Knicks · Odom to Mavs for trade exception (page 1)

CrushAlot @ 12/11/2011 12:21 AM
La can't revive the trade with Paul but can take on Hedo's contract. Does this put them in the lead for Howard
BigSm00th @ 12/11/2011 12:25 AM
i think NJ can absord Hedo's contract too.

bynum or lopez; who does ORL like more?

crzymdups @ 12/11/2011 12:26 AM

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Any exception created by dealing Odom isn't big enough to take in Turkoglu. I'm not seeing LA's endgame here, nor why Dallas would help.
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Silverfuel @ 12/11/2011 12:28 AM
So LA does Bynum + picks for Dwight and they get to keep Pau?
Michael6835 @ 12/11/2011 12:28 AM
So what happens to cp3 now?
CrushAlot @ 12/11/2011 12:30 AM
I also think that Cuban wants Deron. There is no way that Deron stays in NJ without a second star and Bropez isn't that guy.
SupremeCommander @ 12/11/2011 12:53 AM
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Any exception created by dealing Odom isn't big enough to take in Turkoglu. I'm not seeing LA's endgame here, nor why Dallas would help.
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I don't think this is rocket science. The Mavs get a year of service from Odom, decline his option next year, and sign Williams outright if he's serious about leaving NJ

CrushAlot @ 12/11/2011 1:02 AM
They also could sign Paul if he finishes the year with the Hornets. Stern F'd up with that trade. Also it seems like Cuban is the best friend of other large market owners and they may all win.
Bonn1997 @ 12/11/2011 7:44 AM
The Lakers gave away Odom for just a trade exception?!?! Why couldn't we have gotten involved in that?
y2zipper @ 12/11/2011 11:32 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:The Lakers gave away Odom for just a trade exception?!?! Why couldn't we have gotten involved in that?

Because Lamar Odom is an overpaid scrub who isn't going to take anywhere but LA seriously and he makes ten million a year. The money wouldn't match up for the Knicks here.

loweyecue @ 12/11/2011 11:35 AM
Lakers are taking some serious risks here. If they don't get Howard they'll look like complete idiots.
Orlando may ship Howard to NJ or Clippers or other places. Bynum may not be that attractive an offer, Pau is soft.
CrushAlot @ 12/11/2011 11:41 AM
loweyecue wrote:Lakers are taking some serious risks here. If they don't get Howard they'll look like complete idiots.
Orlando may ship Howard to NJ or Clippers or other places. Bynum may not be that attractive an offer, Pau is soft.

They ended the season with some major locker room issues. I don't remember what exactly but was Odom a problem?
BigSm00th @ 12/11/2011 11:43 AM
loweyecue wrote:Lakers are taking some serious risks here. If they don't get Howard they'll look like complete idiots.
Orlando may ship Howard to NJ or Clippers or other places. Bynum may not be that attractive an offer, Pau is soft.

did you hear odom on the radio interview after the hornets trade fell apart? guy sounded like he was crying. he then showed up to training camp 2 hours late, went straight to talk to mitch kupchack, and then went home.

lakers had to deal this guy. he is emotionally fragile and was not going to be checked in.

lakers can turn around and use that exception on someone else.

RonRon @ 12/11/2011 1:53 PM
does this put them out of Dalembert sweepstakes? At the very least the 1 year deal should be gone.
Look's like Samuel Dalembert want's to get as much money as he can, I am petrified of these kind of players that could do pull a Jerome James.
Nalod @ 12/11/2011 7:58 PM
in the end OhDumb was "offended" and wanted out. Pau was very professional about the deal and seemingly was great about it. Its been written new lakes would have a smaller role than Jax asked him.

Dude sounded very emotional.

loweyecue @ 12/11/2011 8:26 PM
I don't know what Odom's emotional issues are. Clearly not bein met by Khloey.
But the Lakers had the best front court in business and had three players that could have played together for a few more years. KObe plus a three headed monster >>> Kobe plus Dwight Howard.

They will still win lots of games but if they fall in the playoffs the fingerpointing will be fun to watch.

The Knicks now have the three headed monster. Now let's go hunt us some little green men.

technomaster @ 12/11/2011 10:13 PM
Why did LA deal him to Dallas? How is it that there were no other teams particularly in the Eastern Conference, or at least non-playoff... that were will/able to do the same offer?

Odom's a pretty good player. Trading him to the team that just won it all - in the same conference?!

loweyecue @ 12/11/2011 10:20 PM
LA is desperate. But instead of keeping the core intact they are doing what we do. They are strap hiking, but also taking a big risk to do so. If they trade Pau for Dwight, Bynum is redundant and they will see a drop in scoring. RonRon isn't what he used to be, I don't really see how they will improve.
VCoug @ 12/11/2011 11:10 PM
Does anyone understand what LA is doing this offseason? The trade they had in place for Chris Paul was, I believe, really bad for them. And now they trade Odom for a protected 1st and a trade exemption; one that doesn't apparently help their chances of getting Dwight. I just don't get it.
Mray20 @ 12/11/2011 11:15 PM
Khloe and Lamar go to Texas?
RonRon @ 12/12/2011 12:16 AM
I think for 3 reasons.

1) Odom no, longer felt comfortable to being in Lakers, Dallas, being a contender could use his services. They did Odom a favor by letting him compete and received a pick in it.

2) Laker's aren't done dealing, when dealing with a rebuilding team, the exemption could be worth more. If dealing Odom to a rebuilding team, he wouldn't be happy. On top of it, he
has a player opt out that he probably doesn't want to use at this point of his career. It could possibly be the biggest contract he will see again. When a team is looking to
unload salary, the exemption, can take salary cap instantly off and save money to the rebuilding team.

3) Their eyes, are now on Dwight, after not matching up with New Orleans and Stern. They believe they can offer Gasol or Bynum, with multiple draft picks, and take back Turkeglu.
Which would be used to play Odom's position. To get Dwight Howard, they have picks, a young player, or Center piece to build around, and salary to take back Turk.


Clipper's can probably obtain Dwight or Cp3, they have some interesting young pieces to offer, with the Wolve's unprotected pick in this year's draft? They have a center in Deandre Jordan and Kaman. For their team, probably adding Cp3 would make their team more efficient. However, Dwight is one of a kind species. Don't think they can trade Deandre Jordan till
deadline though. I also don't think Turkoglu fits in Clipper's as well vs Lakers. With Griffen at PF, Butler and Turkoglu might to have to speed/quickness to guard SG's at this point of their careers.

LA Clippers assets
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Wolves unprotected pick
Clipper's pick

Blake Griffen - he is a beast but Dwight is truly one of a kind, if they play their cards right, they can obtain Cp3 and Dwight if they are willing to part with Blake
Eric Gordon
Bledsoe
Aminu

Mo Williams
Kaman
Randy Foye

Deandre Jordan

Lakers Assets
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Dallas 1st round pick
Their 1st round picks
trade exemption for Odom 8m?

Bynum
Gasol

Darrius Morris

Orlando
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Dwight Howard
Turkeglu

will probably also look to unload

Duhon 3 year 11million
Q Richardson 3 year 8 million

Reddick 2 year 12.5m
Nelson 2 year 15m

I think these guys aren't as bad with shorter contracts and being way more productive and younger.

New Orleans
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Cp3
Ok4

Ariza
Jarret Jack

Ariza and Jack are asset's but it's they could deal them to sweeten up the deal if the price was right.


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Clippers can give an offer of

Blake Griffen/Kaman/Aminu 1 Clipper 1st rounder for just Dwight and not taking Turkeglu back but taking Richardson and Duhon

Griffen is probably the best player in his rookie contract with that much upside for a big man.
However, can the Magic, be able to build around him, before he decides to leave.


Cp3/Ok4/Ariza, Jack

Wolves 1st rounder
Mo Williams, Eric Gordon, Bledsoe, Randy Foye

Clippers lineup after trades
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Cp3
Ariza/Jack
Butler
Ok4
Dwight Howard

Deandre Jordan * could be moved in dead line*
Jarret Jack
Gomes
Q Richardson
Duhon

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