Knicks · Rookie of the Year Predictions (page 1)

gunsnewing @ 1/8/2012 10:00 PM
mine....SHUMPERT!!


Who are some other candidates?

martin @ 1/8/2012 10:01 PM
gunsnewing wrote:mine....SHUMPERT!!


Who are some other candidates?

This is a Knicks fan website, so our options are Shumpert, Shumpert without the knee brace and Jorts.

mrKnickShot @ 1/8/2012 10:05 PM
SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT

runner up?

SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT SHUMPERT

nixluva @ 1/8/2012 10:20 PM
I was somewhat surprised at the shooting ability of Brandon Knight. I like what i've seen from Marshon Brooks. He is gonna be a good player. In the end tho, I think Shump contributes to the wins of his team in a more impactful way, so as my Sig has said from the start, i'm pullin for Iman.

Almost forgot Rubio, who I really like.

ramtour420 @ 1/8/2012 10:20 PM
I third Shumpert for ROY
crzymdups @ 1/8/2012 10:24 PM
Rubio hands down. watch him play. he's amazing.
loweyecue @ 1/8/2012 10:37 PM
Kyrie Irving
nixluva @ 1/8/2012 11:29 PM
crzymdups wrote:Rubio hands down. watch him play. he's amazing.

If Iman keeps starting and winning he's gonna get the nod IMO, due to his defense. Right now i'd say Rubio, but that could change.

mrKnickShot @ 1/8/2012 11:32 PM
Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless
martin @ 1/8/2012 11:49 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

SupremeCommander @ 1/8/2012 11:53 PM
if Kemba Walker's minutes go up, I think the vote will go between him and Rubio
mrKnickShot @ 1/9/2012 12:04 AM
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

"right now"

It can be revisited if someone starts competing.

nixluva @ 1/9/2012 12:07 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

"right now"

It can be revisited if someone starts competing.

I think you underestimate the attention Iman is gonna get being the starting PG for the Knicks. We're gonna have a lot of National TV games and with that spotlight and wins it could raise his profile a lot.

mrKnickShot @ 1/9/2012 12:10 AM
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

"right now"

It can be revisited if someone starts competing.

I think you underestimate the attention Iman is gonna get being the starting PG for the Knicks. We're gonna have a lot of National TV games and with that spotlight and wins it could raise his profile a lot.

Rubio today:

13 points, 14 assists 6 rebounds

when Shump starts having games like that, first, I will be esctatic second we can put him in the mix

martin @ 1/9/2012 12:13 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

"right now"

It can be revisited if someone starts competing.

I think you underestimate the attention Iman is gonna get being the starting PG for the Knicks. We're gonna have a lot of National TV games and with that spotlight and wins it could raise his profile a lot.

Rubio today:

13 points, 14 assists 6 rebounds

when Shump starts having games like that, first, I will be esctatic second we can put him in the mix

he did, against that same team: 10 points, 7 assits, 5 steals.

mrKnickShot @ 1/9/2012 12:18 AM
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

"right now"

It can be revisited if someone starts competing.

I think you underestimate the attention Iman is gonna get being the starting PG for the Knicks. We're gonna have a lot of National TV games and with that spotlight and wins it could raise his profile a lot.

Rubio today:

13 points, 14 assists 6 rebounds

when Shump starts having games like that, first, I will be esctatic second we can put him in the mix

he did, against that same team: 10 points, 7 assits, 5 steals.

Nice game but not exactly the same numbers. Shumbert at least plays much better D than rubio.

martin @ 1/9/2012 12:21 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

"right now"

It can be revisited if someone starts competing.

I think you underestimate the attention Iman is gonna get being the starting PG for the Knicks. We're gonna have a lot of National TV games and with that spotlight and wins it could raise his profile a lot.

Rubio today:

13 points, 14 assists 6 rebounds

when Shump starts having games like that, first, I will be esctatic second we can put him in the mix

he did, against that same team: 10 points, 7 assits, 5 steals.

Nice game but not exactly the same numbers. Shumbert at least plays much better D than rubio.

and by year's end he'll also be on a much more winning team. We shall see how it goes.

nixluva @ 1/9/2012 12:25 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Rubio is far ahead of everyone right now that this is pointless

it's too early in the season to call it pointless (and nominate a ROY lock)?

"right now"

It can be revisited if someone starts competing.

I think you underestimate the attention Iman is gonna get being the starting PG for the Knicks. We're gonna have a lot of National TV games and with that spotlight and wins it could raise his profile a lot.

Rubio today:

13 points, 14 assists 6 rebounds

when Shump starts having games like that, first, I will be esctatic second we can put him in the mix

That's a great game. I will add that Minny is 3-5 and that big game was against the Wiz. If he does that all the time then he'll be a lock. If his team isn't winning that will effect how his game is viewed verses Iman if he can contribute to his team winning.

2011-12 Statistics

Rubio Games 8 PPG 9.9 RPG 3.90 APG 7.6 STL 1.1 EFF + 14.88
Iman Games 4 PPG 12.5 RPG 3.50 APG 3.5 STL 2.0 EFF + 13.25

I predict that it will be a lot closer as they play more games.

crzymdups @ 1/9/2012 12:53 AM
don't sleep on rubio's defense. he's actually pretty good at position defense, albeit obviously not as physical as iman. rubio held wall to 10pts 6asts today. rubio was really good at finding wall in transition and sealing him out of the lane. wall had 22pts 9asts against the knicks.

look, i want iman to succeed and think he's a great young player, but he can't be rated higher than 3rd or 4th in ROY voting right now, behind rubio and kyrie. derrick williams, brandon knight and kemba have all been good, too.

also, rubio is going to enter the starting lineup at some point and his numbers will surely go up. think he is starting minnie's next game as ridnour has some minor injury. my guess is rubio never leaves the starting lineup again.

nixluva @ 1/9/2012 1:26 AM
Not to many PG's catching Alley's as well as throwing them on the the National TV scene like Iman is gonna get. The Buzz about the Knicks is gonna be huge once they start to gel and win games. I think we're underestimating the media coverage that is gonna ensue when the season is in full swing with no Football. Knicks have way more National games than the losing teams will.
crzymdups @ 1/9/2012 1:39 AM
nixluva wrote:Not to many PG's catching Alley's as well as throwing them on the the National TV scene like Iman is gonna get. The Buzz about the Knicks is gonna be huge once they start to gel and win games. I think we're underestimating the media coverage that is gonna ensue when the season is in full swing with no Football. Knicks have way more National games than the losing teams will.

everyone will see rubio on sports center and the t'wolves will be on national tv enough.

and you're not exactly making an argument based on actual play. you want iman to win an award he maybe doesn't deserve based on his visibility? smh. i'd rather he win it for on court play.

and i'm just telling you, rubio is already the darling of the national media. ken berger went to washington today to cover the wizards game... because they were playing rubio. also, by the way, ken berger is your voting audience. he's one of the writers who gets a rookie of the year vote and he's traveling to see rubio.

this is from national coverage from one of the most respected writers in the league:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/gametracker...

Timberwolves trounce Wizards
CBSSports.com wire reports
Jan. 8, 2012

WASHINGTON -- There's no telling how different the Washington Wizards would be if they had drafted Ricky Rubio when they had the chance. Surely they couldn't be any worse than what they are now: a winless team running out of ways to express its humiliation.

Rubio and Kevin Love controlled the game in the 93-72 win for the Minnesota Timberwolves on Sunday, while the Wizards were showered with boos during a 12-point fourth quarter as they dropped to 0-8.

...

The Timberwolves selected Rubio with the No. 5 overall pick in 2009, a selection they acquired from the Wizards for guards Randy Foyeand Mike Miller. Foye and Miller are long gone from Washington, while Minnesota waited patiently for Rubio to play two more years in Spain before making his impact as a rookie this season.

Rubio had 13 points, a career-high 14 assists -- one fewer than the entire Wizards team -- and six rebounds Sunday, controlling the game during much of his 30 minutes off the bench. He entered with 1:30 remaining in the first quarter and quickly hit a 22-foot jump shot to start a 17-2 run that gave Minnesota the lead for good.

"We're happy to have him now," said Love, who had 20 points and 16 rebounds. "Today's just an example of how good he is -- and how good he can be. Who's to say? He's still working on his jump shot. He's still working on his game."

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