Knicks · Game Thread: New York Knicks (6-4) @ Memphis Grizzlies (3-6) - Thursday, January 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM EST (page 16)

misterearl @ 1/12/2012 10:55 PM
nixluva wrote:
misterearl wrote:No. "Flat" has no meaning. There is no offensive strategy to match the skill sets. We were selfish and sloppy.

Sloppy is a result of poor coaching.


Really misterearl? Are we going back to that now after a bad loss? You don't think that this is how the team is being coached to play do you? This isn't what the coaching staff is trying to get the team to look like and you know it. It's more like poor execution.

I don't know why Shump went solo or why the team as a whole just couldn't get into any kind of offense, but it happens. That doesn't mean they aren't being told what they should be doing. The last guy that I would question on offense is MDA. I think he's earned a benefit of the doubt.

How else do you explain being one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA with a license to hoist three's at a dismal rate?

When turnovers outnumber assists, something is wrong.

No benefit of anything for D'Antoni. The way they were allowed to play was inexcusable.

Excuses are for losers.

MSG3 @ 1/12/2012 10:58 PM
misterearl wrote:
nixluva wrote:
misterearl wrote:No. "Flat" has no meaning. There is no offensive strategy to match the skill sets. We were selfish and sloppy.

Sloppy is a result of poor coaching.


Really misterearl? Are we going back to that now after a bad loss? You don't think that this is how the team is being coached to play do you? This isn't what the coaching staff is trying to get the team to look like and you know it. It's more like poor execution.

I don't know why Shump went solo or why the team as a whole just couldn't get into any kind of offense, but it happens. That doesn't mean they aren't being told what they should be doing. The last guy that I would question on offense is MDA. I think he's earned a benefit of the doubt.

How else do you explain being one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA with a license to hoist three's at a dismal rate?

When turnovers outnumber assists, something is wrong.

No benefit of anything for D'Antoni. The way they were allowed to play was inexcusable.

Excuses are for losers.

Totally agree

tkf @ 1/12/2012 11:01 PM
nixluva wrote:This team isn't close to clicking on all Cylinders and anyone that has seen the team should know that. They haven't clicked on offense yet this year. There is still a lot of work to do and a lot of hope that Davis can get healthy and give the team a boost. I also think they'll bring in another vet to help, like K Mart. Too early to get too crazy about things. Gotta see how they do over time.

it is hard to click when you have mis match pieces.. baron won't be back until the end of february.. really, are we waiting on this guy? He will then have to get into game shape and then mesh with this team.... not looking good...

thank god for league pass where I can tune into Denver games.. LOL

nykshaknbake @ 1/12/2012 11:04 PM
Is it MDAs fault that guys aren't good 3 point shooters?
Is it MDAs fault that guys haven't relaized going 1 on 5 doesn't lead to success?
Guys have been in the league for years. You would have thought they'd be able to adapt to teams they see every year.

misterearl wrote:
nixluva wrote:
misterearl wrote:No. "Flat" has no meaning. There is no offensive strategy to match the skill sets. We were selfish and sloppy.

Sloppy is a result of poor coaching.


Really misterearl? Are we going back to that now after a bad loss? You don't think that this is how the team is being coached to play do you? This isn't what the coaching staff is trying to get the team to look like and you know it. It's more like poor execution.

I don't know why Shump went solo or why the team as a whole just couldn't get into any kind of offense, but it happens. That doesn't mean they aren't being told what they should be doing. The last guy that I would question on offense is MDA. I think he's earned a benefit of the doubt.

How else do you explain being one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA with a license to hoist three's at a dismal rate?

When turnovers outnumber assists, something is wrong.

No benefit of anything for D'Antoni. The way they were allowed to play was inexcusable.

Excuses are for losers.

CrushAlot @ 1/12/2012 11:14 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:Is it MDAs fault that guys aren't good 3 point shooters?
Is it MDAs fault that guys haven't relaized going 1 on 5 doesn't lead to success?
Guys have been in the league for years. You would have thought they'd be able to adapt to teams they see every year.

misterearl wrote:
nixluva wrote:
misterearl wrote:No. "Flat" has no meaning. There is no offensive strategy to match the skill sets. We were selfish and sloppy.

Sloppy is a result of poor coaching.


Really misterearl? Are we going back to that now after a bad loss? You don't think that this is how the team is being coached to play do you? This isn't what the coaching staff is trying to get the team to look like and you know it. It's more like poor execution.

I don't know why Shump went solo or why the team as a whole just couldn't get into any kind of offense, but it happens. That doesn't mean they aren't being told what they should be doing. The last guy that I would question on offense is MDA. I think he's earned a benefit of the doubt.

How else do you explain being one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA with a license to hoist three's at a dismal rate?

When turnovers outnumber assists, something is wrong.

No benefit of anything for D'Antoni. The way they were allowed to play was inexcusable.

Excuses are for losers.


If guys aren't good three point shooters as a coach should your offense be designed for them to be taking that shot so much?
Knicksfan @ 1/12/2012 11:15 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Michael6835 wrote:
Travla wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Lots of over reaction to one game. So we scrap previous 4 games efforts for one game??


They barely beat the Bobcats and Wizards and didn't look good against a tired team last night.

i disagree with this line of reasoning. you can say the wins were meaningless because they were against lesser teams and then when they beat the sixers, make an excuse for that.

you can see they came out terrible from the start on this one.

I thought the Knicks played well against the Sixers but the Sixers almost won and it was their third game in three nights and the Knicks were home.

There will ALWAYS be an excuse for a loss or a way to underestimate a win.

CrushAlot @ 1/12/2012 11:16 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Michael6835 wrote:
Travla wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Lots of over reaction to one game. So we scrap previous 4 games efforts for one game??


They barely beat the Bobcats and Wizards and didn't look good against a tired team last night.

i disagree with this line of reasoning. you can say the wins were meaningless because they were against lesser teams and then when they beat the sixers, make an excuse for that.

you can see they came out terrible from the start on this one.

I thought the Knicks played well against the Sixers but the Sixers almost won and it was their third game in three nights and the Knicks were home.

There will ALWAYS be an excuse for a loss or a way to underestimate a win.

The Knicks have one win against a team over .500. I don't think you can underestimate any wins at this point.
KNICKSBIGCATS @ 1/12/2012 11:20 PM
Tonight's game looked fixed to me.
A ridiculous number of people were on the KNICKS +4.5.
NYK coming off a 4 game winning streak....Grizzles having lost 3 in a row and no Z Randolph.....
big money coming out of NY....perfect scenario for a setup.
Knicksfan @ 1/12/2012 11:23 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Michael6835 wrote:
Travla wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Lots of over reaction to one game. So we scrap previous 4 games efforts for one game??


They barely beat the Bobcats and Wizards and didn't look good against a tired team last night.

i disagree with this line of reasoning. you can say the wins were meaningless because they were against lesser teams and then when they beat the sixers, make an excuse for that.

you can see they came out terrible from the start on this one.

I thought the Knicks played well against the Sixers but the Sixers almost won and it was their third game in three nights and the Knicks were home.

There will ALWAYS be an excuse for a loss or a way to underestimate a win.

The Knicks have one win against a team over .500. I don't think you can underestimate any wins at this point.

Yet, people do when they justify the Sixers losing because of the 3 games in 3 nights. I believe our win last night was legit, no matter how this Grizz game looked. But since we lost, people will just find a reason for the Sixers to lose instead of giving us the credit we deserve.

Knicksfan @ 1/12/2012 11:24 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Tonight's game looked fixed to me.
A ridiculous number of people were on the KNICKS +4.5.
NYK coming off a 4 game winning streak....Grizzles having lost 3 in a row and no Z Randolph.....
big money coming out of NY....perfect scenario for a setup.

For unknown reasons, ESPN had Memphis +4.

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/13/2012 7:08 AM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Tonight's game looked fixed to me.
A ridiculous number of people were on the KNICKS +4.5.
NYK coming off a 4 game winning streak....Grizzles having lost 3 in a row and no Z Randolph.....
big money coming out of NY....perfect scenario for a setup.

I can believe it.

CashMoney @ 1/13/2012 7:08 AM
Another good defensive effort and another night of horrible offense. I can't beleive we're playing good D but are having trouble scoring.

There was zero ball movement.

NYKBocker @ 1/13/2012 3:16 PM
Pissed that even after getting blown out Lin and Jerome Jordan still could not get any burn.
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/13/2012 3:19 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Pissed that even after getting blown out Lin and Jerome Jordan still could not get any burn.

Yea what's up with that? I want to see Lin play.

colombian0725 @ 1/13/2012 6:45 PM
CashMoney wrote:Another good defensive effort and another night of horrible offense. I can't beleive we're playing good D but are having trouble scoring.

There was zero ball movement.

Believe it..

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