Knicks · Lebron trying to recruit Nash. (page 1)

Nalod @ 10/29/2011 1:40 PM
LeBron James has taken to Twitter to attempt to solve some of Miami’s positional troubles.

He started at the top:
"Maybe @SteveNash in a Heat uni! So we can help each other get our 1st ring"


He then went a fair bit lower, but a bit more street:
"Would love to see @JCrossover in a Heat uni! What u guys say?"

I say: "great lebron, more guys to take the last shot the better!"

Dumb ass trying to inflame the owners more? Does his ego have any limits?

If miami was smart, they could trade Lebron for the pieces they need to compliment Wade and Bosh.

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 10/29/2011 3:30 PM
He needs all the help he can get and he knows it.
Nalod @ 10/30/2011 1:42 PM
we all love superstars. They are arrogant, make millions and are kings of the universe.

This guy is really turning me off more and more.

Jordan to me set the benchmark of the self centered athlete but he did it with a sense of strength and to some degree privacy. Lebron is just taking the entitlement to a whole level of being an asshole. He is the king. Some kings are better than others.

Jordan amazed me and I hated to see what he did to the knicks but I shook my head and appreciated who he was and what he does.

This kid just amazes me to what an ass he is.

David Stern has issues. The look of disgust on his face does not match the mood of his customers. His ominous tone is largely ignored by a country obsessed with football and spellbound by the recent baseball playoffs. He is cancelling basketball games that few people will miss.

That's a problem.

So are LeBron James and the new generation he represents.


Throughout this contentious, four-month lockout, there have been the unmistakable sounds of rebellion. A defiant Dwyane Wade reportedly told the NBA commissioner to stop pointing his finger at him, adding "I'm not your child."

Observers have been astounded by the quick-trigger anger of some players, a condition exacerbated by social-media platforms. James and Chris Paul reportedly vowed to miss the season rather than concede anything else to ownership. And along the way, HBO's Bryant Gumbel likened Stern's management style to that of a plantation owner.

Stern might be elitist and condescending, but the slave-owner reference was terribly unfair. Stern is one of the more-progressive, liberal commissioners to police a sport. His heavy-handed dress code wasn't born from racism, rather to guard the brand and appease corporate sponsors.

Still, the mood is real, and Gumbel's microburst of opinion did not materialize from thin air. Stern is fighting a powerful surge and mind-set among players, and so far, his classic bullying tactics aren't working. If anything, they are having the opposite effect.

There is a chance that rank-and-file NBA players will begin to cave in the coming weeks, when the first paychecks are missed. But there is a growing fear that these players are bold enough to reject the owners on pride and principle, especially if they're led by the audacity of James.

From the moment he became a national sensation as a high school phenomenon, James has played by his own rules. He will not be controlled by coaches, owners or team executives. He pursues his own happiness without apologies. His decision to flee Cleveland for South Beach regardless of image or consequence rocked the NBA to its core.

Many in the media chastised James for his actions. Many NBA legends criticized James for joining someone else's team, for breaking away from the superstar archetype. Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley were appalled, and Magic Johnson still is poking fun at the NBA's ring-less leader.

But inside the game, it's a different story. Among a new generation of players and fans alike, James is more than the best basketball player on the planet.

He represents power and freedom, an athlete unchained by the boundaries of conformity.

Behind the scenes, during the 2008 Olympics, James' status among fellow players was impossible to miss. While Kobe Bryant acted like a perfect student around head coach Mike Krzyzewski, James struck a different pose. He wore bulky headphones to most open media sessions, making it clear he was off limits until he chose otherwise.

Once, Jerry Colangelo imported the late Myles Brand to speak to the Olympians. When Brand identified himself as president of the NCAA, James interrupted the speech with a shout from the back of the room.

"Of who?" he said.

"The NCAA," Brand responded.

"I missed you, man," he said. "My bad."

The joke was inappropriate and yet hysterical. James was pointing out that he didn't know Brand because he didn't need college to get where he was going. You could almost hear his teammates bursting with laughter, yet they remained governed by a sense of restraint.

Later, I asked Wade about James' brand of leadership, and why fellow players seemed to gravitate to him.

"He'll say anything to anybody at anytime," Wade said with near reverence.

At times, James might be misguided and tone-deaf. In a recent negotiating session, it was explained to James that the 43 percent of basketball-related income received by owners was not profit, rather a number that came before operating expenses.

According to a source, James replied, "Well, I have expenses, too."

What James isn't lacking is strength of conviction. He believes he's the chosen one. It's tattooed on his back. He's the king, and he's not going to bow down to anyone.

Now that contract talks have broken down yet again, he's a reminder that NBA owners better be careful how hard they push. James is the leader of a new generation, and just the other day, he tweeted about a desire to play with Steve Nash in Miami, saying "we can help each other get our 1st ring!"

Let's hope he doesn't always get what he wants.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2011/10/29/20111029nba-lockout-players-stern-warning.html#ixzz1cHrGeBh49

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 10/30/2011 7:39 PM
Jordan's arrogance was contained, it was within the basketball world. And he backed it up.

Lebron's bullshit is all over, it's over the top, spilling all over the place. And it's not justified, it has no backing in basketball accomplishment.

Nalod @ 10/30/2011 9:25 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Jordan's arrogance was contained, it was within the basketball world. And he backed it up.

Lebron's bullshit is all over, it's over the top, spilling all over the place. And it's not justified, it has no backing in basketball accomplishment.

We'll put.

Being able to say anything to anyone lacks consideration. There is a time and a place for everything.

knicks1248 @ 10/30/2011 9:35 PM
Time will tell...James will be a role player before he gets a ring
mikesknicks @ 10/30/2011 9:38 PM
Jordan was Batman Lebron is Robin end of story.
jrodmc @ 10/31/2011 9:50 AM

Of what? His pregame fits his career so far: Dust in the Wind.

Second the opinions on Jordan; he was egocentric, but the man ran rookies out of the league and backed up his mouth consistently. He wanted to win, and let winning make him King of the Brand. His leaping rant after beating Cleveland in the playoffs is still one of the best moments ever in the NBA:

"Go home, Fucks!"

LeStooge Royale has been annointed prior to attaining squat, and his primary legacy so far is how to tank games.

Nalod @ 10/31/2011 10:10 AM

Muhammad Ali was an obnoxious prick, but he was considerate to the media, was playful, intelligent and backed it up.

Dude also paid a dear price for his convictions (went to jail in the prime of his career).

What further impressed me even more was when he came out he was not (publically)bitter. He came back and boxed!

Jordan blazed a whole era of marketing and substantial wealth. He kept his discretions private, which Lebron does also. Jordan was the mentally toughest player I have ever seen. Played hurt, Played sick, and he played BIG in the moment.

Lebron has yet to even scratch that surface. Hope he can evolve as an adult.

OjilEye @ 10/31/2011 12:49 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Kobe has accomplished immensely more than what Lebron has to this point in his career, and Kobe is just as laser sharp focused without having to resort to twitter and theatrics a la Lebron.

It's sad to see this lockout affect what could be Kobe's final year as a top 8 player in the league.

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 10/31/2011 12:53 PM
OjilEye wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Kobe has accomplished immensely more than what Lebron has to this point in his career, and Kobe is just as laser sharp focused without having to resort to twitter and theatrics a la Lebron.

It's sad to see this lockout affect what could be Kobe's final year as a top 8 player in the league.

This is a strong observation.

LeBron's psychic energies are being squandered on superficial pursuits. There is no other problem. If he ever directs his focus solely to basketball, we will not even be comparing Jordan to him.

Nalod @ 10/31/2011 7:12 PM
What does Jordan and Kobe have in common?

Rings?

MVP's?

Jax!

Jordan was a high flying machine but Jax nurtured the greatness.

Bryant was a self centered ass on the path of being an ass until Lots of Jax got into his head.

Also Jordan and Kobe have had fathers in their lives. On a side note its amazing what Stat had to go thru with his mother and no father. Its the reason he went low in the draft.

Lebron still has time to reconcile his persona.

Panos @ 10/31/2011 9:56 PM
Dear Lebron,
You've got only as many rings as me. And I can barely make a lefty layup.
Suck it.
jrodmc @ 11/1/2011 1:50 PM
Panos wrote:Dear Lebron,
You've got only as many rings as me. And I can barely make a lefty layup.
Suck it.

+1 Signature quality

We should start a "Quality Posts of the Lockout Era" Tournament

or maybe not.

tj23 @ 11/2/2011 11:54 AM
Thats pathetic. If Miami was smart they would attempt to move bosh. He's been a complete failure and lebron should come off the bench in the playoffs lol
DurzoBlint @ 11/2/2011 12:40 PM
tj23 wrote:Thats pathetic. If Miami was smart they would attempt to move bosh. He's been a complete failure and lebron should come off the bench in the playoffs lol

umm, if you remember, He was Mr. Consistent for them in the Post Season. LaShawn I mean LeBron was the one playing like tiny tim in lower case when it mattered.

jrodmc @ 11/2/2011 2:42 PM
It's a good thing Riles got his chip in 2006.

Otherwise the imminent destruction of this Trifucta would have probably driven him to hop in front of a bus.

DurzoBlint @ 11/2/2011 2:54 PM
jrodmc wrote:It's a good thing Riles got his chip in 2006.

Otherwise the imminent destruction of this Trifucta would have probably driven him to hop in front of a bus.

imminent destruction, what do you mean? From what I've read the cap is actually going up so, I don't see a threat to the big 2.5

Nalod @ 11/2/2011 3:04 PM

As long as they are the Beasts in the East, they are that much closer to winning a chip than not.

I recall when the knicks used to smack down Riles and the Heat at the very least it was a good season even if the Bulls did us in the playoffs.

DurzoBlint @ 11/2/2011 3:15 PM
Nalod wrote:
As long as they are the Beasts in the East, they are that much closer to winning a chip than not.

I recall when the knicks used to smack down Riles and the Heat at the very least it was a good season even if the Bulls did us in the playoffs.

YEAH, it made going fishing so much easier to bear when we beat Pat the Rat. Unfortunately,the Bad Karma he earned from doing us dirty (resigning by fax...you gotta be kidding me) only lasted through the Ewing Years.

jrodmc @ 11/3/2011 10:10 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
jrodmc wrote:It's a good thing Riles got his chip in 2006.

Otherwise the imminent destruction of this Trifucta would have probably driven him to hop in front of a bus.

imminent destruction, what do you mean? From what I've read the cap is actually going up so, I don't see a threat to the big 2.5

It just seems that trying to get Nash to climb on the Meame bus is something you would expect from a desperate slumdog franchise, not the supposed defacto champs of this decade. Wishful thinking on my part, but my hate for what Riles did to the Knicks knows no bounds.

Watching a Heat meltdown and disbanding (even partially) would be a nice payback. Not as good as perennially dispatching Riles in the playoffs and enjoying the Ewing domination of his boy Alonzo, but nice.

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