martin wrote:Knicksfan wrote:martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.
And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.
WTF
As much as I don;t want to give all the blame to D'Antoni, because he doesn't have it all, and as much as I want them to win now, and oh boy do I want that, I really believe this team needs a new coaching staff. Switching, for example, has been here since MDA arrived. Woodson came in with the same idea. It won't change under this staff. And thats just one of the many issues that can be attributed to coaching.
I literally can't believe that Woodson would implement a dumb-ass switching defense. Gotta be MDA. And it absolutely sucks.
Unfortunately Woodson used the same strategy in Atlanta and when talking about what he would bring to the team in an article before the season started, he mentioned the switching would stick. I know it sounds retarded, but switching may be a common logic between them. The fact that it remains after it evidently shows it doesn't work, is really scary.
matt wrote:gunsnewing wrote:bright side a few more losses like this and we will have a new coaching staff
They interviewed Weber at the half and pretty much admitted that switching was apart of the game plan. This swithing defense is an elementary school basketball philosphy. We made Lopea look like Wilt in the paint toady. And easy was it for Nash to shoot over a retreating Chandler or skate around Amare who got too close? Assinine game plan
whats scary is that we have had a easy schedule. I mean we had teams whose best players were out and didn't take advantage. I mean wait until we start playing the really good teams that is gonna be fun lol
Pretty disappointing. This streaming sh@t is hardly worth it if their going to play like this. I lost the stream three times including twice in the fourth quarter. The postgame analysis about Nash coming is annoying. I am fine with Nash coming but I am so done with the coach and all the efforts to make his 'system' work.
GustavBahler wrote:MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:JCrusher wrote:Ya i hate the guys on MSG they never speak the truth. The guys on SNY are great because they are not a afraid to rip the jets when they play like garbage
Because Dolan probably has some knife at their throats if they're out of line.
Thats why Marv Albert left.
End of the day..all these loses even with switching we win if our two Stars Show up every night. Amare and Melo need to get their acts together quick. Stars don't have consistent bad shooting nights like this. They are not missing contested shots either.
You hold the Suns to 90 pts and still lose. You can't really ask more from your defense.
Glad to see everyone coming around to the idea that the coaching a major part of the problem and most likely the root of the problem. Now a few more losses like these and even Dolan will get onboard
JCrusher wrote:whats scary is that we have had a easy schedule. I mean we had teams whose best players were out and didn't take advantage. I mean wait until we start playing the really good teams that is gonna be fun lol
This place may be a desert by that point.
Knicksfan wrote:martin wrote:Knicksfan wrote:martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.
And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.
WTF
As much as I don;t want to give all the blame to D'Antoni, because he doesn't have it all, and as much as I want them to win now, and oh boy do I want that, I really believe this team needs a new coaching staff. Switching, for example, has been here since MDA arrived. Woodson came in with the same idea. It won't change under this staff. And thats just one of the many issues that can be attributed to coaching.
I literally can't believe that Woodson would implement a dumb-ass switching defense. Gotta be MDA. And it absolutely sucks.
Unfortunately Woodson used the same strategy in Atlanta and when talking about what he would bring to the team in an article before the season started, he mentioned the switching would stick. I know it sounds retarded, but switching may be a common logic between them. The fact that it remains after it evidently shows it doesn't work, is really scary.
I agree, scary and depressing.
gunsnewing wrote:Glad to see everyone coming around to the idea that the coaching a major part of the problem and most likely the root of the problem. Now a few more losses like these and even Dolan will get onboard
Yea but coaching wasn't a problem before Carmelo came.
CrushAlot wrote:Pretty disappointing. This streaming sh@t is hardly worth it if their going to play like this. I lost the stream three times including twice in the fourth quarter. The postgame analysis about Nash coming is annoying. I am fine with Nash coming but I am so done with the coach and all the efforts to make his 'system' work.
I think people forget that last year we were a very good offensive team so the system does work when the right players which we had are in it. The only weakness we had was defense and no center. I thought we had corrected that but it seems like we are worse on defense and our offense which was once very good is horrible
Nets even beat Golden State
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Glad to see everyone coming around to the idea that the coaching a major part of the problem and most likely the root of the problem. Now a few more losses like these and even Dolan will get onboard
Yea but coaching wasn't a problem before Carmelo came.
it is a problem now because the philosophies don't fit the players imo
Melo 5-22
Stat 7-22
With a team as shallow as this, you need both your top players producing.
gunsnewing wrote:MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Glad to see everyone coming around to the idea that the coaching a major part of the problem and most likely the root of the problem. Now a few more losses like these and even Dolan will get onboard
Yea but coaching wasn't a problem before Carmelo came.
it is a problem now because the philosophies don't fit the players imo
I agree that there is a bad fit now. What can I say? Melo never won 60 games, D'Antoni has, twice.
Knicksfan wrote:martin wrote:Knicksfan wrote:martin wrote:only caught second half, but every time I look up Fields has a WIDE OPEN corner 3 and everyone knows he is going to clank it.We already know Melo and Amare have given up playing defense.
And teams know that if they even hint at running a PnR, the Knicks will switch and they'll have a C guarded by Shump, Fields or TD.
WTF
As much as I don;t want to give all the blame to D'Antoni, because he doesn't have it all, and as much as I want them to win now, and oh boy do I want that, I really believe this team needs a new coaching staff. Switching, for example, has been here since MDA arrived. Woodson came in with the same idea. It won't change under this staff. And thats just one of the many issues that can be attributed to coaching.
I literally can't believe that Woodson would implement a dumb-ass switching defense. Gotta be MDA. And it absolutely sucks.
Unfortunately Woodson used the same strategy in Atlanta and when talking about what he would bring to the team in an article before the season started, he mentioned the switching would stick. I know it sounds retarded, but switching may be a common logic between them. The fact that it remains after it evidently shows it doesn't work, is really scary.
oh wow, thanks for info
FoeDiddy wrote:End of the day..all these loses even with switching we win if our two Stars Show up every night. Amare and Melo need to get their acts together quick. Stars don't have consistent bad shooting nights like this. They are not missing contested shots either. You hold the Suns to 90 pts and still lose. You can't really ask more from your defense.
true
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:gunsnewing wrote:MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Glad to see everyone coming around to the idea that the coaching a major part of the problem and most likely the root of the problem. Now a few more losses like these and even Dolan will get onboard
Yea but coaching wasn't a problem before Carmelo came.
it is a problem now because the philosophies don't fit the players imo
I agree that there is a bad fit now. What can I say? Melo never won 60 games, D'Antoni has, twice.
I would argue Melo never played with a PG like Nash. I like MDA but he is not the coach to get us deep in the playoffs every year
i just find it funny. let's rewind the clock back to last year post-trade. knicks are playing well (sans fields) melo and amear are playing well together and the knicks are scoring plenty of points. what's missing between now and then? chauncey billups. is not having billups the reason we're losing right now? no, but it's the fact that we don't have a facilitator that's killing us.
it really isn't that complicated.
The problem is that our two stars are one dimensional players. And the one thing they are suppose to do weel hasn't been happening on a consistent basis which means that we are gonna struggle every game
