Knicks · Starphuch expectatons...... (page 1)

Sunday could see the return of Melo and the introducton of JR Smith.

We could be riding an 8 game streak then and the garden will be buzzing with celebs and filled with expectations.

Melo is under so much pressure to "not screw it up!" dude knows whats going on. KNicks traded half the team to get him, its not been a good fit thus far, he sits and the team wins 7 without him. That's got to be phucking with him. He is human.

The whole world will be watching. The president of the united states, the next president of China, a billion or so in Asia, Jesus Christ and his father "God" will also be watching.

As will the lovers and haters.

I hope Melo just lets the game come to him and of course "Winning" will be the best result despite his performance. He will be a bit rusty and has to be way jacked up for this event.

If he goes for 40 and team loses, he loses. He goe for 10 and we win, its more than ok.

He is in a tough spot because he can't over do it and not shoot. Melo is who he is and he should not entirely change to please others. He has to make his coach happy. Nobody knows but the team what the expectations are and what the game plan is.

I saw something hin Charlote. He was 0-7 and was not pressing but rebounding and passing once he realized the team was in control and he contributed anyway he could. He was banged up. He had like 11 rebounds and only played like 25 minutes while playing "point".

This is a work in progress and I for one don't expect we go undefeated nor we going to blow out teams nite after nite. The talent is here now but we have a long way to work on chemistry.

If you change the compounds (players) you get different chemistry. Everything is different now.

Don't forget to Enjoy the games!

Sunday could see the return of Melo and the introduction of JR Smith.

Nalod - Speaking of introductions, if I ruled the world I would tell Madison Square Garden Public Address announcer Mike Walczewski to chill. Especially in the first quarter. He would be wise to tone down the over-the-top treatment for Carmelo when he scores. The message is implied that every time Carmelo scores an angel gets its wings. That is not the message we need.

John Condon had it right, especially early in games. A polite, "that was Carmelo Anthony" is perfectly tasteful.

Same with everyone else.

Linsanity trumps the need for any artificial hyperbole or "game show host" treatment from our home announcers. The special sound effects are drowned out by the excitement of the crowd. Let the people who paid to watch do the work of filling the Garden with noise. No prompts needed.

Mortimer, we are back!

misterearl wrote:Sunday could see the return of Melo and the introduction of JR Smith.

Nalod - Speaking of introductions, if I ruled the world I would tell Madison Square Garden Public Address announcer Mike Walczewski to chill. Especially in the first quarter. He would be wise to tone down the over-the-top treatment for Carmelo when he scores. The message is implied that every time Carmelo scores an angel gets its wings. That is not the message we need.

John Condon had it right, especially early in games. A polite, "that was Carmelo Anthony" is perfectly tasteful.

Same with everyone else.

Linsanity trumps the need for any artificial hyperbole or "game show host" treatment from our home announcers. The special sound effects are drowned out by the excitement of the crowd. Let the people who paid to watch do the work of filling the Garden with noise. No prompts needed.

Mortimer, we are back!

Misterearl, that's Mike Ws job. I think he should stop overemphasizing the NY accent when he says some of the names, but it's his job to go crazy everytime one of the more prominent players score.

Allanfan20 wrote:...it's his job to go crazy everytime one of the more prominent players score.

Disagree Allanfan, it is the F A N S job to go crazy. The PA man is simply to identify the name in the context and flow of the game. If something extraordinary happens, the PA dude can go crazy.

Everything does NOT have to be given over-the-top treatment.

Earl, your right. But lets be real, "Dancing Harry" just won't cut it anymore. The opeing laser show and pyrotechnics is needed to move an exhausted group of over worked stressed out business execs and turn them into a wrestling frenzy crowd who need to leave the arena fulfilled and wanting more.

Starphuching is not just roster hype, its the whole entertainment experience not just at MSG, but in lots of places.

NY fan expectations are usually based on "we deserve this!".

IN the lines of "FIre MDA if we don't reach the ECF THIS YEAR" "He had 4 years to do it and DON'T TELL ME ABOUT ROSTER CHANGES OR ANYTING ELSE! I EXPECTED BETTER!"

Best fans in the world! Mostly, but to label ones self as "best fans in the world" is another thing entirely!

For Knick fans, they play in "the worlds most famous arena!" Why is that? Because there has been about 4 different MSG's over the years and NYC is the biggest city in the country? I get it. College hoops peaked in the 1950's, Knicks not relevent historically since 1974, Rangers 1 cup in 60 years and what else? Great rock concerts and Political party conventions?

Boston Garden had the banners. Yankee stadium has the banners, and Montreal Forum had the banner. Those places are famous for "Winning". Cathedrals of sporting history made.

Sports wise, MSG is famous for overhyped teams.

Sunday will be a big game and the world will be watching and if less than a rousing success, it will pick it a part!

Big game but really nothing is on the line yet. Good things don't happen until May and June!

Nalod wrote:
Earl, your right. But lets be real, "Dancing Harry" just won't cut it anymore. The opeing laser show and pyrotechnics is needed to move an exhausted group of over worked stressed out business execs and turn them into a wrestling frenzy crowd who need to leave the arena fulfilled and wanting more.

Starphuching is not just roster hype, its the whole entertainment experience not just at MSG, but in lots of places.

NY fan expectations are usually based on "we deserve this!".

IN the lines of "FIre MDA if we don't reach the ECF THIS YEAR" "He had 4 years to do it and DON'T TELL ME ABOUT ROSTER CHANGES OR ANYTING ELSE! I EXPECTED BETTER!"

Best fans in the world! Mostly, but to label ones self as "best fans in the world" is another thing entirely!

For Knick fans, they play in "the worlds most famous arena!" Why is that? Because there has been about 4 different MSG's over the years and NYC is the biggest city in the country? I get it. College hoops peaked in the 1950's, Knicks not relevent historically since 1974, Rangers 1 cup in 60 years and what else? Great rock concerts and Political party conventions?

Boston Garden had the banners. Yankee stadium has the banners, and Montreal Forum had the banner. Those places are famous for "Winning". Cathedrals of sporting history made.

Sports wise, MSG is famous for overhyped teams.

Sunday will be a big game and the world will be watching and if less than a rousing success, it will pick it a part!

Big game but really nothing is on the line yet. Good things don't happen until May and June!

No love for the MSG Westminster Dog Show? A Pekingese won it! Malachy wants a word with you...

I looked this up out of curiosity. In Melo's last 5 seasons, his teams have gone 27-21 (.563) without him playing and their overall winning percentage has been .604.

The 1st major event of my life outside of the Knicks title was Frazier vs. Ali. That is an iconic event for an arena. Just an unbelievable historic boxing match. So things like that get thrown into the mix of why MSG is so revered as an arena.

Expectations.........

ONe game "are we contenders?"

Next "OMG, this is never gonna work!!!!!!!!! Trend is not your friend and Amare will continue his decline and Melo is never ever never never ever gonna change!!!!!!!"

Reality:

Team is better than crap teams.

Team is talented.

Team needs time. If you there here has been plenty, then your impatient.

If you understand the power of practice then you realize how little some have had.

Some do better than others. Some had big changes and need it more than others.

Davis should get better, Lin hit his FIRST wall. There will be others.

Whats wrong? Expectations of fans!

The Starphuching of Lin will continue so expect much.

I hope MSG does not ruin this kid.

Watch this Jimmy Fallon doing "Jeremy" as Pearl Jam! Great stuff!

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/jimm...

Nalod, Lin and Jr both came in and made magic happen almost instantly.

We're gonna be saying "give time" for how many more years?

I'm at the point where my view is: you either get it or you don't.

GREAT video. I never really liked Jimmy Fallon, but that was outstanding. Go LINSANITY!!

A Full Year

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:We're gonna be saying "give time" for how many more years?

Every time the KNicks change the roster, it takes a full year for the cohesion to take place.

It took Miami a year to establish their identity.

The clock starts on the Knicks after the break. ETA - February 2013.

misterearl wrote:A Full Year

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:We're gonna be saying "give time" for how many more years?

Every time the KNicks change the roster, it takes a full year for the cohesion to take place.

It took Miami a year to establish their identity.

The clock starts on the Knicks after the break. ETA - February 2013.

But by then the Knicks will have made another major transaction and you'll reset the clock again.

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:A Full Year

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:We're gonna be saying "give time" for how many more years?

Every time the KNicks change the roster, it takes a full year for the cohesion to take place.

It took Miami a year to establish their identity.

The clock starts on the Knicks after the break. ETA - February 2013.

But by then the Knicks will have made another major transaction and you'll reset the clock again.

Entertainment is not about stability which is boredom. It is about change.
You need to bring the attention of the crowd period. It does not matter for good or for bad.
Win is a moment and drama is forever. The show must go on!!!

arkrud wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:A Full Year

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:We're gonna be saying "give time" for how many more years?

Every time the KNicks change the roster, it takes a full year for the cohesion to take place.

It took Miami a year to establish their identity.

The clock starts on the Knicks after the break. ETA - February 2013.

But by then the Knicks will have made another major transaction and you'll reset the clock again.

Entertainment is not about stability which is boredom. It is about change.
You need to bring the attention of the crowd period. It does not matter for good or for bad.
Win is a moment and drama is forever. The show must go on!!!

True, but brand identity established from winning is a strong bond. Im not here for the Ewing Era (as are some), Im here because of Willis, CLyde, Earl, Phil. Bill, Dave, Jerry, Dick, Dean, and Nathaniel Hawthorne Wingo!

My son watch's cuz I watched.

Maybe its not a bad thing to win a title every 20 years just to be on the safe side?

misterearl wrote:A Full Year

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:We're gonna be saying "give time" for how many more years?

Every time the KNicks change the roster, it takes a full year for the cohesion to take place.

It took Miami a year to establish their identity.

The clock starts on the Knicks after the break. ETA - February 2013.

Great way for a coach to keep his job. Ask for roster changes every 6 months and then say that you need a full year from the last change!

Damn. that's a good tactic - I think I will try that at work.