddy was never held accountable and received his $10 million salary/yr for 2 years.

That was a risk Dolan knew going into both contracts. You shouldn't be bailed out if the risks you are aware of going into a contract occur. The only occurs in a risk free fairy land.

Or in EddyCurryville where you get 1120 million for being fat and injured, and then 3 million for being unwanted by the Wolves.

That's what Dolan signed. No one held a gun to his head. He chose to give Eddy a contract that would remain in effect regardless of Eddy's weight.

Dolan the Idiot Owner/Isaiah the Supreme Moron GM point conceded. I was just commenting on the risk free fairy land that someone like Eddy Curry must live in. I suppose if the man had turned out to be a faster, better shooting version of Shaq that had managed to lead us to the playoffs year after year, we'd get to experience the upside of contractural risk. But even if that happens, where's the risk in EddyCurryville? The outside possibility that he wouldn't have gotten a max contract? Just sayin.

Ahhh, send closk. This is just a working stiff pus-relief rant. Money for nothing. Get your chicks for free.

The risk to the players is that you get a bad injury and live the rest of your life in pain.