Knicks · The Knicks are a lot of work! (page 1)

TRU @ 1/14/2012 8:38 AM
I remember a study coming out last year comparing rates of alcoholism in Mets fans and Yankee fans. Those that followed the Mets were significantly more likely to suffer from a variety of ailments.

Roving reporter for AM 1010 WINS New York John Montone went to a few sports bars to find out what fans thought of the study.

One Yankee fan said, "Alcoholism? All we drink is champagne." Another said, "If you follow a loser you become a loser."

So this year, after more than 25 years of following the Mets intensely (betting on them in junior high, idolizing Doc and Straw and Gary and Keith and Piazza and whoever) I gave them up. Just stopped watching. Just stopped caring.

When people ask about my baseball preferences, I tell them I'm a Yankee fan. If I was going to buy a baseball cap, it would be a Yankee cap.

It's getting to that point for me with the Knicks. I remember Derrick Harper and Doc Rivers in our back court. I've watched almost every game for decades. If this year doesn't work out I'm going to take the time I spend watching and hoping and checking articles and reading box scores and clicking on highlights and put it into something more productive. Perhaps I'll just find a more interesting hobby.

This is the last season that the losers at MSG and Cablevision get to suck me dry. I'm not going to become the shriveled malcontent of a basketball fan my father is.

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/14/2012 8:45 AM
Maybe the Nets would have given you an option next year, but it does not look good for them.
BasketballJones @ 1/14/2012 9:25 AM
TRU wrote:I remember a study coming out last year comparing rates of alcoholism in Mets fans and Yankee fans. Those that followed the Mets were significantly more likely to suffer from a variety of ailments.

And here's another interesting study:

[url="http://newswise.com/articles/testosterone-levels-rise-in-fans-of-winning-teams"]testosterone levels rise in fans of winning teams[/url]

...testosterone levels increased about 20 percent in fans of winning teams and decreased about 20 percent in fans of losing teams.
TRU @ 1/14/2012 9:35 AM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Maybe the Nets would have given you an option next year, but it does not look good for them.

Not a chance. I don't care what they call themselves next year.

Nalod @ 1/14/2012 9:46 AM
TRU wrote:I remember a study coming out last year comparing rates of alcoholism in Mets fans and Yankee fans. Those that followed the Mets were significantly more likely to suffer from a variety of ailments.

Roving reporter for AM 1010 WINS New York John Montone went to a few sports bars to find out what fans thought of the study.

One Yankee fan said, "Alcoholism? All we drink is champagne." Another said, "If you follow a loser you become a loser."

So this year, after more than 25 years of following the Mets intensely (betting on them in junior high, idolizing Doc and Straw and Gary and Keith and Piazza and whoever) I gave them up. Just stopped watching. Just stopped caring.

When people ask about my baseball preferences, I tell them I'm a Yankee fan. If I was going to buy a baseball cap, it would be a Yankee cap.

It's getting to that point for me with the Knicks. I remember Derrick Harper and Doc Rivers in our back court. I've watched almost every game for decades. If this year doesn't work out I'm going to take the time I spend watching and hoping and checking articles and reading box scores and clicking on highlights and put it into something more productive. Perhaps I'll just find a more interesting hobby.

This is the last season that the losers at MSG and Cablevision get to suck me dry. I'm not going to become the shriveled malcontent of a basketball fan my father is.

Interesting......

I live in North Carolina for 25 years now.

Before league pass I was dependent on national games to be televised and basically followed them on the internet.

If not for those two avenues I'd have dropped them.

I would usually go see them play in charlotte as well. Knicks also play an game every year Christmas week in Orlando which I was usually down there visiting family.

I think the question of watching every game is kind of interesting and I have this year.

What I do is DVR the games and start watching about 9:30pm. Blow thru commercials, pregame and halftime content. Takes about 90 minutes or less.

Against Memphis I found myself disinterested and fast forwarded the game. Its not that I only want to watch them win, but the philly game was horseShit, and this one was unwatchable. Marv and Reggie on TNT were brutal but honest. They called it like they say it.

Tonite, I might DVR it, but not sure I'll watch. I don't like Iso ball.

My goal was never to watch ALL the games. My wife can't imagine why I follow this loser franchise.

Many times I have said if the Nets build it right and the can capture the momentum of Brooklyn, which I think will be very big BTW, the knicks will lose many fans. NY basketball is up for grabs. Its been too many years of unfulfilled expectations and starphuching. If Nets capture a championship a whole new generation of fans will be captured.

I know the "Melo and Amare" show will take time to gel, and I am a patient man but I can't I am not frustrated over many years from this teams lack of commitment to building a quality product properly.

Me, I'll root for a quality Nets team as my history with them goes back to the Long Island days and many fond memories of DR J, John the hammer Williamson, Mr. K, Billy Paultz, BT Express, etc who won two ABA championships in 1974 and 76'. It was not the same as Knicks basketball of course. DR J. was better than any Knick but we all know why we loved those Knick teams!

Knicks will always be first, but I prefer Dolan and MSG don't test my loyalty with ignorance.

Im not giving up, but Im not buying into the starphuch that many seem get hyped up about.

What I hope and what I see are two different things.

CashMoney @ 1/14/2012 11:22 AM
Of course they're a lot of work but that's why we're called fanatics. When I was growing up the Yankees sucked, in fact they finished in last place in 1990. Now here I am 5 championships later. I went through 16 years of crap with the Giants (including the Collins 4 pick SB performance) before the run in 2007 and hopefully another this year.

Being a Knicks fan is not easy but being a true fan of a team never is. The Knicks haven't won a damn thing but I hope and continue to watch. We're 11 games into a season and have 55 more games to go this year.

Nalod @ 1/14/2012 1:58 PM
CashMoney wrote:Of course they're a lot of work but that's why we're called fanatics. When I was growing up the Yankees sucked, in fact they finished in last place in 1990. Now here I am 5 championships later. I went through 16 years of crap with the Giants (including the Collins 4 pick SB performance) before the run in 2007 and hopefully another this year.

Being a Knicks fan is not easy but being a true fan of a team never is. The Knicks haven't won a damn thing but I hope and continue to watch. We're 11 games into a season and have 55 more games to go this year.

Bronx Zoo of the late 70's was a hoot. Read up on them. Reggie, Munson, Mickey rivers, Catfish, Sparky, etc....The team was a trip!

holfresh @ 1/14/2012 2:05 PM
Wow...It ain't that serious guys...
Sangfroid @ 1/14/2012 3:39 PM
holfresh wrote:Wow...It ain't that serious guys...

Thank you! The next thing you know, you're outside of some bar, fighting because someone dissed your team, or your shirt, or your team's mascot...SMH

ramtour420 @ 1/14/2012 5:49 PM
Speaking of which: we need a mascot!!!
CashMoney @ 1/14/2012 6:53 PM
Nalod wrote:
CashMoney wrote:Of course they're a lot of work but that's why we're called fanatics. When I was growing up the Yankees sucked, in fact they finished in last place in 1990. Now here I am 5 championships later. I went through 16 years of crap with the Giants (including the Collins 4 pick SB performance) before the run in 2007 and hopefully another this year.

Being a Knicks fan is not easy but being a true fan of a team never is. The Knicks haven't won a damn thing but I hope and continue to watch. We're 11 games into a season and have 55 more games to go this year.

Bronx Zoo of the late 70's was a hoot. Read up on them. Reggie, Munson, Mickey rivers, Catfish, Sparky, etc....The team was a trip!

I know all about the Bronx zoo. Who says you need to like each other to win?

BasketballJones @ 1/14/2012 11:46 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Speaking of which: we need a mascot!!!

How about a down and out alcoholic with low testosterone levels?

TRU @ 1/15/2012 7:50 AM
I'm sure we have one of those around here somewhere
Nalod @ 1/15/2012 8:28 AM
Tips for staying calm:

Had a lovely dinner with my wife as we watched the 9ers-Saints game! What a game! Amazing!

Turned on Bronc's-Pats and watched the crucifixion for the first half. Retired to the den to watch the rest of the game but wife was sleepy as was I. Fired up the DVR to watch the knick game. After few minutes I appeared we are anemic without Melo. Fast foward to second period, same thing. Third, then done. Took 30 minutes. Im not watching them to win, but like a bad movie Im not watching crap either.

Erase, hope for a better tomorrow!

After 38 years of non championship game you get used to it. If they got game, win or lose I am in there. If they are young and rebuilding but playing hard I am in there.

When they are bloated starphuchers I am not bought in.

With Melo I did see some progress, without they are listless and lacking in talent to compete at this time.

Scouting report got Shumps number and he is no superstar yet.

Starphuchers had Grunwald exec of the year and Shump as ROY after how many games?

Get a grip guys. Give it time.

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