Knicks · Amare, to his teammates: "You gotta start using your brain." (page 1)

eViL @ 1/19/2012 11:01 PM
http://www.msg.com/knicks-post-practice-...

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On how the team is going to get it on track offensively:

"You gotta become students. You gotta start using your brain."

Childs2Dudley @ 1/19/2012 11:03 PM
Laughable statement.

Why is he demanding they do things he doesn't? He doesn't use his brain on the court. He's a pretty low IQ player on the court. Insulting his teammates when he is probably worse will not win him many points or inspire confidence.

We need a better leader for this team.

eViL @ 1/19/2012 11:25 PM
yeah, he's in a tough spot to be talking.

interesting comment though, huh? wonder if it's directed at anyone in particular.

Allanfan20 @ 1/19/2012 11:31 PM
colombian0725 @ 1/20/2012 4:06 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Laughable statement.

Why is he demanding they do things he doesn't? He doesn't use his brain on the court. He's a pretty low IQ player on the court. Insulting his teammates when he is probably worse will not win him many points or inspire confidence.

We need a better leader for this team.

lol yeah man. Coming from the guy who drives baseline directly under the basket. Help his man play defense by using the backboard to create a more difficult shot. Which most of the time ends up being a turn over.

joec32033 @ 1/20/2012 5:42 AM
Potshots aside, don't you think he was just implying that he should get the ball more and its stupid to basically be an all Melo offense? Kinda like, you know, rethink the strategy here, boys.
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/20/2012 6:44 AM
If anyone will call the teammates out, it can be the Big Honcho.
sealy @ 1/20/2012 9:18 AM
haha, I love Amar'e, but he needs to scale it back into mute mode. Is his buddy Bogut playing tonight?

He and Jennings tend to look like 1st team NBAers when they come here.

colombian0725 @ 1/20/2012 9:42 AM
The big Honcho who takes it baseline and limits him self by going under the back board. He limits his shots opportunity and it becomes much harder to pass to your teammates. His lack of commitment on the boards and position defense. I think he needs to lead by example before he calls his teammates out.
Andrew @ 1/20/2012 9:47 AM
Amare wasn't calling anyone out. We don't even get to hear the question asked of him. If the question was "How does the team get better offensively with little to no practice time?" then his answer is quite different than what you may initially think.
smackeddog @ 1/20/2012 11:12 AM
I liked that for the second day running, Amar'e made a point of complementing Landry Fields game vs the suns- he knows they need to boost his confidence.
s3231 @ 1/20/2012 11:21 AM
Landry has impressed me over the past few games. His shot is still off and he can't hit a 3, but he has made so many big plays that have given us some momentum (e.g. key defensive plays, alley-oop to Tyson in 4th quarter of Suns game).

He's just such a smart player and he makes so many plays that don't show up in the box score. Once/if his shot gets going, he will look even better.

smackeddog @ 1/20/2012 11:33 AM
s3231 wrote:Landry has impressed me over the past few games. His shot is still off and he can't hit a 3, but he has made so many big plays that have given us some momentum (e.g. key defensive plays, alley-oop to Tyson in 4th quarter of Suns game).

He's just such a smart player and he makes so many plays that don't show up in the box score. Once/if his shot gets going, he will look even better.

The irony is, that the two things he said he focused on during the offseason were his mental approach confidence and his 3pt shooting! Both him and Amar'e look like they've shed a little bit of the extra bulk they put on in the offseason, hopefully that will help them out a bit. Also I don't think it's a coincidence that the three players that bulked up the most this offseason (TD, Amar'e, Fields) all lost their shooting strokes.

KNICKSBIGCATS @ 1/20/2012 11:49 AM
Message to Amare:
"You gotta start playing like a PF and not a SF. Stop putting your head down and trying to drive to the basket while running over defensive players in the process. You're not a player who should be dribbling in traffic, and you're being whistled for way too many offense fouls. You're not an ISO player...although you've become one this year out of frustration. Instead, look for high percentage shots. If you don't have an open look, pass the ball. Use your good midrange J when you can't get inside, but forget the idea of becoming a three point shooter. Move without the ball and set picks for your teammates. If all else fails, help your team by boxing out and actually Deeing up on your man...or, if you don't like those big apples, you can request a trade."
gunsnewing @ 1/20/2012 11:51 AM
Who's he talking about TD, Melo or himself?
RonRon @ 1/20/2012 12:00 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Who's he talking about TD, Melo or himself?

I am pretty sure he is talking about Melo

KNICKSBIGCATS @ 1/20/2012 12:42 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Who's he talking about TD, Melo or himself?

He's just being a company man blurting out the words
while being clueless himself as to how to carry them out.

technomaster @ 1/20/2012 2:01 PM
Bleh. D'Antoni needs to stop worrying about the pick & roll with Chandler - and make the combination Carmelo and Amar'e. More of a mismatch for opponents. (Chandler can deal with few touches in the paint - a scorer like Amare needs his easy points near the hoop to set up his outside shot... and his drives)
martin @ 1/20/2012 2:04 PM
technomaster wrote:Bleh. D'Antoni needs to stop worrying about the pick & roll with Chandler - and make the combination Carmelo and Amar'e. More of a mismatch for opponents. (Chandler can deal with few touches in the paint - a scorer like Amare needs his easy points near the hoop to set up his outside shot... and his drives)

it has to do with what the defense can do when Chandler is NOT part of the PnR. If he is not, where does he play? If Chandler floats to the 3 point line, his defender, another C, would just drop to near the rim, clogging the middle and negating some of the effectiveness of PnR.

Bonn1997 @ 1/20/2012 2:46 PM
joec32033 wrote:Potshots aside, don't you think he was just implying that he should get the ball more and its stupid to basically be an all Melo offense? Kinda like, you know, rethink the strategy here, boys.

He's getting 16 shots a game. How many more does he need?
RonRon @ 1/20/2012 3:31 PM
martin wrote:
technomaster wrote:Bleh. D'Antoni needs to stop worrying about the pick & roll with Chandler - and make the combination Carmelo and Amar'e. More of a mismatch for opponents. (Chandler can deal with few touches in the paint - a scorer like Amare needs his easy points near the hoop to set up his outside shot... and his drives)

it has to do with what the defense can do when Chandler is NOT part of the PnR. If he is not, where does he play? If Chandler floats to the 3 point line, his defender, another C, would just drop to near the rim, clogging the middle and negating some of the effectiveness of PnR.

Yep, Chandler makes much more sense if all 3 players are in together. If not the Center, will be camping in the paint to help all penetration, thus making the PnR
ineffective. A PF can also defend Melo, on the switch much better than a Center can. While a SF has no chance guarding Chandler once he rolls.
Amare was effective last year, because the center was guarding him, which he can use the mismatch on.
Also we would could have at least 3 to possible 4 shooters on the floor to space the floor with, forcing a 1v1 mismatch or a wide open shot.

Its all a triangle right now, its not 1 player, and the figure pointing is all going to cause even more trust, confidence, and bad chemistry issues.

Tyson Chandler and Iman greatly improves our defense.
Tyson Chandler inability to post up, shoot, and our lack of shooters to spread the floor takes away from Amare's game.

Amare's inability to defend is taking away Tyson Chandler's ability to constantly worry about shot blocking, leaving his man for help, and rebounding position.
Amare's inability to post up his man, fails to get good shots going inside out for the rest of our players.

Melo constantly trying to go 1v1, instead of earning a step for the team, not allowing the ball the move, and willingness to take bad shots is hurting our chemistry
and playing right in to our opponents defense.
Melos ability to go 1v1 is taking away Dantoni's philosophy to take good shots and ball movement.
Melo constantly having to play come out to play point/forward is taking his ability to post up consistently.
Melo not having the multiple players that can spread the floor, is causing the defense to be able to pack it in the paint.

The rest of the team

unable to create their own shot, not being to spread the floor, and not cutting and moving the ball constantly takes away from Melo's ability to go penetrate, drawing extra defenders in the paint.

Iman needs players to move and not be stationary, its not effective, because we currently aren't hitting the 3's but continue to stand there.
If you watch them play, players without the ball, stay stationary, while they can't create their own shot, the defenders stay in a distance where they can possibly cheat and come back just in time to get a hand in their face to not shoot.
Iman should be our 6th man to come in to give us the scoring needed off the bench but he is needed in the starting lineup to defend the PG cause Bibby/TD
invite a penetration that breaks down our defense and puts Tyson Chandler in a bad situation to pick his poison.

The Bench

Outside of Jorts and JJ, no one is producing for us and neither is a scorer but points are needed while our starters rest.
We constantly fall back and can't score any points, leaving Dantoni to limit the rest of the starters, and the fatigue is now kicking in.

For the players that do not play, they are 1 dimensional players that would either give us scoring or defense.
With Tyson Chandler and JJ not being scoring threats, its kind of hard to put another player that doesn't score in.
With exception to Lin, we don't know what he can do, but he is a player that seems like he can penetrate with speed/quickness, and break the defense down.
But we will not know, as Dantoni just doesn't trust certain players but prays TD, Bibby, Fields, and Jorts will be able to hit 3's.

It comes down to, our players and lineups having holes, and our players cancel out the skills of another player.
Simply put, we they do not mesh. We need more talent but are unable to acquire the talent needed, unless we pray someone comes to play for us
at a discount. If we continue to lose, we will need a scape goat, it will most likely be Dantoni, because we can't afford to make trades because our players
wouldn't get good value while playing bad. So probably just fire him, while praying that he is the reason why we sucked. His inability to maximize the strength and hide the weakness of the teams potential with the roster. Hoping that will bring a sudden surge of desperation and confidence back to perform...

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