Knicks · Wonder if we can somehow grab Hickson or Thompson from Sacremento (page 1)

BRIGGS @ 2/19/2012 11:34 PM
I know we need a back up PG(lets hope Baron Davis can be the guy for 12-14 minutes) we really could use a solid back p PF/C type and I think one of those two guys can be had.
GustavBahler @ 2/19/2012 11:36 PM
Wish we could get Andre Miller but I can't think off the bat what they would take that we can afford to give up.
Hopefully Davis will work out.
martin @ 2/19/2012 11:42 PM
Jorts!
rp @ 2/20/2012 12:27 AM
martin wrote:Jorts!

Next week he is back so we are good.

technomaster @ 2/20/2012 12:37 AM
If the folks in Sacto are on something (Thomas starting over Fredette?!? Wow!)... maybe they can be convinced that Tony Douglas is the second coming of Bobby Jackson... and that they need another Bobby Jackson...

then yes, it'd be nice having a strong, athletic, power big like Hickson.

airchibundo507 @ 2/20/2012 12:42 AM
hickson? do not want.

we need defenders and rebounders. i'm not familiar with thompson's game, though.

nixluva @ 2/20/2012 12:47 AM
Man we're developing Jorts and Jordan, why do we need someone else's PF/C right now? I'm really done with all the change for this season. We've got capable players already here. I really liked how Jorts was coming along.
JCrusher @ 2/20/2012 1:22 AM
Jorts is more than capable. remember jorts was one of the few bright spots before lin
VDesai @ 2/20/2012 3:15 AM
With Jorts and potentially Baron coming into the fold, I think we are set. Between Chandler/Jefferies/Jorts we are gonna get some quality minutes at the center position.

If I am the Knicks I am ready to stand pat. The roster is developing and could be peaking at the right time.

yellowboy90 @ 2/20/2012 3:47 AM
Where would the minutes come from if they get another big when Jorts come back. I think Jorts will be the perfect compliment to STAT because he can stretch the floor on the offense but defend the better post player to hide STAT.
Knicksfan @ 2/20/2012 6:16 AM
The only real change that I think we should make is waive Mike Bibby and sign a healthy PG that can give us 12-15 minutes in case Davis has trouble down the road. Unless the team is confident in Bibby later on, which doesn't show since right now he is available and still doesn't back uo Lin, I think we'd have to do that.

It doesn't have to be a known name, just a healthy guard that has played in a similar sistem (NBDL?).

Other than that, I agree with nixluva that we are set. At backup PF and C we have Jeffries, Novak and Jorts. If needed we also have Jordan, so we are ok here.

babyKnicks @ 2/20/2012 6:59 AM
Jorts and Davis...I would hope we would be done playing fantasy GM this year.
Nalod @ 2/20/2012 9:45 AM

I'd trade Jorts and TD for Hickson in a minute. I get what Briggs is saying which is to grab him and develop him while his stock is down.

Hickson is on a bad team with little leadership on it. He could benefit from what he have. He has AMare type athletic skill.

I would hope TD could restart his career and maybe provide some stability to SAC.

Im not on the Jorts bandwagon. He was a surprise because in our time of need he rose to the occasion and did not screw it up. His long range skill is something we don't really want our 4 to do is it? I think he is not very strong in the paint offensively. He is an awful finisher.

Hickson can be a monster and has the talent.

SupremeCommander @ 2/20/2012 9:52 AM
I never thought I'd ever say this, ever, but I am happy with what the Knicks have
Nalod @ 2/20/2012 9:54 AM
Hickson would be more about developing him. He gives us another athletic MDA type player.
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 2/20/2012 9:56 AM
This is the first time that my brain can remember being content with the team we have.

I don't think we need more players, different players.

This is it.

martin @ 2/20/2012 10:27 AM
Nalod wrote:
I'd trade Jorts and TD for Hickson in a minute. I get what Briggs is saying which is to grab him and develop him while his stock is down.

Hickson is on a bad team with little leadership on it. He could benefit from what he have. He has AMare type athletic skill.

I would hope TD could restart his career and maybe provide some stability to SAC.

Im not on the Jorts bandwagon. He was a surprise because in our time of need he rose to the occasion and did not screw it up. His long range skill is something we don't really want our 4 to do is it? I think he is not very strong in the paint offensively. He is an awful finisher.

Hickson can be a monster and has the talent.

it's exactly what we want out of our 4

Uptown @ 2/20/2012 10:29 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:I never thought I'd ever say this, ever, but I am happy with what the Knicks have

When is the last time we were able to say that? Its been a long time coming.....

Olbrannon @ 2/20/2012 11:34 AM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
I'd trade Jorts and TD for Hickson in a minute. I get what Briggs is saying which is to grab him and develop him while his stock is down.

Hickson is on a bad team with little leadership on it. He could benefit from what he have. He has AMare type athletic skill.

I would hope TD could restart his career and maybe provide some stability to SAC.

Im not on the Jorts bandwagon. He was a surprise because in our time of need he rose to the occasion and did not screw it up. His long range skill is something we don't really want our 4 to do is it? I think he is not very strong in the paint offensively. He is an awful finisher.

Hickson can be a monster and has the talent.

it's exactly what we want out of our 4

I would not count TD out just yet. Lin is a wonderful story and I am just as pleased as any of you. There is not as much pressure on Douglas ATM since Lin's emergence. He needs to get his swag back. The Knicks backcourt is vastly improved but there is a lot of basketball left to play. Still think he has had health issues and looking for his resurgence just as last year after the ALL Star break and the extended rest. My wife is even following Lin "He's so little and he just goes right in among all those bigger guys." But if TD goes rather see him in SA.

GustavBahler @ 2/20/2012 11:39 AM
Uptown wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I never thought I'd ever say this, ever, but I am happy with what the Knicks have

When is the last time we were able to say that? Its been a long time coming.....

Amen to that. And we aren't even at full strength yet. Grunwald is doing a great job building this roster.

RonRon @ 2/20/2012 12:35 PM
Hickson has the lowest value of the two, while they both can really help.
They both have the athleticism, most importantly, the defensive abilities to compliment TC and help relieve some minutes.

There is actually quite a lot of young talent on the Kings, they just don't seem to mesh.
They remind me of a Clippers in the 90s or 2000s, or a recent Wolves till key acquisitions this year.

Hickson will be getting a qualifying offer next year and likely either be extended or traded.
He had a great year last year with the Cavs, when Varaejo went down. He looked like he was going to be a solid PF/C as defensive, hustle player, that will bang, and just work hard with his effort and body.

Thompson looks to finally get it this year, finding a role as a starter at PF or the first BIG off the bench.
He can hit the wide open 12 foot jump shot and just work hard on the boards. His game would compliment TC and help spread the floor better.
However, he has been playing the starting PF, while receiving 20-30+ minutes on the team.

While I totally agree we could use a player of their skill set and caliber, I just cant find a realistic trade to make with Kings 1v1.
I am not sure if we can offer the Kings anything they would actually want or need.
Even if we were wiling to part with our younger players with upside in Iman Shumpert, Fields, Jordan and Jorts.
They have players in all positions already, so they would look to upgrade their talent, and/or acquire more draft picks.
Do we even have draft picks, especially 1st rounders we can trade?
We would probably need a 3rd team to complete a trade.
Memphis is a team that has similar talents in Speights and Cunningham, with Zack Randolph coming back.

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