I vote yes. I think he fixes the offense by:
A) getting Melo, Amar'e and Tyson (and Landry) easy baskets
B) adding an outside shooter
C) adding another scorer
D) adding someone who can penetrate the paint.
and I believe his contributions on the offense will make life much easier on the defense.
This isn't asking Baron to be a savior. It's asking him to be a leader (Which he's done in CHA, GSW, LAC and CLE) and asking him to run the offense. It's not asking him to be the player he was in 2007. It's asking him to be the play he was in 2011 with Cleveland (18ppg 8apg, great leadership and passing).
I say yes because this team has been playing so poorly the only way they can go is up. They are scraping the bottom right now. Turning it around at this point is making the playoffs, things are so bad.
crzymdups wrote: It's not asking him to be the player he was in 2007. It's asking him to be the play he was in 2011 with Cleveland (18ppg 8apg, great leadership and passing).
+1
inst there a big IF -- IF he is healthy. i said no, cuz im not sure he is gonna be well enough in a short season. will they make him drop 30+ mins a game right away? will he have to play 15-20 for a bit to get in game shape? can he take some bumps, and survive 3 games in 3 nights or have to miss a few games?
i find it interesting that most of the people who voted "no" are afraid to put their name on it.
I think Baron running the point is going to be huge. Can't wait.
I say yes - only because it's sooo clear that proven veteran leadership in the backcourt positions is extremely lacking. I'd certainly argue that we probably would have been a much better team had we kept Anthony Carter instead of grabbing Bibby!
(I can't explain what's happened to Bibby over the last couple of years - he was a key acquisition by the Hawks and they dumped him prior to him landing with the Knicks)
The Knicks are going through a rough stretch with nagging injuries rearing their heads, so they probably look worse than what they're capable of. Baron Davis will bring veteran guard play and teach the Knicks guards how to win. (NONE of our young guards came from big winning college programs, at least not the years they came out - so while they may have a lot of the tangible skills, they don't have the nuances of what it's like to win consistently)
I'm sorry, but if Melo and Stat can't turn this around, its just stupid to expect a player who is in the twilight of his career to turn things around.
That's just common sense.
That's like asking Udonis Haslem to turn things around for Miami during a 5 game skid.
Sure he will. He is a PG.
Can't wait to see him in a Knicks uni running the show. We'll get to see at least 4 less Douglas TOs per game.
It depends what turn around really means. When he comes back I do believe the Bucks and Suns will be no match for us. Can we hang with Miami? No.
I worry about his minutes. D'Antoni tends to rely heavily on guys and wears them down. He is going to need to be careful with Baron.
nykshaknbake wrote:It depends what turn around really means. When he comes back I do believe the Bucks and Suns will be no match for us. Can we hang with Miami? No.
i guess i mean, i think they'd be 10-6 right now instead of 6-10. at least.
Too much weight on his ailing back. If its him and another solid PG, I could see us turning this season around. But Baron alone? Nope
Nothing will get better until we lift the voodoo curse.
crzymdups wrote:i find it interesting that most of the people who voted "no" are afraid to put their name on it.
ditto that.
nyk4ever wrote:crzymdups wrote:i find it interesting that most of the people who voted "no" are afraid to put their name on it.
ditto that.
Them's figtin' words.
We don't need a point guard, we need a witch doctor.
Don't matter what anyone thinks.
It all on the court.
i think he can be good but 2-3 players will have to step up to hit the wide open shot.
With the bad back he will still be our 2nd best only post player after Melo.
We never watched Baron go downhill yet but his words saying he didn't think he would be able to play again, make it sound bad.
He actually looked like he was still pretty good last year, especially against us.
Childs2Dudley wrote:No.
I think Barron will only hide the big issue....Melo is starting to become a cancer for this team. He wants to be like Kobe or Jordan, and that mentality is killing the offense. Don't be fooled by the tough shots and clutch performance. Until we get a veteran coach thats not afraid to pull Melo out the game, we will always be 1 Melo ISO away from a 1st round exit. He might even carry us to a 2nd round. But unless Magic Johnson is running the point....I don't see Dantoni and Melo winning anything together.
But unless we bring in a well respected coach with some balls, who knows how to coach ego type superstars, or a HOF point guard who can actually be a floor coach during the games....we will be no better than a second round side show, that will continue to keep the NBA media in business.
Mike's offense is simple....Shoot when open, and keep the ball and body moving. Do you think Melo is moving the ball? It's obvious he's doing his own thing. The problem is I only see one coach that can coach Melo right now, and thats Phil. Meanwhile, Barron will be able to cover up those coaching issues for the rest of the season....But Melo's 1 on 1 strategy will come out again in close games / playoffs, and we will continue to be inconsistent.
After 9 yrs in the NBA, he still doesn't make his teammates better! Stat with 1 shot attempt after the 3rd quarter? With a game that went in double overtime? A player who was MVP type last season? Wow....
