Knicks · How Long Does It Take A Roster Of Strangers To Play As One? (page 3)
“We’ve got a good team and good guys,” D’Antoni said. “I’m going to enjoy this year no matter what.” He quickly added, “It’s easier said than done.”
The truth is, the Knicks are effectively a brand-new team, with no established chemistry, a thin bench and precious little time to work out the kinks because of the lockout-shortened schedule.
The Knicks have seven new players, two new starters and a former All-Star point guard — Baron Davis — waiting to join the fray once his back heals. Even Anthony, the new face of the team, just arrived in February.
The starting backcourt features a third-year point guard, Toney Douglas, and a second-year shooting guard, Landry Fields. Two rookies could be in the rotation.
Every team is dealing with a short two-week training camp and a compressed 66-game schedule that will hardly allow for practice time. But it will be harder on teams with multiple new faces.
- Howard Beck, NYT
“It does seem like the third team I’ve played for since I’ve been in New York,” said Stoudemire, who arrived 18 months ago. “But I’d rather play for the third team right now, because we’re looking pretty good.”
nixluva wrote:I think the big difference is going to be the defense. It is such a huge change having Tyson. Tyson is basically the QB of the defense. He's calling the plays and making sure guys are in the right place and most of all he's active and giving help. In truth the Knicks D was actually better than it often looked. What really killed us was 2nd chance points. Not being able to finish off a defensive stand was a huge problem. By rebounding better this team can make a big improvement on D. That will lead to more easy points.
I lost track of the times excellent defense was played but the rebound was not secured. Sometimes it would be 3 straight shot attempts before possession changed. If the games against the Nets are any indication Chandler's addition has addressed that issue.
Toney Douglas at lead guard until the offense becomes unbearably stagnant
Landry Fields
Carmelo at point forward to compensate for Douglas
Amar'e
Tyson Chandler as the traffic cop
Plan 9 From Outer Space (The MLK jr Matinee)
Iman Shumpert starts at lead guard and the rookie errors are forgiven as he learns, applaud his defense, long live the BBC
Landry as secondary ball handler
Carmelo for three
Amar'e lands awkwardly on his ankle and Josh Harrellson takes his place
Tyson Chandler has a bodyguard and the Knicks rebounding numbers are through the pinwheel roof
Renaldo Balkman is playing with passion and effectiveness
Steve Novak for three
Bill Walker is released, Devin Green is resigned
The St Valentines Day Massacre
Baron Davis hears it from the crowd
Iman Shumpert finds his voice and shot selection
Carmelo is Carmelo
Amar'e returns from his ankle injury at 90 per cent, which is good enough
Tyson Chandler is routinely bringing a double double
Landry Fields as sixth man reprising the role of John Havlicek, it's not who starts but who finishes
Jorts is headed to the All Rookie game
Toney Douglas anchors the second unit
The Ides of March
Trade deadline anxiety is fueled by speculations that Danilo Gallinari was spotted having dinner with Mike D'Antoni
I've played A LOT of pickup ball man.
SELFISH PLAYERS (Melo) = crap
UNSELFISH PLAYERS (Amare) = easy
AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:Honestly...I've played A LOT of pickup ball man.
SELFISH PLAYERS (Melo) = crap
UNSELFISH PLAYERS (Amare) = easy
You may have played a lot of pickup ball but have you checked the numbers?
In the pre season (the man you = crap) Carmelo averaged 3 assists per game. He did the same last season with the Knicks. 3.8 at Denver.
On the other hand, Amar'e averaged 1.5 assists in the pre season and only 1.7 last season. (He also averaged 4 turnovers per)
So, who is the more "selfish" player?
misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:Honestly...I've played A LOT of pickup ball man.
SELFISH PLAYERS (Melo) = crap
UNSELFISH PLAYERS (Amare) = easy
You may have played a lot of pickup ball but have you checked the numbers?
In the pre season (the man you = crap) Carmelo averaged 3 assists per game. He did the same last season with the Knicks. 3.8 at Denver.
On the other hand, Amar'e averaged 1.5 assists in the pre season and only 1.7 last season.
So, who is the more "selfish" player?
Lol, well one's a PF buddy.
One's a primary handler.
And Amare promotes movement dude.
3 apg is crap.
AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:Honestly...I've played A LOT of pickup ball man.
SELFISH PLAYERS (Melo) = crap
UNSELFISH PLAYERS (Amare) = easy
You may have played a lot of pickup ball but have you checked the numbers?
In the pre season (the man you = crap) Carmelo averaged 3 assists per game. He did the same last season with the Knicks. 3.8 at Denver.
On the other hand, Amar'e averaged 1.5 assists in the pre season and only 1.7 last season.
So, who is the more "selfish" player?
Lol, well one's a PF buddy.
One's a primary handler.
And Amare promotes movement dude.
3 apg is crap.
What would you call 4 turnovers per game?
misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:Honestly...I've played A LOT of pickup ball man.
SELFISH PLAYERS (Melo) = crap
UNSELFISH PLAYERS (Amare) = easy
You may have played a lot of pickup ball but have you checked the numbers?
In the pre season (the man you = crap) Carmelo averaged 3 assists per game. He did the same last season with the Knicks. 3.8 at Denver.
On the other hand, Amar'e averaged 1.5 assists in the pre season and only 1.7 last season.
So, who is the more "selfish" player?
Lol, well one's a PF buddy.
One's a primary handler.
And Amare promotes movement dude.
3 apg is crap.
What would you call 4 turnovers per game?
I'd call that crap too. lol
AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:Honestly...I've played A LOT of pickup ball man.
SELFISH PLAYERS (Melo) = crap
UNSELFISH PLAYERS (Amare) = easy
You may have played a lot of pickup ball but have you checked the numbers?
In the pre season (the man you = crap) Carmelo averaged 3 assists per game. He did the same last season with the Knicks. 3.8 at Denver.
On the other hand, Amar'e averaged 1.5 assists in the pre season and only 1.7 last season.
So, who is the more "selfish" player?
Lol, well one's a PF buddy.
One's a primary handler.
And Amare promotes movement dude.
3 apg is crap.
What would you call 4 turnovers per game?
I'd call that crap too. lol
Rather than simply calling someone crap, during this holiday season, don't you think it would be better to offer some positive insight on how Carmelo can best conform his game to the Knicks offense? Simply repeating "crap is so Scrooge-like.
We Knicks fans have so much to be thankful for, yes?
This is a brand new Knicks squad with two new starters (possibly three) and nine guys who were not here last February. That is a HUGE amount of turnover and the revised roles have YET to be determined.
Would you deploy Carmelo as point forward or is your bias against him so loud that you simply want him traded?
misterearl wrote:Rather than simply calling someone crap, during this holiday season, don't you think it would be better to offer some positive insight on how Carmelo can best conform his game to the Knicks offense? Simply repeating "crap is so Scrooge-like.We Knicks fans have so much to be thankful for, yes?
This is a brand new Knicks squad with two new starters (possibly three) and nine guys who were not here last February. That is a HUGE amount of turnover and the revised roles have YET to be determined.
Would you deploy Carmelo as point forward or is your bias against him so loud that you simply want him traded?
Well first of all buddy, I can say whatever I want about these guys. And what the heck does Scrooge have to do with freakin basketball man. Huh?
Na I mean you're right dude, THEYRE AMAZING AND I LOVE THEM ALL AND CAN I PLEASE GIVE THEM ALL HANDJIBBERS FOR XMAS...
Second, IT IS CRAP. And you know it..
Third, the triangle.
Fourth, who the hell said I wanted his ass traded man.
I'm just sick of all the crap for 10 years.
Dolan's a jerk and someone needs to decapitate him, like GKF ![]()
What I'd have done is NOT done that trade. We were 2nd in Offense behind Denver.
The point was what?
OH RIGHT - FALSE HOPE AND 400 FREAKIN DOLLAR TICKETS.
Also - what does positivity about the Knicks have to do with Christmas man?
That's absurd...
AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:Rather than simply calling someone crap, during this holiday season, don't you think it would be better to offer some positive insight on how Carmelo can best conform his game to the Knicks offense? Simply repeating "crap is so Scrooge-like.We Knicks fans have so much to be thankful for, yes?
This is a brand new Knicks squad with two new starters (possibly three) and nine guys who were not here last February. That is a HUGE amount of turnover and the revised roles have YET to be determined.
Would you deploy Carmelo as point forward or is your bias against him so loud that you simply want him traded?
Well first of all buddy, I can say whatever I want about these guys.
Second, IT IS CRAP. And you know it..
Third, the triangle.
Fourth, who the hell said I wanted his ass traded man.
I'm just sick of all the crap for 10 years.
Dolan's a jerk and someone needs to decapitate him, like GKF
What I'd have done is NOT done that trade. We were 2nd in Offense behind Denver.The point was what?
OH RIGHT - FALSE HOPE AND 400 FREAKIN DOLLAR TICKETS.
Also - what does positivity about the Knicks have to do with Christmas man?
That's absurd...
Never mind, I thought you had something of value to add. I was wrong.
misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:Rather than simply calling someone crap, during this holiday season, don't you think it would be better to offer some positive insight on how Carmelo can best conform his game to the Knicks offense? Simply repeating "crap is so Scrooge-like.We Knicks fans have so much to be thankful for, yes?
This is a brand new Knicks squad with two new starters (possibly three) and nine guys who were not here last February. That is a HUGE amount of turnover and the revised roles have YET to be determined.
Would you deploy Carmelo as point forward or is your bias against him so loud that you simply want him traded?
Well first of all buddy, I can say whatever I want about these guys.
Second, IT IS CRAP. And you know it..
Third, the triangle.
Fourth, who the hell said I wanted his ass traded man.
I'm just sick of all the crap for 10 years.
Dolan's a jerk and someone needs to decapitate him, like GKF
What I'd have done is NOT done that trade. We were 2nd in Offense behind Denver.The point was what?
OH RIGHT - FALSE HOPE AND 400 FREAKIN DOLLAR TICKETS.
Also - what does positivity about the Knicks have to do with Christmas man?
That's absurd...
Never mind, I thought you had something of value to add. I was wrong.
Lol wow are you freakin serious kiddo?
Trust me when I say this buddy - I know probably FAR MORE basketball than most people do.
I was coached by Nate Archibald twice, atleast a half dozen or more camps over the years, played with college dudes in pickup games.
You just don't like an opinion, so you shyt on it?
ACTUALLY I'M RIGHT - **YOU** CLEARLY DONT HAVE ANYTHING OF "VALUE" TO ADD.
And whats sad is you know it - what was their record after the Melo trade.
LOLS.
What the heck did you add that was so freak in insightful?
Oh right...nothing.
Whatever man.
73.
73.
73.
AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:Rather than simply calling someone crap, during this holiday season, don't you think it would be better to offer some positive insight on how Carmelo can best conform his game to the Knicks offense? Simply repeating "crap is so Scrooge-like.We Knicks fans have so much to be thankful for, yes?
This is a brand new Knicks squad with two new starters (possibly three) and nine guys who were not here last February. That is a HUGE amount of turnover and the revised roles have YET to be determined.
Would you deploy Carmelo as point forward or is your bias against him so loud that you simply want him traded?
Well first of all buddy, I can say whatever I want about these guys.
Second, IT IS CRAP. And you know it..
Third, the triangle.
Fourth, who the hell said I wanted his ass traded man.
I'm just sick of all the crap for 10 years.
Dolan's a jerk and someone needs to decapitate him, like GKF
What I'd have done is NOT done that trade. We were 2nd in Offense behind Denver.The point was what?
OH RIGHT - FALSE HOPE AND 400 FREAKIN DOLLAR TICKETS.
Also - what does positivity about the Knicks have to do with Christmas man?
That's absurd...
Never mind, I thought you had something of value to add. I was wrong.
Lol wow are you freakin serious kiddo?
Trust me when I say this buddy - I know probably FAR MORE basketball than most people do.
I was coached by Nate Archibald twice, atleast a half dozen or more camps over the years, played with college dudes in pickup games.
You just don't like an opinion, so you shyt on it?
ACTUALLY I'M RIGHT - **YOU** CLEARLY DONT HAVE ANYTHING OF "VALUE" TO ADD.
And whats sad is you know it - what was their record after the Melo trade.
LOLS.
What the heck did you add that was so freak in insightful?
Oh right...nothing.
Whatever man.
73.
73.
73.
So nice to have you back.
Childs2Dudley wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:AtGuard65FromOklahomaSt wrote:misterearl wrote:Rather than simply calling someone crap, during this holiday season, don't you think it would be better to offer some positive insight on how Carmelo can best conform his game to the Knicks offense? Simply repeating "crap is so Scrooge-like.We Knicks fans have so much to be thankful for, yes?
This is a brand new Knicks squad with two new starters (possibly three) and nine guys who were not here last February. That is a HUGE amount of turnover and the revised roles have YET to be determined.
Would you deploy Carmelo as point forward or is your bias against him so loud that you simply want him traded?
Well first of all buddy, I can say whatever I want about these guys.
Second, IT IS CRAP. And you know it..
Third, the triangle.
Fourth, who the hell said I wanted his ass traded man.
I'm just sick of all the crap for 10 years.
Dolan's a jerk and someone needs to decapitate him, like GKF
What I'd have done is NOT done that trade. We were 2nd in Offense behind Denver.The point was what?
OH RIGHT - FALSE HOPE AND 400 FREAKIN DOLLAR TICKETS.
Also - what does positivity about the Knicks have to do with Christmas man?
That's absurd...
Never mind, I thought you had something of value to add. I was wrong.
Lol wow are you freakin serious kiddo?
Trust me when I say this buddy - I know probably FAR MORE basketball than most people do.
I was coached by Nate Archibald twice, atleast a half dozen or more camps over the years, played with college dudes in pickup games.
You just don't like an opinion, so you shyt on it?
ACTUALLY I'M RIGHT - **YOU** CLEARLY DONT HAVE ANYTHING OF "VALUE" TO ADD.
And whats sad is you know it - what was their record after the Melo trade.
LOLS.
What the heck did you add that was so freak in insightful?
Oh right...nothing.
Whatever man.
73.
73.
73.So nice to have you back.
Lols.
since your Martins little bitch now I see you can't even say the shyt you want little boi.
Whatever.
It's NOT nice to be back seein as how youre still trolling places like this.
K4L, RGM, UK.
Do you seriously not have a life kid?
WOW.
Also, that post was so hilariously tame before, youre passive aggressive BS means literally NOTHING to me.
For 1 of Earls, there's 13 on here that agree with every little thing I said...
Wrong AtGuard65. You speak only for yourself. You are very much alone. You got nothing. Chances are you will not be here long. That's too bad. You should be allowed to stay long enough to allow your drug infected scribbling to be unilaterally ignored.
misterearl wrote:"For 1 of Earls, there's 13 on here that agree with every little thing I said..."Wrong AtGuard65. You speak only for yourself. You are very much alone. You got nothing. Chances are you will not be here long. That's too bad. You should be allowed to stay long enough to allow your drug infected scribbling to be unilaterally ignored.
+1
misterearl wrote:"For 1 of Earls, there's 13 on here that agree with every little thing I said..."Wrong AtGuard65. You speak only for yourself. You are very much alone. You got nothing. Chances are you will not be here long. That's too bad. You should be allowed to stay long enough to allow your drug infected scribbling to be unilaterally ignored.
misterearl wrote:"For 1 of Earls, there's 13 on here that agree with every little thing I said..."Wrong AtGuard65. You speak only for yourself. You are very much alone. You got nothing. Chances are you will not be here long. That's too bad. You should be allowed to stay long enough to allow your drug infected scribbling to be unilaterally ignored.
Lols. Not even close lil buddy.
A.) YOU speak only FOR YOURSELF....OBVIOUSLY.
B.) Most people on here agree with me actually, I READ ALL THE TIME KIDDO.
C.) Drug infected are you serious asshole? WOW WHAT A PATHETIC FUCKIN FAYG YOU ARE KID GROW UP DOUCHE. YOURE JUST ASSHURT B/C I DESTROYED YOUR RETARDED NONSENSICALLY DRUNK IDIOT ASS DOWNES SYNDROME COMMENT AND B/C NO ONE GIVES A SHIT OR AGREES WITH UR LITTLE TINY DICKED ASS "OPINIONS".
“I know it’s going to be special,” (Steve Novak) said. “I just can’t wait to get out there and hear and see the fans. It’s going to be like nothing else. I mean, I’ve played [at the Garden] but never had the fans behind me when I was there. I know that it’ll be special, being the game that it is and the day that it is.”
The idea of having the New York crowd behind the New Knicks cannot be understated. Tyson Chandler plays with passion and feeds on emotion. Same with Carmelo and Stat. They feel the crowd. Add the fresh support for Harrellson and Shumpert and you have a recipe for an electric afternoon. Hopefully, the same fans who chanted for Humphries will be more in tune with NBA hoops than reality television and drown out the sound effects of the MSG production crew.
Fuggedabout the 3D intro and the music playing during play. These Knicks don't need no amplified artificial effects.
If you are going to the game tomorrow, bring your A voice.
When they put their minds to it, NY fans can lift this squad like no other arena in the NBA.
Hit the open man.
“We do not know who we are yet, or what kind of team we’ll have, or what the areas are that we need to really improve on,” D’Antoni said before tip-off.
Confidence under pressure, the Knicks showed reslience.
"I thought Amare played great today, be sure not to overlook that," Mike D'Antoni said. "What he did he was incredible."
“I don’t think we’re a lot better today than the team last year,” D’Antoni said of his new squad. “But in two months or three months, we should be a lot better than we were last year.”
Yet we found a way to win.
Today was a great sign from our character and resiliency.
But this product is SO far from over its not even close. We actually have most pieces, we just need to get them healthy and with the gameplan ready.
Toney Douglas still cannot dictate pace or tempo. He is what he is, a caddy.
"Nineteen shots is too many shots for Toney Douglas, especially if he's only going to convert eight of them."
The Really Good News
Carmelo did things other than score and manage the rock. First, he could be see chanting, "one stop" before the Celtics last possession. Second, he called the squad (some headed for the locker room) together after the game for a post-game huddle on the floor.
“Where we are going to succeed is me making other guys better,” Anthony said. “Making Toney [Douglas] better, making Landry [Fields] better, making Tyson [Chandler] that much better, getting [Stoudemire] in the right position where he can be effective, and then seeing what’s left over for me.”
The Bad News
Both Adrian Peterson and Shump took a wicked hits to the knee. Shump missed a lot of shots.
The Good News That Allows One to Breathe A Bit Easier
Shump has only a strain and not a tear. The stunning drives to the rack he missed, barely missed and can be corrected.