Knicks · When is the trade deadline ? for getting Toney Douglass the Hell Of the Knickerbockers (page 2)

misterearl @ 2/4/2012 10:53 AM
holfresh wrote:TD can help us but not at PG...He can be the guy who knocks down the open three...Dont ask TD to make decisions for you and he will be ok...TD is a 15 mins off the bench off the ball shooter...We need that...He sucks at PG but we have no choice right now...

Unfortunately, Douglas' 25 per cent from three point rane is not a typo. Sheesh.

RonRon @ 2/4/2012 11:15 AM
TD is unable to facilitate, consistently penetrate the paint, set up the offense for good shots, and even stay in front of his man, defensively.
He is capable of hitting the 3point shot, but with no other player able to penetrate and no post presence, he doesn't get to square up and get a good looking shot majority of the time
I can't see us getting any good value with TD the way we have been playing as a team and the way he has shown his inability at PG.
He is much closer to a SG than PG, but often shoots a bad shot because he is not able to create a better look majority of the times throughout the year.
I can't imagine TD getting any good value for a player that is currently producing on their teams.
TD needs a point/forward or a SG able to facilitate, he can be a deadly player if his team is able to hide is weakness/flaws to his game.
He does not make good decisions and is unable to create, period. Yet he constantly gets the role of PG and our opponents defenses' have exploited him the whole year.

With that said, I would rather keep him unless we can trade him for a player that fills one of our holes. Only teams that are looking to possibly save money that are under the cap
would take a shot on him. If he is with the right team, with a post presence, shooters that spread the floor, and with players able to take the facilitating role away from him, TD can be a serviceable player. But he is not a PG and he should no longer get that role on this team.

misterearl @ 2/4/2012 11:21 AM
RonRon wrote:TD can be a serviceable player.

RonRon - serviceable is another word for "not good enough"

Serviceable equals functional which equals mediocre in the NBA.

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN @ 2/4/2012 12:28 PM
If TD is worthless to trade, and we can't cut him, he should be sent to the D-League. Let him get his act together playing for Erie, while it frees up a roster spot for us to get JR Smith, etc. and allows us to retain Lin.
earthmansurfer @ 2/4/2012 12:58 PM
TD must be hurt. I mean he was a really good SG for a while then that shoulder injury happened and here he STILL is (sucking). He has no value now. The most we can hope to do is have him heal to raise his value. Cutting him is kind of stupid as he was a good player and something must have caused his downturn. I don't think it's a mental thing, but who knows?
Bonn1997 @ 2/4/2012 1:06 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:TD must be hurt. I mean he was a really good SG for a while then that shoulder injury happened and here he STILL is (sucking). He has no value now. The most we can hope to do is have him heal to raise his value. Cutting him is kind of stupid as he was a good player and something must have caused his downturn. I don't think it's a mental thing, but who knows?

I agree. He used to be a MUCH better player.
knicks1248 @ 2/4/2012 1:12 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:I want to get rid of the whole team by the trading deadline, besides Shumpert and Fields and Harrelson.

shrump has been eratic as expected, he's playing to many minutes, and has no idea what to do during crunch time, as fas as pg skills..In fact he's the damn worse..

Mike played TD 8 mins in the 2nd half, when he got on the flr, there went the lead..It's obvious that he's the guy then needs more then a few games off..He's not defending, he's not shooting with an ounce of confidence, he's not setting up nobody, not even his self..

At this point he cant even make a layup with a latter in a emtpy gym..

He has no periphial vision, which is why he can't pass, and runs in to screeners like a brick wall, and ends up on the floor, this dude has like a JHS IQ..he sucks so bad..

mack23quick @ 2/4/2012 1:34 PM

Is J.R. Smith's intended destination Broadway?

http://www.thewindyapple.com/2012/02/04/...

Bonn1997 @ 2/4/2012 1:44 PM
mack23quick wrote:

Is J.R. Smith's intended destination Broadway?

http://www.thewindyapple.com/2012/02/04/...


I'm having trouble finding your website. Can you post some links? Maybe 10 or 12 more.
matt @ 2/4/2012 2:07 PM
I'm also having trouble finding any actual information in the articles
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