Knicks · Knicks going after Grant Hill and Josh Howard...Is Isiah back in the FO? (page 1)

WTF?...Is that the best we can do...Josh Howard, Grant Hill and Jared Jeffries..
Phoenix East...Just great...

holfresh wrote:WTF?...Is that the best we can do...Josh Howard, Grant Hill and Jared Jeffries..
Phoenix East...Just great...

if healthy Josh Howard is a good defender and decent scorer. Whats wrong with him in your opinion?

Honestly, I don't even remember him being in Phoenix

DurzoBlint wrote:

holfresh wrote:WTF?...Is that the best we can do...Josh Howard, Grant Hill and Jared Jeffries..
Phoenix East...Just great...

if healthy Josh Howard is a good defender and decent scorer. Whats wrong with him in your opinion?

Honestly, I don't even remember him being in Phoenix

i feel like Josh Howard lost his will to play the game. heard he had some drug issues.

i'd be scared to bring him in here. he looked like a shadow of his former self in Washington.

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

holfresh wrote:WTF?...Is that the best we can do...Josh Howard, Grant Hill and Jared Jeffries..
Phoenix East...Just great...

if healthy Josh Howard is a good defender and decent scorer. Whats wrong with him in your opinion?

Honestly, I don't even remember him being in Phoenix

i feel like Josh Howard lost his will to play the game. heard he had some drug issues.

i'd be scared to bring him in here. he looked like a shadow of his former self in Washington.

drug issues...lmao. The guy got caught smoking weed during the offseason so, he a reeaal drug addict
as far as your opinion...his losing the passion......can you give an example? Was/is it based on perception (things you've seen) or is it something you read. not being a jerk, just curious.

DurzoBlint wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

holfresh wrote:WTF?...Is that the best we can do...Josh Howard, Grant Hill and Jared Jeffries..
Phoenix East...Just great...

if healthy Josh Howard is a good defender and decent scorer. Whats wrong with him in your opinion?

Honestly, I don't even remember him being in Phoenix

i feel like Josh Howard lost his will to play the game. heard he had some drug issues.

i'd be scared to bring him in here. he looked like a shadow of his former self in Washington.

drug issues...lmao. The guy got caught smoking weed during the offseason so, he a reeaal drug addict
as far as your opinion...his losing the passion......can you give an example? Was/is it based on perception (things you've seen) or is it something you read. not being a jerk, just curious.

based on seeing him play over the past few years. he used to be one of my favorite players - when he hustled. haven't seen him hustle in years. not that i've seen all his games, but last 5 or 6 times i've seen him play, i've been extremely disappointed.

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

holfresh wrote:WTF?...Is that the best we can do...Josh Howard, Grant Hill and Jared Jeffries..
Phoenix East...Just great...

if healthy Josh Howard is a good defender and decent scorer. Whats wrong with him in your opinion?

Honestly, I don't even remember him being in Phoenix

i feel like Josh Howard lost his will to play the game. heard he had some drug issues.

i'd be scared to bring him in here. he looked like a shadow of his former self in Washington.

drug issues...lmao. The guy got caught smoking weed during the offseason so, he a reeaal drug addict
as far as your opinion...his losing the passion......can you give an example? Was/is it based on perception (things you've seen) or is it something you read. not being a jerk, just curious.

based on seeing him play over the past few years. he used to be one of my favorite players - when he hustled. haven't seen him hustle in years. not that i've seen all his games, but last 5 or 6 times i've seen him play, i've been extremely disappointed.

Is it possible that has to do with him leaving Dallas and being in Washington where the team was not as good?

I have a feeling if he was surrounded by strong talent (Melo/Stat) he might play differently but maybe I am wrong. What did he look like in Dallas the last year he was there?

I would consider him an upgrade over Fields but I admit I do not know a lot about his current situation.

LOL who do you think is willing to sign 1 year deals?

We need bodies otherwise Melo and Amare will get run into the ground. Hill and Howard can put the ball in the basket and are proven vets.

Nothing to complain about here.

I suppose we should bring back Marbury. I'm sure that would appease you, holfresh.

How is Grant Hill an Isiah type signing? Grant Hill is the consummate pro who plays defense and within the offense.

Josh Howard? That sounds more Isiah-esque than Hill.

OasisBU wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

holfresh wrote:WTF?...Is that the best we can do...Josh Howard, Grant Hill and Jared Jeffries..
Phoenix East...Just great...

if healthy Josh Howard is a good defender and decent scorer. Whats wrong with him in your opinion?

Honestly, I don't even remember him being in Phoenix

i feel like Josh Howard lost his will to play the game. heard he had some drug issues.

i'd be scared to bring him in here. he looked like a shadow of his former self in Washington.

drug issues...lmao. The guy got caught smoking weed during the offseason so, he a reeaal drug addict
as far as your opinion...his losing the passion......can you give an example? Was/is it based on perception (things you've seen) or is it something you read. not being a jerk, just curious.

based on seeing him play over the past few years. he used to be one of my favorite players - when he hustled. haven't seen him hustle in years. not that i've seen all his games, but last 5 or 6 times i've seen him play, i've been extremely disappointed.

Is it possible that has to do with him leaving Dallas and being in Washington where the team was not as good?

I have a feeling if he was surrounded by strong talent (Melo/Stat) he might play differently but maybe I am wrong. What did he look like in Dallas the last year he was there?

I would consider him an upgrade over Fields but I admit I do not know a lot about his current situation.

i'm talking about his last few years in dallas, too. his play went downhill.

there's a reason dallas was happy to jettison him. his play had dropped off dramatically. then dallas trades him away and wins a chip. i don't know, i'd be cautious of signing that guy. and again, i used to love his game.

He was another black hole in Mavericks, very similar to Melo's style of play. He had the athleticism to defend but when he reached "star status" lost his will to defend and hustle.
Ever since he left Dallas, I think due to an injury, he has never shown back that athleticism or close to his skill. I don't think we should target him. The way things sound,
Amare will be playing Center a lot and will probably break down this year...

Whats with the Isiah obsession around here ?

I'd love to get Hill. He plays d, handles the ball, passes and above all plays smart, unselfish bball.

Wait, holfresh may actually be right.

Tyson Chandler to $14 million a season? Isiah is back.

CHAOS wrote:Whats with the Isiah obsession around here ?

^what he said. Someone even posted an interview...YIKES