Knicks · GameThread: Melo is sad and that ain' no pun, the dude wants some happy time and have "fun" in the Sun! (page 19)

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/18/2012 10:05 PM
Tripuka on Knicks switching: "interesting philosophy, I gotta give it to them for being consistent"
KNICKSBIGCATS @ 1/18/2012 10:05 PM
Horrific loss; I am totally disgusted with this team
to the point where I can't watch it anymore.
martin @ 1/18/2012 10:07 PM
matt wrote:
martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.

We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.

And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.

WTF

The simplest picks, the knicks always switch. And it's bad. Every single time fields or shumpert ended up guarding the big and it's just retarded

I know, it's awful. I recall the first few games of the season Shump fought hard to get thru picks, no they just auto-switch, unnecessarily some times. No fucking clue why.

GustavBahler @ 1/18/2012 10:07 PM
AnubisADL wrote:One positive is Shumpert isnt afraid to take the big shots. Dont know whether that's a good or bad thing though.

Its good when Shumpert knows when to pick his moments. He did a better job of it this game, for the most part.

Knicksfan @ 1/18/2012 10:09 PM
martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.

We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.

And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.

WTF

As much as I don;t want to give all the blame to D'Antoni, because he doesn't have it all, and as much as I want them to win now, and oh boy do I want that, I really believe this team needs a new coaching staff. Switching, for example, has been here since MDA arrived. Woodson came in with the same idea. It won't change under this staff. And thats just one of the many issues that can be attributed to coaching.

gunsnewing @ 1/18/2012 10:09 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Shump giveth and Shump taketh.

LOL at Melo and Amare going 10 for 40+.

How did he taketh? last shot was gonna be a prayer anyways.

My exact thoughts. Game would've been long over if it wasn't for Shumpert. I wanna know who's philosophy is it to switch on every play?! If its Woodson he needs to go. It's like the coaches are sabotaging the team to prove a point!

GodSaveTheKnicks @ 1/18/2012 10:10 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Tripuka on Knicks switching: "interesting philosophy, I gotta give it to them for being consistent"

It would work if we replaced Amare and Melo with...Lamar Odom and Shaun Marion

gunsnewing @ 1/18/2012 10:10 PM
bright side a few more losses like this and we will have a new coaching staff
martin @ 1/18/2012 10:10 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.

We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.

And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.

WTF

As much as I don;t want to give all the blame to D'Antoni, because he doesn't have it all, and as much as I want them to win now, and oh boy do I want that, I really believe this team needs a new coaching staff. Switching, for example, has been here since MDA arrived. Woodson came in with the same idea. It won't change under this staff. And thats just one of the many issues that can be attributed to coaching.

I literally can't believe that Woodson would implement a dumb-ass switching defense. Gotta be MDA. And it absolutely sucks.

GodSaveTheKnicks @ 1/18/2012 10:10 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Tripuka on Knicks switching: "interesting philosophy, I gotta give it to them for being consistent"

oh and Lebron for Fields

GoNyGoNyGo @ 1/18/2012 10:10 PM
time to get rid of all of the coach's. Bring in a new staff that is not even working right now. This concept is garbage.
Knicksfan @ 1/18/2012 10:11 PM
knickslions wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Long season guys, 48 more games...the first 20, was expected to be rough

The schedule was a piece of cake so far. Its going to get worse

I don;t know if I should laugh or cry about that. Its scary how truth that is. We have lost so many winnable games, that when we get our act together, we might still lose a lot. Man...

JCrusher @ 1/18/2012 10:11 PM
Ya i hate the guys on MSG they never speak the truth. The guys on SNY are great because they are not a afraid to rip the jets when they play like garbage
gunsnewing @ 1/18/2012 10:12 PM
martin wrote:

I literally can't believe that Woodson would implement a dumb-ass switching defense. Gotta be MDA. And it absolutely sucks.

Honestly I think you are right and thats why I feel he is sabotaging the defense because he is not happen Woodson was pushed on him in order to get him to change his philosophy

FoeDiddy @ 1/18/2012 10:13 PM
matt wrote:
martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.

We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.

And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.

WTF

The simplest picks, the knicks always switch. And it's bad. Every single time fields or shumpert ended up guarding the big and it's just retarded

And thing is I remember Shump fighting over those in beginning of season and now he just easily defers to the switch. Just picking up bad habits in this scheme.

It's just mind boggling how game to game we don't do anything different offensively or defensively.

GustavBahler @ 1/18/2012 10:13 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Last year Walker was coming off the bench and hitting 2-3 3s in a row, Shawne Williams too. I hope they give Novak some burn. If the 3 point game is going to be an important part of the offense it would be nice to have more players on the floor who can make them.

They were too busy playing Toney Douglas and letting this game get out of reach

Walker hasn't been money from 3 this year but thats no excuse to play TD as much as he has. Its like when Q was the starter when he was arguably the worst starting SG in the league. Did Bibby piss in D'Antoni's cheerios? He got 5 minutes and had one assist and one steal, give the man some PT! Davis will be playing soon so he can rest him after Davis is in the lineup. They move the ball better with Bibby on the floor as well.

gunsnewing @ 1/18/2012 10:13 PM
JCrusher wrote:Ya i hate the guys on MSG they never speak the truth. The guys on SNY are great because they are not a afraid to rip the jets when they play like garbage

So true love SNY

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/18/2012 10:14 PM
JCrusher wrote:Ya i hate the guys on MSG they never speak the truth. The guys on SNY are great because they are not a afraid to rip the jets when they play like garbage

Because Dolan probably has some knife at their throats if they're out of line.

matt @ 1/18/2012 10:14 PM
gunsnewing wrote:bright side a few more losses like this and we will have a new coaching staff

GustavBahler @ 1/18/2012 10:15 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
JCrusher wrote:Ya i hate the guys on MSG they never speak the truth. The guys on SNY are great because they are not a afraid to rip the jets when they play like garbage

Because Dolan probably has some knife at their throats if they're out of line.

Thats why Marv Albert left.

Knicksfan @ 1/18/2012 10:15 PM
martin wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.

We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.

And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.

WTF

As much as I don;t want to give all the blame to D'Antoni, because he doesn't have it all, and as much as I want them to win now, and oh boy do I want that, I really believe this team needs a new coaching staff. Switching, for example, has been here since MDA arrived. Woodson came in with the same idea. It won't change under this staff. And thats just one of the many issues that can be attributed to coaching.

I literally can't believe that Woodson would implement a dumb-ass switching defense. Gotta be MDA. And it absolutely sucks.

Unfortunately Woodson used the same strategy in Atlanta and when talking about what he would bring to the team in an article before the season started, he mentioned the switching would stick. I know it sounds retarded, but switching may be a common logic between them. The fact that it remains after it evidently shows it doesn't work, is really scary.

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